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May 29, 2019
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Stoneconstruct posted a message on Echo of EonsThis is just Timetwister in the 'yard. And anyone that plays magic well enough, knows that graveyard actually means "Second Library"Posted in: Echo of Eons -
May 23, 2019
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Kenaron316 posted a message on Ayula, Queen Among BearsPosted in: Ayula, Queen Among Bears -
May 21, 2019
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The K1N6 posted a message on Collected ConjuringI remember when Collected Company was released and everyone thought it was bad. This is not CoCo, sorcery speed makes this a very very different situation.Posted in: Collected Conjuring -
May 21, 2019
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DiziDs posted a message on Headless SpecterOr that they wanted one in pauper, seeing as it's already modern legal and sees no play.Posted in: Headless Specter -
May 9, 20181
pierrebai posted a message on [M19] Commons leaked in Dominaria Packaged ProductThey're just testing the waters for a potential loophole in the reserved list. "Honest, we don't know how these Alpha cards got into a M19 booster."Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
May 8, 20189
13055 posted a message on [M19] Commons leaked in Dominaria Packaged ProductPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Manite »I'm holding them accountable for taking pictures of cards that aren't supposed to be out yet and putting them up online, undermining Wizards' product presentation plan.
This is absolutely a ridiculous statement. Consumers are in no way beholden to any secret plans that the producer has. Would you say the same thing about people who played copy cat in standard before it was banned? Wotc said they did not catch the combo, that they would act upon it, yet people continued to play it until it was banned. They were acting against the will of wotc, but I think to claim you hold them accountable for doing something wrong is silly.
The issue here is one of packaging. If there are unreleased cards in a booster, it's 110% the printer's fault. To put any shame or accountability on the person who was cheated out of their Dominaria cards to receive a bunch of unusable cardboard is totally off base.
We live in a digital world. News breaks within minutes. We know about global events as they happen. To imagine something like this happening and not being submitted to the cloud of the internet is absurd and retro-wishful thinking. If the person who opened these decided to not put them online for the same feelings you have, respect or fear of lawsuit or whatever it is, then fine. But buying a booster does not include signing a contract that you agree to abide by any future release plans of wotc.
I get that you understand wotc's point of view, that if you're working on a presentation or project and part of it is leaked or whatever early, that can suck. But unless it was 100% not your fault that your plans were undermined, then you can only blame yourself, or blame the people you trusted to go through with your plan. Short of corporate espionage, there is always burden of blame on the plan-making party. -
May 8, 20183
JaceBluesMaster posted a message on [M19] Commons leaked in Dominaria Packaged ProductPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Manite »Quote from RSSR »Well, I think virtually everyone else but you would have felt comfortable about sharing this leak, especially how these cards weren’t stolen in any kind of way.
Which I've already acknowledged twice. The theft here is one of opportunity rather than property. It's a willful exploitation of circumstance. And I wouldn't assume that "virtually everyone" agrees with my mindset, because experience has taught me that if anything I sadly am in the minority around here regarding my mindset. But I care more about the right mindset than the popular one. And if your claim is true, that means a lot of people around here clearly haven't tried organizing a product presentation or running a business. It's easy to say this is okay when it doesn't hurt you fiscally. Try telling a Wizards employee this is okay.
It is literally not theft in any way. If WotC did not want this to happen (something I am skeptical of) then they need to take this opportunity to chastise their printer and find solutions to prevent these problems from occurring again. The consumer is 100% allowed to take pictures of his legally obtained property and share it on social media. -
May 8, 2018
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Medussa posted a message on [M19] Commons leaked in Dominaria Packaged ProductAs someone who is in game design and wants nothing more than to make the next big thing in gaming: if this happened to me, the only people I'd be angry with are the ones responsible for the cards being packaged. Blaming ones customer base, for most anything, is usually a bad idea. Blaming them for something that they didn't even do? get. out. of. here.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
May 7, 2018
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SavannahLion posted a message on [M19] Commons leaked in Dominaria Packaged ProductPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Manite »Quote from JaceBluesMaster »But these are not "stolen" leaks. These cards were accidentally put into Dominaria boosters, which were purchased by normal consumers (who expected Dominaria cards, not M19 cards).
Okay, so let's say a pack of gum somehow ended up in your pockets by accident. You find the gum by surprise and realize you didn't pay for it. Does that give you the right to keep it without paying for it, just because it was accidental? The people who discovered these cards could have kept them a surprise until the proper time of their reveal. But nope, a moment of internet attention was more important. They paid for the pack, so yes, technically the cards do belong to them, but they could at least have had the decency to contact Wizards first to let them know about the leak so as not to undermine their marketing efforts.
Making Magic sets professionally is hard work. An office full of people have to coordinate to not only design and develop these products, but also to plan marketing, handle production, secure distribution in stores, handle PR, handle international content quality control, handle legality, and manage investments and losses. There is a lot of work involved with running a business, and when that business' profits are affected, everyone in the company is affected. If Wizards loses money, so too do the employees trying to make a living for their families.
And if we tolerate "minor" leaks like these, we open the doors to bigger leaks and encourage such exploitative behavior which will have longterm consequences for the company. Instead of punishing Wizards for an honest mistake, we should be working with them to mitigate the damages caused by such mistakes and quietly bring these things to their attention so they can figure out how to prevent such mistakes in the future.
But hey, what's a comapny and its hundreds of employees' well being compared to prematurely sating the curiosity of a handful of so-called "fans" on an internet forum?
You're really going off on a tangent here. These cards are nowhere close to your "bubblegum" example. Not by a long shot.
Based on what's been established, these aren't cards that were stolen from their facility by an employee. They're not cards stolen from an early shipment. They're not even cards cracked early by unscrupulous shops looking to make more money. They're errant cards inside legitimate packs sent out by WotC. If anything, the person should be upset they didn't get their Dominaria cards.
If you want to continue using this bubblegum analogy, then it's more like someone buying a pack of Bubble Yum and finding a few pieces of next years new, unreleased, flavor inside. That's it. The manufacturer goofed with their sorting and we got a hint of the next flavor. What do you think the consumer is going to do? Send them back? Of course not, they're going to enjoy their 15 minutes of fame. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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Opponent can have something that prevents you from attacking
Opponent can have something that prevents damage from attacking creatures
Opponent can have something that prevents all damage
Opponent can destroy attacking creatures before they can deal damage
Opponent can have something that prevents loss of game from 0 life
And there are far more things that do the above than which would stop that player from losing due to having no deck.
Also, it's useful for self-mill if you're playing Dredge and/or Delve strategy, or reanimator, or anything else that plays out of the graveyard.
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I don't agree with this, and I'll explain why. Counterspell doesn't have a home. It's not good enough to see play in Legacy or Vintage, where instead cards like Force of Will, Mana Drain, Daze, and Mental Misstep rule. This is very sad for one of the defining cards of the entire game. A card that isn't strong enough to see play in Legacy should, I argue, be playable in Modern. And if that isn't the case, then Modern should adjust for that to be true.
Standard already has the unstated rule that hard counters always cost 3 mana. Standard is supposed to be lower power level than Modern. We're basing the notion that Counterspell is too good for Modern simply on the fact that it has never been a part of Modern. I would suggest that when we consider "Is this card too powerful for Modern?" a way of answering that is to consider instead "Had this card been last printed in 8th Edition, would it be on Modern's current ban list?" In the case of Counterspell, I think it is extremely unlikely.
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