Ok so that comment was mostly just an innocent jab but of course matchup lottery is a thing, that's just common sense. If there is a wide array of decks that people play, playing linear decks is a winning strategy. It's not even a complaint; without standard's limited cardpool or legacy and vintage's format warping cards, modern's wideness inherently promotes linear decks and I don't expect any banning, unbanning or new printing to change that
When the linear noninteractive decks then also become the most consistent and powerful strategies, giving little payoff for trying to beat the field, that is where I say modern is going wrong
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Mar 15, 2019Posted in: ModernQuote from cfusionpm »Yeah, thank GOD that deck lost favor at my store. But instead I have to deal with monumental disparity between streamlined tier decks and wacky random brews, or decks way out of favor. Just this last week, I lost a tight round 1 against Eldrazi Taxes (hi RIP and Leyline against GDS), so I go into the loser's bracket and play Bant Pile of Planeswalkers, then Grindstone combo, then Eldrazi Stopmpy. Awesome. Why do I even bother trying to pick my deck or tune my sideboard for anything. Meanwhile, the other half of the room was all Humans, Spirits, and Phoenix.
Man with such a matchup lottery, it almost sounds like you would've been better off playing something extremely linear that can mostly ignore the opponent's gameplan
Mar 15, 2019The issue with running Kiki combo in a low creature count deck is that even against decks with very few interactive spells, they will have stockpiled a removal spell by the time you go off simply because there are no other targets. Another consideration is that getting triple red for kiki also really warps your manabase in a 3 color deck. If you want to win with kiki combo I would recommend the Vannifar Pod decks, from what I've seen they are fairly reasonable in that you win if you untap with Vannifar, and it runs so many creatures that it will overload removal even vs removal heavy decks.Posted in: Control
As for jeskai in general, I wouldn't recommend to play any control deck in modern atm. If you really insist on control, UW Miracles with mainboard rest in peace is reasonable, but still not worth the slog at a big tournament. For me I currently just play Jeskai at FNM because I adore the deck; I've actually been brewing with Nahiri the Harbinger again and it has felt reasonable
Mar 15, 2019I was definitely trying to sell Surgical Extraction mainboard a bit in my post, the card is kind of infamous for being a trap for new players thinking it is amazing to SE Teferi out of a control deck not realizing they just discarded a card for nothing.Posted in: Midrange
That being said, I do actually think that the format is that broken that mainboarding a surgical or two is a real consideration. I'm going to be testing with it a bit.
Mar 14, 2019I'd like to talk about Hieroglyphic Illumination a bit. Lately I've been foregoing conventional cantrips over it and I think I'm sticking with that. I feel that, if you do not get some additional advantage off Serum Vision or Opt (triggering Terminus more reliably, spells matter effects like phoenix or pyromancer), they just don't do that much. Losing some filtering power for free card advantage later in the game with Hieroglyph has been very powerfulPosted in: Control
Mar 14, 2019Here's a wild idea I'd like some feedback on: maindecking Surgical Extraction. I feel that grave decks are so plentiful now that being able to maindeck SE could be very powerful, but the obvious issue is the card disadvantage which makes it so bad in any fair deck. However, I think if there is a fair deck that could pull this off, it would be Grixis Death Shadow:Posted in: Midrange
- It can benefit from the lifeloss as an instant speed trick
- it can use it in conjunction with discard spells
- it has a gameplan that can really benefit from taking a single specific card out of your opponent's deck, like Path to Exile.
Then, there are a bunch of cute interactions:
- You could Mishra's bauble your opponent, see what they draw, then surgical to shuffle their deck or even surgical what they draw
- up a creek without a paddle vs tron (or any similar deck) you could Thought Scour them in hope to Surgical a tronland
- poor man's Gitaxian Probe
You would side out Surgical a lot, similar to faithless looting, but gain a large percentage against dredge and phoenix, the two top decks.
Mar 13, 2019You are not going to playtest enough to get significant amounts of data for all those decks. Instead of adding, I would suggest to cut down on gauntlet decks (10 at most), and get a good amount of playtesting in against those.Posted in: Modern
Mar 7, 2019I could definitely see modern critics being the first ones to go toxic, most of them are posting from a point of frustration and there definitely are a lot of people who just want to ban whatever they lost at FNM to last night. That makes it even harder when you do want to come from a reasonable point of view and modern defenders start with a mindset of "oh boy here we go again" (understandably so).Posted in: Modern
As for the defenders bringing the most stats in, it is a *lot* easier to defend modern being healthy by showing that, with the little data we have, there is no deck that is significantly better.
Mar 7, 2019Posted in: Modern ArchivesQuote from Ym1r »
That's not 100% accurate, one of the most fair decks, Mardu midrange, was one of the first to play Faithless Looting to big success, and I don't think that it can be describe as a deck with little interaction that tries to win fast. Faithless looting has more applications that you give it credit for. Now, this might be an extra reason to ban it for some people, I just think this clarification was required.Quote from Bearscape »Looting, by design, fuels decks that try to win the game quickly and with little interaction by trading (conventional) card disadvantage for brutal efficiency and should be banned as it is an engine card that gets more broken with new cards being printed, and Arclight Phoenix was the tipping point.
I mentioned Mardu being the exception but then backspaced it because my post was already getting lengthy. Yes, mardu is a fair deck that uses looting, but I don't think that invalidates my argument.
I also wouldn't really call Death Shadow a looting deck, as most lists run a singleton that gets sided out most of the time.
Honestly I don't think it will, as I said with Modern Horizons hitting us in three months there seems very little point in changing the banlist at all on Monday.
Mar 7, 2019I don;t think you're going to find a MAJORITY of people disliking modern on a forum for people who play modern; you're already pre-sorting for a bunch of people who at least at some point in time found the format great enough to sink handfuls of money into.Posted in: Modern
But when you criticize the format you (rightfully) have the burden of proof, which is next to impossible with the massive amount of variance and tiny amount of data we have access to. You're not going to change anyone's mind on the internet anyways so once the discussion inevitably turns toxic I think a lot of Modern critics tend to just shut up.
Mar 7, 2019Looting, by design, fuels decks that try to win the game quickly and with little interaction by trading (conventional) card disadvantage for brutal efficiency and should be banned as it is an engine card that gets more broken with new cards being printed, and Arclight Phoenix was the tipping point.Posted in: Modern Archives
Now if you think that UR phoenix and dredge are fine as they currently are, that is yet another discussion, but I personally think these decks are too strong right now and need a banning. The banlist has historically always focussed on the engines of overpowered strategies (KCI, Birthing Pod, Second Sunrise, Eye of Ugin) so it should be Faithless Looting that gets banned and not anything else from these decks.
A second factor is that the type of decks Faitless Looting fuels are generally decks that are disliked by a lot of people; dredge, phoenix, hollow one, vengevine, grishoalbrand are the ones I can name from the top of my head. This is an argument a lot of people roll their eyes at but I do think it has value; a cardgame should be designed to be fun and although fun is obviously subjective, I don't think it is an outrageous statement to make that many more people dislike playing versus unfair deck than vs fair decks. And this factor has played a role in ban updates in the past; decks like Eggs, KCI, legacy miracles and recently nexus of faith in best of 1 standard all had quality of gameplay be a factor in their bannings.
Also, as a sidenote: I am NOT the only person on the internet. I loathe the argument that "people are always egging for bans". That someone else complained about Death Shadow years ago does not invalidate arguments for something else to be banned now.
Mar 7, 2019Didn't think I'd start some kind of revolution with my post, lol.Posted in: Modern
I guess option 4 is most applicable to me; I still go to Modern FNM every other week, but although I used to attend every big event I could drive to I am currently very reluctant to drive to big events. Once you're trying to get strong results in modern, it becomes very frustrating.
Mar 7, 2019Drama aside, this is such an odd time to discuss the state of modern. With both Modern Horizons and (possibly) the London Mulligan coming up, the entire modern meta could just flip upside down. But on the other hand that is still three months from now. War of the Spark and I think two (?) banlist updates will happen before Horizons.Posted in: Modern Archives
March 11th I'd still would like to see Faithless Looting get the hammer, I'm not really interested in another 3 months of Phoenixes and Dredge. But with Modern Horizons in sight I would be incredibly surprised if they change modern in any way
Mar 6, 2019Four people liking my post but not willing to comment whilst two people comment my post is "full of fallacies" and "ridiculous" mirrors exactly everything that quote from Renegade Rallier stirred up in me, lol.Posted in: Modern Archives
As for Modern Horizons stirring things up; yes obviously, of course the new set specifically made for modern will change things. That doesn't change that current modern, to me, is a chore, and I wish Horizons came out yesterday to blow this format right open.
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