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  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from Taleran »
    Is there a loam deck that can make use of this in interesting ways I like this design.

    Also Empty the Bears of your Neoform/Combo wins


    Honestly if I ever get T1'd by Neoform one day and their wincon is OCEAN OF BEARS then all is forgiven
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Control has been mainboarding Negate for years now. Almost all the creature decks run some combination of Cavern of Souls/Aether Vial/Collected Company. Against creature decks, if your counterspells can counter creatures, there's a very big chance you side them out regardless.

    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Relevant things Force of Negation doesn't deal with:

    • Hardcast Primeval Titan
    • Dredging from natural draws
    • Cast triggers for Phoenix
    • Cast triggers to flip Thing
    • Any creature put in with Vial
    • Any creature with haste
    • Any creature with relevant ETB/Cast triggers
    • Flurry of small spells
    • Spells cast on your own turn/upkeep/combat/end step, etc


    What ungodly all-encompassing magic card are you comparing Force of Negation to now that can stop all of that? Cause I need like 4 playsets
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Modern vs Legacy
    Quote from cfusionpm »

    Fateseal is just OK
    Bounce a creature is sometimes really awful (etbs)
    Brainstorm ain't the powerhouse it is in Legacy


    I *strongly* disagree, especially on the last point. If you get two Brainstorms and a shuffle in, the game is over.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    I'm unsure if Flusterstorm will be played much if at all. Dovin's Veto kind of broke the counterspell mirrors into having to be able to counter the thing you're actually fighting over (i.e. planeswalkers) instead of countering counterspells.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    I sort of automatically assumed Scour All Possibilities had a flashback of 3 to be a Think Twice-Preordain hybrid, but at flashback 5 it's not playable.

    Collected Conjuring makes me sour because the creaturecasters get instant speed and us poor spellslingers are stuck with sorcery Frown

    White Force.. I expected nothing and was still disappointed.

    Gives of Runes and Regrowth might have a spot somewhere? Not sure where.

    Quote from headminerve »
    The girl's face in the art reminds me of Emilia Clarke somehow.


    With the white hair and considering she's a Mother of Runes reference card, it would not surprise me if she is indeed a Mother of Dragons homage.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Honestly I would have never guessed that they would ever finish the HorizonCanopy cycle (I guess we call them "horizon lands"?)

    monocolored white and green decks play Canopy just for the effect, especially the GB and RW ones are just a big straight upgrade for existing decks.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on UW Control
    My biggest takeaway of the evening was that I didn't even really need the third wrath in the board vs spirits. Wall makes you able to ignore a small creature instead of being poked at by some random 2/2 you don't want to spend a card on which alleviates the pressure of getting your wrath a bit. Looking at mtgtop8, most UW lists now shift to playing the full 4 snapcasters, which makes spot removal better. I think I'd add a second Oust before mainboarding the third wrath

    UW is always popular and is becoming a real force now, so having less dead cards in the main for the mirror is also a big plus.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Just getting a nice cool 3 mana 2 for 1 after your opponent plays two creatures in one turn seems fine to me, the pitch clause is just an emergency valve.

    What does keep it back in my mind is that basically all creature decks now are vial or coco decks (or both) which makes the pitch a lot weaker, but as I already said I really think this is a card you'd hardcast most of the time.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Grixis Death's Shadow
    GDS's blue count is not high enough to play Force of Negation; in Legacy the bottom limit is often said to be 16, so you'd have to add a whole lot of blue cantrips to the deck to get to that limit.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Whoa, that's a damn good card even without the pitch option. We're 3 for 3 on the force cycle now
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Modern vs Legacy
    More creatures in Modern, blue is busted in Legacy, and Force of Will

    If this is a sneeky breeky way to make people more aware that Force of Negation is a damn good card then I agree
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on UW Control
    As I said in the post, it's the cmc3 walkers that have really pushed this deck. Ignite was powerful and fun but would need more testing

    HOWEVER Fact or Fiction probably now would go in that slot. I'm planning on trying to fit two FoFs in

    Pact of Negation also needs a slot in the deck, I'm probably cutting a cryptic and a cheap counterspell for 2 FoN in the main. It's going to be interesting to balance Dovin's Veto and Force of Negation in the main and side.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from Nyzzeh »
    IMO FON is being severely underappreciated. People talking about it being a SB card and all...


    Absolutely. Especially since it's easy to hardcast, it's definitely a mainboardable card for plenty of decks. I think a lot of people look at Force of Will and then to the downsides they stapled to Force of Negation instead of looking at FoN from the ground up.

    It's funny, although I mostly play UWx and want to play FoN in that, I am actually most excited to pick up merfolk with it again.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Fact or Fiction is FINALLY on the menu, boyz!


    **** yes.

    We can stop the spoiler season now, between Sort of Will and Fact or Fiction I am satisfied.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    I'm just ready to facedesk when the white one turns out to be lifegain
    Posted in: Modern
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