MTG Salvation

Quote from Macabre »

So I'm liking the idea, but the payoff cards are the holdup for me here.

It may be possible to loop cards with a combo, but what cards are worth looping when buyback cards seem to be better. Brazen borrower could be capsize, bonecrusher giant could be searing touch, embereth shieldbreaker could be shattering pulse, hypnotic sprite could be forbid, murderous rider could be slaughter, and so on and so on. There will need to be a dedicated commander adventure deck that supplies us with dedicated multiplayer adventure cards for a significant impact.

I think this would still be very fun to play. Adding creature sacrifice effects means it could be more like an aristocrats/blood artist deck, using the loops for control and building up. Kess would be great at enabling bitter ordeal kills. Unfortunately the best engine to make this sort of combo work was paradox engine, but now all casual/fun brews with that fun ship sank.

Are there any easy repeatable ways to make Kess a new permenant with the adventure cards so you can use her more than once a turn?

Quote from 5colors »

Y'all know they been doing ~50% return planes, new planes since Scars of Mirrodin right?

Quote from Xcric »

not just that, but do commander players even care what plane we visit? format doesn't really impact the popularity of a set, or the desire to return to it... the cards do.

Now, under the reworked 601.3e, you just check legality based on what you actually want to do, rather than go through those hoops. Makes a lot more sense.

Example: Garruk’s Horde says, in part, “You may cast the top card of your library if it’s a creature card.” If you control Garruk’s Horde and the top card of your library is a noncreature card with morph, you may cast it using its morph ability.

Example: Melek, Izzet Paragon says, in part, “You may cast the top card of your library if it’s an instant or sorcery card.” If you control Melek, Izzet Paragon and the top card of your library is Giant Killer, an adventurer creature card whose Adventure is an instant named Chop Down, you may cast Chop Down but not Giant Killer. If instead you control Garruk’s Horde and the top card of your library is Giant Killer, you may cast Giant Killer but not Chop Down.

Quote from bobthefunny »

I sometimes like to build things counter to regular expectations. Also, any Commander can be a Voltron Commander.

I mean, if you get down to it, you could make essentially a venn diagram of all the colors, and see how their overlaps would show what the strengths of the colors would be.

Building the deck first is not always a bad idea. my Trostani deck only picked Trostani as the commander after about 2/3 of the deck was built. It was built as a lands-matter deck to be centered around Glacial Chasm. As I started building the deck, there was a lot of ramp and playing extra lands, so I wanted landfall triggers - most landfall makes creature tokens - And then entered Trostani - Worked well with tokens, and would give me the life needed to get the time to find the chasm, and to pay for the upkeep.

If you wanted pure expectations on colors, here we go:

COLOR - EXPECTATION - ALTERNATE IDEA
W - Some kind of white weenie/token swarm deck. Mobilization/Heliod stuff. Alternate: Artifact recursion control/combo.
U - Hard Control. Everyone expects counter heavy, card draw, grind. Possibly even mill/draw/deck ideas. Alternate: Make sea creature tribal. Go for the big fish.
B - Graveyard loops/Blood Artist/Gray Merchant of Asphodel kills. Alternate: Make them discard their hand. Specters everywhere.
R - Artifact Recursion. Feldon/Daretti/Goblin Welder. OR Goblins. Alternate: Set everything on fire. I mean everything
G - Ramp Ramp Big beats. Or elves. Alternate - Hurricane.

COLOR - WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT.
WU - Tokens and control. Detain. Police. No fun for anyone. Kill everything, counter the rest. Grand Arbiter Augustion
WB - Tokens. Sac outlets. Teysa. Grave Pact effects. Life drain and life steal.
WR - Aggro. Either wide and hard, or something with high power/low life early on, trying to kill someone early. Maybe even some land D to seal the deal on the rest.
WG - Long game. Recursion central. Good luck killing their board, and when you do, it'll just come right back. Incremental value, great removal.

UB - Control and Remove all threats. Flashback to do it again. Cheap creatures with draw to refill the hand as they tear you apart.
UR - Storm. It might not use storm cards, but they're going to cast 20 spells in a turn, and then you'll be dead.
UG - +1 counters. Everywhere.

BR - Aggro again, but with more expendable creatures and self-sac effects.
BG - Graveyard's coming back.

RG - Creatures go sideways, with more Overrun.

Quote from Creedmoor »

Me when I hear about Return to Theros and yet another Zendikar:

"Boring. Guess it's time to quit buying and just play with the cards I already own."

Magic announces more Commander products that sound amazing. Me:

"I AIN'T QUITTIN' YOU!!!"

Quote from Descendant of Urza »

My all-time favorite depiction of Jeska has to be this fan art by fellow MTGS user merkymerx though:



I wish I could get a Jeska card with that artwork...

Quote from opterown »

https://imgur.com/a/Sa6ZmI0

rest of the commons from the TBH leak

Quote from lith »

All I care is I can finally have Jeska PW!!!!:sunny:
I wonder Jeska would be in Jeskai color hmmm

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Quote from berlin412 »

Another interesting detail:

The frieze on Elspeth's card shows the planeswalker hitting Heliod (on the right) in the same fashion as she did with Xenagos (on the left)...

Is it part of the previous storyline and I missed it or is it new?

I guess the one yet to come, as her moniker would suggest.

And I love that even her statue depicts the pierced crack in her armor where Heliod originally struck her.