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I played Modern on MKM Series in Prague with Dredge. There were 296 players, I ended in finals and lost to RG Titan.
My list:
Main Deck:
4 Prized Amalgam
4 Bloodghast
4 Narcomoeba
4 Insolent Neonate
4 Stinkweed Imp
3 Golgari Thug
4 Faithless Looting
4 Cathartic Reunion
4 Life from the Loam
1 Darkblast
3 Conflagrate
1 Driven // Despair
3 Copperline Gorge
1 Blackcleave Cliffs
2 Stomping Ground
2 Blood Crypt
2 Mountain
1 Gemstone Mine
2 Dakmor Salvage
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Wooded Foothills
Sideboard:
4 Nature's Claim
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Driven // Despair
3 Lightning Axe
3 Collective Brutality
1 Vengeful Pharaoh
My friends told me day before that on big trial there were a lot of affinity and Company decks so I changed my Amulet Titan deck for Dredge. Couple thoughts about my 75:
1. I'm a big fan of Driven//Despair. I was 100% sure that it's much better than Thoughtseize in sideboard and I wanted 2 copies for game 2 and 3 against combo and ramp decks. Playing 1 main in Scourge Devil's place was last minute addition. Driven main was good, it won me 2 games by discarding opponent's whole hand.
2. Maindeck should still have Scourge Devil, I don't know where I should look for extra space for him.
3. I like having 4 claims side - it's the cheapest response to hard hate - Leyline, Rip and Cage, of course don't side them against for example Nihil Spellbombs or lone Relics. Other alternatives like Maelstorm Pulse are too slow - it will destroy hate but our opponent would be so far ahead that we usually won't return from this.
4. Driven//Despair solve so many problems that could shave cards dedicated to combo decks. I got extra slots and focused on having more removal to creatures. Lightning Axes overperformed, lone Pharaoh was too clunky, that should be something else.
5. Collective Brutality was like always very good, with 3 Axes they created nice side plan against creature decks like Coco.
To be honest I was lucky and dodged bad match ups like Storm or Ad Nauseam.
Match ups:
R1 Affinity 2-1
R2 Grixis Delver 2-0 - Despair won game 1, it let me dodge blocking Tasigur and discard 4 cards from opponents hand.
R3 Counters Company 2-0
R4 Affinity 2-1
R5 Eldrazi Tron 0-2 - he knew what I was playing and on a play kept 2 lander with 2 Relics Game 2 I mulligan to 5 and he had relic + fast Smasher.
R6 Grixis Shadow 2-1 - Game 3 I won through Grafdiggers Cage played on turn 1. He drew 3 Delve Creatures, I drew 3 Lightning Axes won with 2 Imps and Neonate beatdown.
R7 Eldrazi Tron 2-0 - luckily G1 without hate and game 2 he kept bad hand with Cage but I had Claim.
R8 Counters Company 2-0
R9 Counters Company 2-0 - game 1 Driven was my only out to my opponents plan - he had 4 cards in hand, 4 lands and Hierarch on play and pass. I realised that he wanted to play Chord in endstep and combo me next turn. I didn't have lethal in my turn but Dredged Driven//Despair. I forced him to discard Vizier, Eternal Witness and blank, on endstep he played Chord but without more gas he conceded.
1/4 RG Tytan 2-1 - in game 3 my opponent lost his hand on turn 4 becouse of Despair
1/2 Grixis Shadow 2-0 - you can read about both semis and final on MKM Modern coverage.
Final RG Tytan 0-2 - in game 2 I was on mull to 5 but managed to have 3 Bloodghasts and Narcomoeba on turn 2 and turn 3 I casted Driven to draw 4 cards and was so exited that I did this that I forgot to write down that my opponent lost 7 life that's why I missplayed on Conflagrate 2 turns later and lost otherwise won game.
Overall deck was great, I saw very little grave hate. Maybe players on MTGO will shave their grave hate and will focus on other match ups? We will see
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jnewhouse posted a message on [Primer] Ironworks ComboYeah, a little loose in the terminology, but given the deck we're talking about, figure it shouldn't be too confusingPosted in: Modern Archives - Proven -
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izzetmage posted a message on GP Kobe and CopenhagenDay 2 decks at CopenhagenPosted in: Modern
1 Halonen 27 Titanshift
3 Perbet 27 Dredge
4 Ramis Pascual 27 Counters Company
5 Holtmann 27 (Jund?) DS
9 Kleymenov 25 4C Humans
12 Murphy 24 Grixis DS
14 Juza 24 Elves w/ Vizier
15 Hupkens 24 Ad Nauseam
17 Vontitsos 24 Dredge
20 Chronopoulos 24 Dredge
21 Lantto 24 5C DS
22 Wohrle 24 Burn
23 Dang 24 Jund DS
24 Gerschenson 24 5C DS
25 Tobiasch 24 Esper Goryo's
27 Aldeia 24 Burn
31 Hansen 24 Counters Company
33 Larsen 24 Counters Company
34 Le Francois 24 Dredge
39 Andersen 24 Burn
54 Carvalho 22 Jund DS
56 Shenhar 22 Jeskai As Foretold
61 Bonaventura 22 Grixis
62 Patarca 22 Jund DS
67 Semkin 21 5C Aggro
72 Enevoldsen 21 Living End
73 Mackl 21 Grixis Faeries
76 Bergmann 21 Company Zoo w/ Rhonas
86 Grimmer Abzan DS
101 Watsfeldt 21 Bant Humans
105 Thompson 21 Affinity
113 Rossi 21 Storm
120 Axelsson 21 Dredge
131 Nystrom 21 Humans
155 Moritz 21 Elves
160 Dowling 21 Company Zoo
165 Nagy 21 Knightfall
195 Paananen 21 Merfolk
226 Boussaud 19 UW Control
232 Brans 19 UW Control
237 Bork 19 Ironworks Combo
244 Elmblad 19 RG Tron
246 Reitenauer 19 Jeskai Kiki
259 Horttanainen 18 Bant Eldrazi
263 Depraz 18 BG DS splashing UW
269 Dakic 18 some Valakut deck
275 Stier 18 GW Tron
278 Avedano 18 Eldrazi Tron
287 (Joel) Larsson 18 Counters Company
291 Kopra 19 Grixis DS
300 Grewers 18 Ad Nauseam
318 Lupalo 18 UB Faeries
329 Drogemuller 18 Elves
338 Ewaldh 18 UR As Foretold
365 Traarbach 18 Eldrazi Tron
373 Emtoft 18 Knightfall
375 Lind 18 Grixis DS
382 Korobkin 18 Boros Burn
392 Knocinski 18 Merfolk (previous GP Copenhagen winner)
398 Vanhatupa 18 Affinity
400 Grove 18 Amulet
423 Bernabe 18 Elves
505 Cummings Eliassen 18 Jund DS
511 Kardas 18 Temur Omen Scapeshift
543 Anghelescu 18 Living End -
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Zeranox posted a message on [Primer] Ironworks ComboAfter messing with the deck some more I modified my deck:Posted in: Modern Archives - Proven
4 * Darksteel Citadel
2 * Inventors' Fair
4 * Glimmervoid
4 * Spire of Industry
2 * Yavimaya Coast
1 * Island
4 * Mox Opal
4 * Ancient Stirrings
4 * Chromatic Star
4 * Chromatic Sphere
3 * Terrarion
4 * Ichor Wellspring
4 * Pentad Prism
1 * Thopter Foundry
1 * Sword of the Meek
4 * Scrap Trawler
4 * Krark-Clan Ironworks
3 * Whir of Invention
2 * Hangarback Walker
1 * Aetherflux Reservoir
Replaced Emrakul with Aetherflux Reservoir, as it's a win con that you can tutor for with either Fair or Whir. Also decided I needed another 0 cost over Whir so I added a second hangarback.
I didn't realize until recently that hangarback + sword of the Meek + Trawler + KCI is a loop for Mana and thopters, and if you have any star effect you also draw your deck!
Currently 4-0 in a league I'll do a write up when I have time to finish it out. Every match has been pretty epic! -
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Posted in: ComboQuote from Mastermind250 »Where do you guys think we are meta wise right now (in terms of tiers)? I know we are hanging at about 1.56% of the meta, but I don't actually know where on the tier list that is. Granted I know the tiers aren't always the best measure of how good a deck is, because I think we do pretty well against a good deal of the meta, but just curious. Like, bottom of tier 2?
Hey, I actually just unveiled my comprehensive modern tiered list that I've been working on for around 4 months, and Dredge has currently been wavering between the bottom of tier 2 and the top of tier 3 for the past few weeks. You can find it here, check it out! -
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Chilli_Axe posted a message on DredgePlayed in day 1 of GP Brisbane with dredge earlier and qualified for day 2 with a 6-3 recordPosted in: Combo
DeckMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards Land (20)
2x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Copperline Gorge
2x Dakmor Salvage
1x Forest
1x Mountain
1x Steam Vents
2x Stomping Ground
3x Wooded Foothills
Instant (1)
1x DarkblastCreature (25)
4x Bloodghast
4x Golgari Thug
4x Insolent Neonate
4x Narcomoeba
4x Prized Amalgam
1x Scourge Devil
4x Stinkweed Imp
Sorcery (14)
4x Cathartic Reunion
3x Conflagrate
4x Faithless Looting
3x Life from the LoamSideboard (15)
2x Abrupt Decay
2x Ancient Grudge
1x Bojuka Bog
2x Collective Brutality
1x Darkblast
1x Ghost Quarter
2x Gnaw to the Bone
2x Lightning Axe
2x Nature's Claim
2-0 vs Jund
1-2 vs Bant Eldrazi
2-1 vs Grixis Control
1-2 vs RG Tron
1-2 vs RW Prison
2-0 vs Elves
2-1 vs RG Aggro
2-1 vs RG Tron
2-0 vs Kiki-Chord
Can post a more detailed tournament report once day 2 is finished if anyone is interested -
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ruqle82 posted a message on Death's Shadow ZooI'm back grinding for modern season again. GPT today I'll try and share my results/notes.Posted in: Modern Archives - Proven - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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Seriously this has been fun to play in the competitive league since Saturday. It'll set you back about $40, entry fee included.
18 Mountain
4 Nivmagus Elemental
4 Kiln Fiend
3 Flamekin Harbinger
4 Mutagenic Growth
4 Manamorphose
4 Ground Rift
4 Gut Shot
3 Slaughter Pact
4 Temur Battle Rage
4 Assault Strobe
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Shattering Spree
4 Tormod's Crypt
3 Young Pyromancer
4 Wastes
The deck may be better to include Surgical Extractions, Blood Moons, and Pacts of Negation in the side, but hey. I wanted to sling together a budget list to enjoy myself until people quit playing Tron variants.
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Bant Eldrazi was the other. Both are blasts from the past!
Also, Goblins was listed in the day 2 metagame! I would love to see a list. When Grixis Shadow and UW Control were ruling the roost, I was able to sneak in two trophies in competitive leagues. Now that the meta has transitioned to more scapeshift, eldrazi, and storm, I can barely maintain fifty percent.
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How often is Monastery Swiftspear getting there? I used to play them in the Rakdos, Grixis, and Jund builds I used to play, but I ended up replacing them (or at least 2 of them) with Flamekin Harbingers. Sometimes in removal heavy events I'd play 13 creatures, with 2 Harbingers and 3 Swiftspears, but even then I just hoped Swiftspear would take an early hit.
Spark of Creativity and the upcoming Rile from Ixalan got me excited to brew with this and Dirty Red again. I think in the absence of Gitaxian Probe I am more interested in playing Desperate Ritual lists, but I am always up for some Nivmagus action.
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4 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
7 Mountain
4 Goblin Guide
3 Vexing Devil
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
3 Mogg Fanatic
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
3 Claim//Fame
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Goblin Grenade
1 Rain of Gore
2 Forked Bolt
1 Electrickery
3 Tormod's Crypt
1 Mogg Fanatic
4 Smash to Smithereens
3 Dragon's Claw
There is little that feels better than
T1 Goblin Guide, swing for 2
T2 War Marshal, swing for 2
T3 Don't pay echo, Claim War Marshal, Whack, swing for 13
Against so many decks, that's game. This is forgetting simple Devil, Claim Devil, Grenade and chip in shenanigans.
If you guys can figure out the Eldrazi Tron match (people that suggest Blood Moon need not apply), Storm, and the RG Valakut match, then you'll really be on to a contender. As it is, those are common, and those are tough.
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You guys got a post on mtgtop8!
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Here are the most recent Dredge results on Goldfish.
8-1 deck at the Modern PTQ (4 Neonates)
7-2 deck, same event (3 Neonate)
6-2 deck, Modern MOCS (2 Neonate)
Modern Challenge winner (2 Neonate)
What I'm getting at is people are trying to squeeze things in new spots. The Haunted Dead/Rally/Scourge Devil/21st land slots were always seeing some customization, but now people are playing with dropping more Golgari Thugs and Neonates.
Nature's Claim is also on the rise in sideboards, which makes sense, because there is a lot of Affinity.
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Borborygmos Enraged - Maybe Death's Shadow Zoo? After Loaming?
Blazing Archon - affinity, Infect, Dredge (well, they still have Conflagrate..), Merfolk
Iona - Burn, Jund
Sire of Insanity- blue
Realm Razer - Tron?
Craterhoof Behemoth - Anything that you can kill with it that turn?
Stormtide Leviathan - Zoo
Ghosts of the Innocent - STORM LOL
Ruric Thar - Storm
Saheeli Rai, Sun Titan - Something?
Woodfall Primus - Lantern
It's tricky to think of something against Eldrazi. Terastodon or Hoof, I guess. They have Paths.
Still need something against Ad Nauseam too. There's a Devour Mind Twist guy.
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As far as Dredge being bad against the top decks, I couldn't disagree more. Right now I would prefer to play against the top 30% of the field, looking at MTGGoldfish. I only start to worry when the field gets to RG Valakut and Ad Nauseam, which are the 9th and 10th most popular decks. Before that we have Death's Shadow, Affinity, Eldrazi Tron, Bant Eldrazi, Tron, Abzan, Jund, and Burn. I am not crazy about the Bant Eldrazi matchup, and none of these are cakewalk, but I feel like they are slightly favorable. Most local paper metas, from anecdotal evidence, seem to have a few Burn players, a lot of midrange, a Tron guy, and a few wacky combos or budget/new player brews. Dredge is an easy choice, especially for a player like I am: an occasional visitor to the LGS.
In terms of MTGO, my past 5 leagues have been 19-6. It's been frustrating that I haven't hit 5-0 once, going 4-1 four times and 3-2 once, but still there is nothing else I'd rather play locally (I've never *not* cashed since Cathartic Reunion was printed at the LGS), and I would gladly sleeve it up for a big event.
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