MTG Salvation

I like the approach of
Balance style cards, because it suits white’s attitude of equality: If not bring your advantage up to others you pull them down instead. White is also known for suppression, so if we combine both:

Balance Suppress
3WW
Sorcery
Choose target player who controls the lowest number of permanents. Each other player sacrifices permanents until the total number of permanents under their control is equal to that number. Then, each player draw cards equal to the number of permanents they sacrifices this way.

This would allow white players who normally control the highest number of tokens to immediately refresh their hand in an act of seemly equalizing move. Power level could be adjusted of course.

I presume it'd be the same case with a Bestow aura; an enchantment while chanting a creature, but once it's on the field as a creature it is also an enchantment.

Thx for the help!

Unlike Polymorph, Reality Scramble only states that the card you get a card that shares a card type with the permanent you "morph". Since a Theros god is at times NOT a creature when you morph it, can you still get a creature from Scrambling it?

We must remember that each color and combination must retain its characteristics. They need to be buffed base on their traits, rather than homogenize to become like others (like giving them Dredge).

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However, if you do that, it is still main phase. Your opponent can cast another Brudiclad after that before going to combat, for example.

So when my opponent declare an end to his first main, I could destroy Brudiclad to prevent him from creating token, but he'd still have a chance to cast Brudiclad again? I thought actions like that require instant speed effect.

I personally prefer the color pie doesn't get disrupted solely for EDH's sake. They can make card-draws for white that befits the format in an EDH product, but it ought to stay within the boundary of its color design. I hate to see white card draws en mass in standard when it already has great number of creature advantages.

I believe that each color should have its own advantages, not necessary has to be card draws, though artifact tends to bypass that... with limitations of course. Endless Atlas is a great card that helps mono-color and 2-color decks which favorably benefit white because white is known for basic land search, second only to green.

Rather than buffing white on "drawing" specifically, I second many people's idea that it should focus on "balancing" disadvantage, such as draw/fetch/tutor in response to other people's advantage, because it suits white's "help the weak, uphold the fairness" theme. Of course, cards with Balance would work too. For example:

Education Fund
W
Instant

Cast this spell only if your opponents have drawn three or more cards total since your last turn.
Search your library for a card and put it into your hand.

It is the duty of government to provide education for all.

Cards like this one suit white's flavor and grows in power in multiplayer format likely EDH) without hurting other format. Power level could be adjusted accordingly.

Another example:

Search for Car Key
5W
Sorcery

Convoke
Search your library for a card and put it into your hand.

It helps when everyone look together.

Again, another card that suits white's flavor of power in number, allowing it to gain access to cards that otherwise outside of color pie.

So, these are some of the many artists whom they choose to abandon in newer MtG sets, eh?

When does it happen exactly? Can I do something before Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer creates a token by destroying it when opponent announces the end of his first main phase, prior to announcing combat?

Thx all for the answer!

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Guile won't apply. Because the spell is uncounterable Guile's replacement effect can never apply.

But Guile says, "If a spell or ability you control WOULD counter a spell," so I figure the replacement effect happens when a countering attempt is made, even if the spells ultimately can't be countered.

A continuation from Dovescape questions

Dovescape + Taigam, Ojutai Master + Guile

So Dovescape counters any noncreature spells, Taigam negates any countering of your instant and sorcery, while Guile replaces any countered effect by exiling the spells and allow you to cast it right then (or they're gone forever).

I presume together you will get the bird tokens from casting a noncreature spell, the spell will get exiled due to Guile's replacement, and Taigam's anti-countering never had a chance to prevent the spell from being exiled. From there, you get to keep casting the same spell over and over to get more bird tokens, but the spell will never resolve due to it being exiled repeatedly?

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So even if I cast Swan Song to counter Martial Coup ahead of time, Dovescape still triggers and create token for my opponent?

Dovescape's ability triggers whenever a noncreature spell is cast, regardless of what that spell does or whether it can be countered. In this scenario, Martial Coup is a noncreature spell, so that ability triggers and goes on the stack above Martial Coup, before players get priority to cast other spells, including Swan Song (C.R. 601.2i, 116.5, 116.1a, 405.2). And if you cast Swan Song in response to Martial Coup, Dovescape's ability will likewise trigger, since it's a noncreature spell, and that ability will go on the stack above Swan Song (C.R. 405.2, 116.7). Then, in this scenario, assuming all players pass until the stack is empty:

• The Dovescape ability you control resolves, Swan Song isn't countered (since it's an instant spell you control), and you create one Bird token (C.R. 116.4, 608.2c, 101.2, 101.3, 701.5a).
• Swan Song resolves, Martial Coup is countered (since nothing says it can't be here), and your opponent creates a Bird token.
• The Dovescape ability your opponent controls resolves, Martial Coup isn't countered (since it already was), and your opponent creates as many Bird tokens as Martial Coup's converted mana cost (C.R. 101.2, 101.3, 701.5a).

Ouch, so I was wrong in that game. Guess I owe my opponent a win. Thx for the answer.

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Both in Swan Song and Dovescape's ability, the player concerned creates the token or tokens called for, even if the spell in question can't be countered, since that action, in both cases, doesn't depend on whether that spell is countered this way. (For instance, Dovescape's ability doesn't say "...counter that spell. If you do, that player...")

So even if I cast Swan Song to counter Martial Coup ahead of time, Dovescape still triggers and create token for my opponent?

I control Dovescape and Taigam, Ojutai Master, my opponent casts Martial Coup, I presume I could cast Swan Song in response to Dovescape's trigger, just so my opponent doesn't get all the bird tokens? (Since Taigam prevents my own instant/sorcery from being countered)

I like the new Boros story, and it added more depth to the otherwise very straightforward (albeit unnecessarily so) guild. Every guild should be more than one dimensional, and it's high time Boros receive some details since the first Ravnica novel. I expect Gruul story to have some feels too, instead of the usual aggression.