I agree with Rasputin, but i've never employed the toploader strategy.
I have just like you almost an entirely foiled out deck. There's some people at my lgs that are just... loud and often comes with bad hygiene. Suddenly they break out the bag of chips and my eyes can't really believe it.
This dude took like, a foiled Metalworker or whatever and slammed it to the table and the like, even you know, taken a card and done a bunch of gestures with it and whatever.
i was fuming, like you said.
Or when i talk about a card that got spoiled and show it on my phone while i hold it so people can see, this one guy grabs my phone when i show it to get a clearer view.
I just clenched my fingers, he asked wtf i was doing and i just said: No! I don't want to let go.
Some people... you're friendly to them and they try and take your arm off.
What i don't like about Treasure nabber is that people will take and grab my cards. Some people are filthy when they're playing, chips and chocolate etc.
I agree that azor's gateway is gonna interesting if your running voltaic and unwinding and clock of omens. As for graveyard hate I'm running tormods crypt, relic of progenitus, and scavenger grounds. I'm thinking about running either sentinel totem or crook of condemnation.
Hm, i still kinda believe (or atleast i want to) in the wishboard plan with Coax from the Blind Eternities! Kinda sucks you gotta dedicate some slots to the sideboard, but it could be very relevant.
Cards!: Newlamog
- removal!
Emrakul, the mindslaver
- Second minslaver
Thought-Knot Seer
- thoughtseize on a stick
Reality Smasher
- planeswalker killer or lsst points of damage!
All is Dust
- a wrath, duh
I think these are the most relevant ones atm.
But im thinking 3 as a maximum for dedicated slots.
Luckily coax.does not exile itself. Aka it.can be brought back with snappy.
Or have you guys already discussed this card enough?
Too casual thinking? Does not beLong at the tournament tables?
Yes, i panicked before i left and i regret it deeply that i left Solem at home. I've just gotten an Engineered Explosive for the deck and had to cut something.:(
Yes another mindslaver, got it!
River of tears enables black mana for EE and making Dismember less taxing.
I would cut 1/for oboro but i don't have one and its quite pricey.
i run Ghost Quarter because that's what i had with me, im still missing a field of ruin.
Yes, i yhink you're right.
Spyglass was there becsuse if i top deck Needle.after Chalice is out it'll kinda suck.
But i can try it out!
You're right about the cages, i still do have trinket mage.
Thanks for the feedback and i will think about it!
Im also considering a Hangarback Walker, instead of my third Repeal. And im also gonna test a Torrential Gearhulk.
Also, i went 2-2-1 last night during modern monday.
Faced:
Rg burn ish? A beginner piloted the deck, i had some slow starts but could eventually develop a solid foundation.
He had things likr Gutter Snipe, Reverberate (don't reverb my Spellburst thats on x=2 )and the Kari Zev's Expertise.
Stole my wurmcoil and almost killed me.
2-0
Dredge
****, first time i'ce faced the deck and he has 10 power on turn 2, 13 on the following turn.
Ihad tron on turn 8 through a map search and a condescend scry for 0 on his faithlesslooting after the landfinding from map.
Drew from,the top and ny outs was Rift, Ugin and O-stone but no such luck.
Snappys block on turn 2 did buy me a turn!
Brought in grafdiggers cage and surgical plus some cheaper counterspells like spellpierce. I had an ok 6 card habd with map and lands, a counterspell.
He had 1/land and faithlesslooting on turn 1 then no lands until turn 4 ish. I managed to stabilize and i then had spellburst up, he scooped. I did manage to surgical his Amalgam on turn 2 and checked his sideboarding.
3 nature'claim and 4 Ancient Grudge.
1-1
He had a pretty good start and i managed to survive at 3 life with an o-stone abd turned it around. Spell burst did its work!
Im now 2-0!
Then i faced a bant humans deck that had Knight of the Reliwuary but without Landdestruction package.
I was kinda annoyed when i mindslavered him to destroy his own manabase but to no avail.
First time iw as sad not to find a Ghost Quarter or tec edge.
Don't have much i fo here but i did punt on the last turn and game. I topdecked trinket Mage, tutored for a map and got a Academy Ruins but passed the turn since i was afraid he would destroy the land, only had 1 blue source which i used on mage, but i HAD to play it that turn to use it in my upkeep if i could survice his 5/5 knight.
But he top decked that bounce mage for 3 and i lost.
Oh yeah abd i mulled to,5 both games.
2-1.
Last matchup was the uwb Obzedat control deck with baby jace.
Interesting deck, how it goes around Goryo's drawback.
First match i mulled to 5, lost, it was too fast.
Killed jace but he got ut back with goryos.
Second match i managed to stabilizie and he miscounted o-stone, thought i had 7 but i had 8.
I grinded him out with Wurmcoils.
Also, i didn't think Rain of Tears was modern legal.
We had 2,5 min left on the third game and decided to play it out and no scooping since it was a league.
I really like the deck, but i was so tired, had barerly slept.
Its a Nice change from playing RG tron for 6-7 years.
A thought came to me as im riding the train: could Coax from the Blind Eternities be viable in the deck? Im thinking of a 3/4 cards dedicated to the card.
Ulamog for removal
Emrakul for Mindslaver
Reality Smasher for those last points of damage
And Thought-Knot Seer for a thoughtseize effect.
Alternatively a All is Dust since its a sweeper that you can get with it.
So the other 10-12 ish cards needs to be more concentrated on the really bad matchups.
But i guess this is more of a win more strategy and has already been discussed.
Still, i do find it interesting as an option.
And then getting a Wrath as a sorcery for Snappy ain't that bad.
Nice, thanks for the answers everyone!
Btw, i tried out the deck against a eternal command deck and even tho i always went second i won all of the matches.
I really like the deck, Condescend is boss. Supreme Will was also really nice.
Walking Ballista could ping Witness and snappy.
Fun deck!
Is Spell Burst worth running? Every list i see posted does not play Spell Burst.
Was thinking of switching it for a Spell Snaresince it works well with Talisman of Dominance
Yes, i will try and get an Explosives if/when i can.
I figured Chalice is nice for the Trinket Mage package but yeah.
How many counters d you usually run? And i like having for example a spell snare after playing the Talisman. I was first thinking.of playing a Spell Pierce instead/or in addition to Spell Snare.
If i cut Spell Snare and Chalice it'll open up my mainboard a bit.
Maybe a Epiphany at the Drownyard and another Dismember?
I've been playing RG Tron for 5-6 years now and i felt like i have to switch decks even tho i love the locomotive known as RG Tron!
So naturally i went mono U tron instead!
This is the list i have so far, don't have much of a sideboard yet but i have stuff like:
Spreading Seas
Pithing Needle
Grafdiggers Cage
Dismember
etc.
I have just like you almost an entirely foiled out deck. There's some people at my lgs that are just... loud and often comes with bad hygiene. Suddenly they break out the bag of chips and my eyes can't really believe it.
This dude took like, a foiled Metalworker or whatever and slammed it to the table and the like, even you know, taken a card and done a bunch of gestures with it and whatever.
i was fuming, like you said.
Or when i talk about a card that got spoiled and show it on my phone while i hold it so people can see, this one guy grabs my phone when i show it to get a clearer view.
I just clenched my fingers, he asked wtf i was doing and i just said: No! I don't want to let go.
Some people... you're friendly to them and they try and take your arm off.
What do you guys think about Azur's Gateway?
These are the cards im using.
I don't playGrafdigger's Cage since i playKozilek, the Great Distortion.
Its kinda important for me to have access to the graveyard.
Cards!: Newlamog
- removal!
Emrakul, the mindslaver
- Second minslaver
Thought-Knot Seer
- thoughtseize on a stick
Reality Smasher
- planeswalker killer or lsst points of damage!
All is Dust
- a wrath, duh
I think these are the most relevant ones atm.
But im thinking 3 as a maximum for dedicated slots.
Luckily coax.does not exile itself. Aka it.can be brought back with snappy.
Or have you guys already discussed this card enough?
Too casual thinking? Does not beLong at the tournament tables?
Btw, happy holidays everybody!
Yes another mindslaver, got it!
River of tears enables black mana for EE and making Dismember less taxing.
I would cut 1/for oboro but i don't have one and its quite pricey.
i run Ghost Quarter because that's what i had with me, im still missing a field of ruin.
Yes, i yhink you're right.
Spyglass was there becsuse if i top deck Needle.after Chalice is out it'll kinda suck.
But i can try it out!
You're right about the cages, i still do have trinket mage.
Thanks for the feedback and i will think about it!
,i don't know if exchanging it for wurmcoil was a good decision buut... would be col to get feedback!
Oh and im planning to put in Spatial Contortion as well , but what should i cut for it?
1x Ghost Quarter
7x Island
2x River of Tears
4x Urza's Mine
4x Urza's Power Plant
4x Urza's Tower
1x Tolaria West
1x Chalice of the Void
4x Expedition Map
1x Talisman of Dominance
1x Mindslaver
1x Oblivion Stone
1x Engineered Explosives
4x Condescend
1x Cyclonic Rift
2x Dismember
1x Spell Burst
1x Supreme Will
4x Thirst for Knowledge
3x Remand
2x Repeal
1x Sundering Titan
1x Platinum Angel
1x Torrential Gearhulk
1x Treasure Mage
1x Trinket Mage
1x Walking Ballista
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1x Dismember
2x Grafdigger's Cage
1x Negate
1x Ratchet Bomb
1x Repeal
1x Sorcerous Spyglass
2x Spreading Seas
1x Summary Dismissal
2x Surgical Extraction
1x Hurkyl's Recall
1x Wurmcoil Engine
Also, i went 2-2-1 last night during modern monday.
Faced:
Rg burn ish? A beginner piloted the deck, i had some slow starts but could eventually develop a solid foundation.
He had things likr Gutter Snipe, Reverberate (don't reverb my Spellburst thats on x=2
Stole my wurmcoil and almost killed me.
2-0
Dredge
****, first time i'ce faced the deck and he has 10 power on turn 2, 13 on the following turn.
Ihad tron on turn 8 through a map search and a condescend scry for 0 on his faithlesslooting after the landfinding from map.
Drew from,the top and ny outs was Rift, Ugin and O-stone but no such luck.
Snappys block on turn 2 did buy me a turn!
Brought in grafdiggers cage and surgical plus some cheaper counterspells like spellpierce. I had an ok 6 card habd with map and lands, a counterspell.
He had 1/land and faithlesslooting on turn 1 then no lands until turn 4 ish. I managed to stabilize and i then had spellburst up, he scooped. I did manage to surgical his Amalgam on turn 2 and checked his sideboarding.
3 nature'claim and 4 Ancient Grudge.
1-1
He had a pretty good start and i managed to survive at 3 life with an o-stone abd turned it around. Spell burst did its work!
Im now 2-0!
Then i faced a bant humans deck that had Knight of the Reliwuary but without Landdestruction package.
I was kinda annoyed when i mindslavered him to destroy his own manabase but to no avail.
First time iw as sad not to find a Ghost Quarter or tec edge.
Don't have much i fo here but i did punt on the last turn and game. I topdecked trinket Mage, tutored for a map and got a Academy Ruins but passed the turn since i was afraid he would destroy the land, only had 1 blue source which i used on mage, but i HAD to play it that turn to use it in my upkeep if i could survice his 5/5 knight.
But he top decked that bounce mage for 3 and i lost.
Oh yeah abd i mulled to,5 both games.
2-1.
Last matchup was the uwb Obzedat control deck with baby jace.
Interesting deck, how it goes around Goryo's drawback.
First match i mulled to 5, lost, it was too fast.
Killed jace but he got ut back with goryos.
Second match i managed to stabilizie and he miscounted o-stone, thought i had 7 but i had 8.
I grinded him out with Wurmcoils.
Also, i didn't think Rain of Tears was modern legal.
We had 2,5 min left on the third game and decided to play it out and no scooping since it was a league.
I really like the deck, but i was so tired, had barerly slept.
Its a Nice change from playing RG tron for 6-7 years.
Ulamog for removal
Emrakul for Mindslaver
Reality Smasher for those last points of damage
And Thought-Knot Seer for a thoughtseize effect.
Alternatively a All is Dust since its a sweeper that you can get with it.
So the other 10-12 ish cards needs to be more concentrated on the really bad matchups.
But i guess this is more of a win more strategy and has already been discussed.
Still, i do find it interesting as an option.
And then getting a Wrath as a sorcery for Snappy ain't that bad.
Btw, i tried out the deck against a eternal command deck and even tho i always went second i won all of the matches.
I really like the deck, Condescend is boss. Supreme Will was also really nice.
Walking Ballista could ping Witness and snappy.
Fun deck!
Was thinking of switching it for a Spell Snaresince it works well with Talisman of Dominance
EDIT: Cool, its a hardcounter agains Ancestral Vision
Yes, i will try and get an Explosives if/when i can.
I figured Chalice is nice for the Trinket Mage package but yeah.
How many counters d you usually run? And i like having for example a spell snare after playing the Talisman. I was first thinking.of playing a Spell Pierce instead/or in addition to Spell Snare.
If i cut Spell Snare and Chalice it'll open up my mainboard a bit.
Maybe a Epiphany at the Drownyard and another Dismember?
I've been playing RG Tron for 5-6 years now and i felt like i have to switch decks even tho i love the locomotive known as RG Tron!
So naturally i went mono U tron instead!
This is the list i have so far, don't have much of a sideboard yet but i have stuff like:
Spreading Seas
Pithing Needle
Grafdiggers Cage
Dismember
etc.
1 Tolaria west
1 Field of Ruin
4 urza's tower
4 urza's mine
4 urza's power plant
7 island
1 academy ruins
4 condescend
4 expedition map
4 thirst for knowledge
1 spell burst
3 repeal
3 remand
1 spell snare
1 dismember
1 supreme will
1 Trinket Mage
1 Treasure Mage
1 Walking Ballista
2 Wurmcoil engine
1 Solemn simulacrum
1 sundering titan
1 platinum angel
1 Ugin, the spirit dragon
1 oblivion stone
1 mindslaver
1 cyclonic rift
I would love to get feedback!
EDIT: Sadly i don't have a Oboro, Palace in the Clouds or Engineered Explosives, i've seen them on many lists