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  • posted a message on March of the Machines Aftermath, New Netflix series, and a Cosmic Retcon
    Yeah it could be like the thanos snap, killing all Phyrexians or something like that.


    It could also be used to retcon or explain why events of War of the Spark didn’t happen the way they’re portrayed in the books. Maybe some butterfly effect of time travel- though that would be counter to how we’ve seen time travel work on Tarkir, with serious changes only affecting the plane in question.


    If that’s the case they could also use the plot device to explain a new timeline (Netflix series) or why the current timeline is a little bit changed.


    I don’t think think the Non-Phyrexization of the settings afterwards means there **won’t** be a cosmic in-lore retcon, but rather it instead suggests that New Phyrexia likely loses or isn’t 100% successful.


    The Caverns of Ixalan set however mention the loss of the ‘Sun’ artefact as still being canonical so that is the biggest point against my theory unless some plot points remain the same.

    Some other ‘big’ options besides/in addition to a cosmic retcon:

    - all/some planes permanently connected via a multiverse tree (allows disparate legendaries to interact like in ‘commander’)

    - all/some universes perma connected by a multiverse tree (think ‘Universes Beyond’) yes. I hate this.

    - the Spark being changed (allows corporate to meddle with PW powers or roster)

    -ordering of the multiverse changed (unpopular planes fading/dying, popular planes more central < Shandalar destroyed, Dominaria’s placement shifts, Ravnica becomes center of the multiverse>)

    - maybe it will be the end of the current storyline and the epilogue will be meant to explain what happened to our favourite characters with future sets set in the far future as a soft reboot.

    - colour pie or card type/mechanical changes

    - Connect canonically the D&D universe and MtG multiverse on account of some deep cosmological screw up (I hope not)


    My main point is that if a major change to the multiverse is being hinted at as a plot point- you can ‘bet your butt’ that the reasoning behind the move will be a corporate one, though not necessarily good nor bad as that’s subjective and we don’t have a lot of info yet.

    Evidence from the past? The Mending was a way to make godlike planeswalkers grokable and bring the story online with contemporary tastes.

    Someone check to see if there’s been any shift or news about Hasbro grand IP plans though, as that might give us a better picture of what could possibly be realigned.

    Remember when Fox owned the film rights to the X-Men, while Marvel owned the comic book rights?

    - Marvel: No More Mutants/introd of Inhumans/less emphasis on mutants in the Comics

    Then Disney eventually acquired both.

    Magic isn’t just a story or a card game. It’s a franchise, and we can’t understand how the game and story evolves without taking larger interests into account.

    Maybe this is all just in my head, but we Vorthi are often Wizards’ greatest fans and most inconvenient critics. When the company tried to change Chandra’s sexuality in War of the Spark for marketing purposes, the community (vorthi in particular) let the company know that it was an unacceptable change.

    Not all change is bad, but we need to be similarly prepared to interrogate the larger interests at play behind any large changes in the future to both the game & story.


    My theory is that some past story elements will remain the same, but that the future Netflix series will be deemed ‘canon’ or ‘concurrent’ alongside/over the canon we know & love already. This will aide Hasbro’s possible larger franchise-building goal of keeping both streams consistent, and encouraging consumers to follow both.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on March of the Machines Aftermath, New Netflix series, and a Cosmic Retcon
    So I saw post by Pleasant Kenobi and it unfortunately makes a lot of sense with some caveats:

    “My theory. The Phyrexians are going to win. Completion is MTG's "the Snap" and it will eventually be undone via time travel hijinks. This time travel will cause a new mending where old characters lose their spark - allowing for a refresh and reset for the staple of walkers.”

    https://twitter.com/PleasantKenobi/status/1560954136941793282?s=20&t=qWnM6YczOxUSprRKdgTxDg


    What if this is just a shrewd use of a known trope called the ‘Cosmic Retcon’? Where the story’s canonical reality is changed to better adhere to what/where the IP’s owner would like to take the story- but can’t because of current cannon?


    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CosmicRetcon

    We know MtG is getting a new Netflix series that doesn’t follow the cannon. We also know that there’s something different about ‘The Aftermath’, both as a set and as story that has unusual ramifications for standard and the Story’s internal ‘multiverse’.

    https://twitter.com/Jason_IT_NBer/status/1561061900703748098?s=20&t=aieBkPG8qUNYJnqx9vU2dg


    While it could just be the reintroduction of a small set that’s draftible with a main set, I just have this weird feeling that the set might be meant to provide some closure to fans before totally resetting some narrational elements of what we thought we knew.

    Inconvenient plotlines or details that the company would rather change or ignore.


    I might be wrong but given how convoluted & deep Magic’s past has been, and unpopular some more recent works like the War of the Spark Novels were- I’m suspicious if this isn’t just some means to hand wave stuff the company doesn’t like.

    This could be good or bad. I assume that if a cosmic retcon is made, that the changes will be to ensure a more marketable IP. But there are always losers & winners with such potential changes, and sometimes an attempt to make a piece of IP more marketable, or appealing to certain audiences comes at a cost of equity (queer-erasure & Chandra in War of the Spark books); oddity (loss of unpopular characters & settings) and history (destruction of a known body of canon).

    What do y’all suspect is the reason behind all these cryptic tidbits of info?







    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Dominaria United Story, Worldbuilding and Lore
    I’m on my phone and cannot use the spoiler tag properly so all I’ll say is:

    …my goodness!
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on New game night set incoming
    I actually really like these products. I find it difficult to teach my friends basic MtG while also teaching them commander.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Domnaria United is getting a legendary in every pack (again)

    I’m from Canada too!

    AB myself!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Quote from Mullerornis »
    We were within splitting seconds of getting a second Travails.



    Yup! Though maybe it wouldn’t have been as bad since there’d be no insanity-causing cosmic horrors.

    Like a planar Dark Barony with angels to enforce the vampires will, and killing as they did.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Today’s story was the first of the latest Innistrad stories (so far) to not have pacing issues.


    The story was good though it didn’t seem to explain why Chandra ‘dressed to kill’ in a formal gown.

    If she (as a +1 or small cadre) accompanied Sorin at the festivities in the barely hidden guise of ‘witnessing’ the occasion, then I could be convinced of the change in appearance.


    But that’s not what happened, nor has it been explained why or how she got the dress.


    If anything, she’s about to lead a bunch of human allies and soldiers into battle.

    I mean, who does that IN HEELS??

    That and the flavor text with Arlinn being the one to object to the wedding. Having the flavor not match the story is a weird way to avoid spoilers from having the set come out before the story.



    RIGHT?!??
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Today’s story was the first of the latest Innistrad stories (so far) to not have pacing issues.


    The story was good though it didn’t seem to explain why Chandra ‘dressed to kill’ in a formal gown.

    If she (as a +1 or small cadre) accompanied Sorin at the festivities in the barely hidden guise of ‘witnessing’ the occasion, then I could be convinced of the change in appearance.


    But that’s not what happened, nor has it been explained why or how she got the dress.


    If anything, she’s about to lead a bunch of human allies and soldiers into battle.

    I mean, who does that IN HEELS??
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Storytelling Critique Thread
    Is it just me or are we seeing similar pacing flaws we saw in BfZ? I’m not liking the 5 story format at all.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Has there been a change in the site’s ad policy??
    Hello, I wish to provide feedback that sometime over the last month (or two) the site has become extremely slow for mobile users, and there seems to be new, pop up banner ads that I didn’t have to deal with before, stop of the top and bottom ads that was normally the case.


    It’s slowing everything to a halt and disincentivizes me further from participating in here
    Posted in: Staff Helpdesks
  • posted a message on [RETIRED] [Admin] bobthefunny's Strategic Chalkboard
    This site is dead. I now avoid it except to talk story. The mods insufficiently moderate n be latent hate here.

    From the usual customers of course.
    Posted in: Staff Helpdesks
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Bad Advertisements Report Thread
    Starting to get banner ads in addition to the top and below ads that are really slowing everything down for me
    Posted in: Forum Software Feedback and Bug Reports
  • posted a message on Runo Stromkirk - Einpapo preview
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Ha! Maro just claimed the vampires would only be in mardu colors

    Any way at last we got Runo stormkirk and the flip side……


    my lord… tiro is gonna yell so loud we will hear it no matter where we are because we finally have are sea monster tribal legend
    Is it though? I can't even use this card in my Thrasios/Arixmethes deck, and if I use Runo as a general, I wouldn't be able to include Arixmethes, which is completely unacceptable.



    Let me get this straight you have been begging f9r years and years for a sea monster tribal legend we finally get it (also easy to flip to the tribal side.)

    AND YOU HATE IT ALL BECAUSE ITS MISSING G!


    besides the flip side is easily based on the Cthulhu

    and this color pairing is more fitting for sea monsters

    and He lets you run these guys


    and on top of that you can't target the shrouded and legendary ones with the legend if you exclude those you only miss out on 2 green sea monsters



    I concur. Why not differentiate the tribe a bit? I for one am happy it isn’t sultai or yet another simic sea monster.


    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [VOW] Halana and Alena, Partners— @wizards_magic preview
    Ah, weddings, moonlight, near-certain death, love is in the air.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Is Chandra having a potential fling? Looks like Olivia isn’t the only one that might end up getting a nice shag by the end of these celebrations.

    The lucky lady isn’t Nissa, but she’ll do!
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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