So the other day at FNM, after swiss rounds, one of my friends asks me, "Hey man, do you have a Thassa?" And I replied, "nope, sorry." And he asked, "well, if you pull a Thassa, can I have it?" I replied, "sure. I don't really have a use for her anyways." And when I got my booster for prize support, I opened it up and surely enough, it was a Thassa, which I gave to him and he was really happy afterwards. I am just wondering, how random is this?
Also, there were two other similar instances. One was during one of the first weeks of Theros FNM, where I was like, "now wouldn't it be funny if I pulled a Thoughtseize," and surely enough, I did. And during the first week of Born of the Gods FNM, this guy was like, "you're going to pull a Brimaz." And then I opened my booster and surely enough, there was a Brimaz. How come this never worked for Magic 2014? It would've been cool to get this lucky with Chandras and Mutavaults, you know, cards I actually use in my deck.
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enollava posted a message on Announcing: Modern Event DeckThey could kill the reserved list if they wanted to. It may hurt them in the short run, but they could do it.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
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ulater6000 posted a message on Announcing: Modern Event DeckPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Plaguefather
Wow, so much of that last sentence is SO untrue... It's not players keeping the reserved list alive, it's hoarders... I'm sure Vintage players would love to have more people to play, just like I'd love to have more people playing legacy...
I apologize for the confusion, I did not mean to broadly target all Vintage/Legacy player, I was referring to those who are more concerned with the value of their Vintage/Legacy collection rather than the growth/health of the format and accessibility to players that haven't been playing since the beginning.
Player: "Let's open the reserve list and everyone can play and be friends! (rainbows and butterflies in the background)"
Vintage/Legacy Hoarder: "Noes! they musentiz openz this. It must alwayz be mines alones! No one else must ever have! (gloomy background while everything around them dies and fades away)"
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Plaguefather posted a message on Announcing: Modern Event DeckPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from ulater6000Quote from enollavaThere are a million competitive decks out there that are easy enough to acquire if spending 1000+ on lands wasn't an issue. So Mr. Wizards, please print away. Crush the value of my staples and bring competitive play to the masses. You have my support.
It's too bad the rest of the vintage mtg community are not as reasonable and open to this change as you! Vintage/Legacy will inevitably die unless WOTC gets rid of the reserved list. I bet these players will be real happy when they realize their selfishness that kept the reserved list alive killed their format and left them playing alone
Wow, so much of that last sentence is SO untrue... It's not players keeping the reserved list alive, it's hoarders... I'm sure Vintage players would love to have more people to play, just like I'd love to have more people playing legacy... -
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ulater6000 posted a message on Announcing: Modern Event DeckPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from enollavaThere are a million competitive decks out there that are easy enough to acquire if spending 1000+ on lands wasn't an issue. So Mr. Wizards, please print away. Crush the value of my staples and bring competitive play to the masses. You have my support.
It's too bad the rest of the vintage mtg community are not as reasonable and open to this change as you! Vintage/Legacy will inevitably die unless WOTC gets rid of the reserved list. I bet these players will be real happy when they realize their selfishness that kept the reserved list alive killed their format and left them playing alone
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enollava posted a message on Announcing: Modern Event DeckPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Pulsemagemost magic players dont have tons of money, and cant afford to own full sets of duals, fetches and shocks. let alone have playsets of foil goyfs, bitterblossoms, all the swords, bobs, just about anything you can imagine. all i would have to say is screw those people. not my fault your poor and cant afford cards, while people like myself have to suffer every time they print new crap like this.
How are you suffering if Wizards reprints staples? Sure their trade value goes down, but their play value doesn't decrease. And look at Goyf, they printed him in modern masters and all that happened was his price went up. I started playing magic in 93 and I would be excited if they would finally get rid of the reserved list and printed the ABUR lands and other staples like Gaea's Cradle and Show and Tell. I am not really worried if my underground Seas drops in money value from 200 a pop to whatever since I'll have more people I can finally play those cards with. As it stands it is hard to find people to play legacy. At the very least, things that produce mana should be removed from the reserved list and made more available. You can't compete if you don't have lands. There are a million competitive decks out there that are easy enough to acquire if spending 1000+ on lands wasn't an issue. So Mr. Wizards, please print away. Crush the value of my staples and bring competitive play to the masses. You have my support. -
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user-9163456 posted a message on The Language Food ChainPosted in: Market Street CaféQuote from Wind of Endless PlainsIs there a website or spreadsheet somewhere that lists what all languages every set has been printed in?
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Memnarch posted a message on Could you all please try to be a bit more socially acceptable?Unsurprisingly, we've veered well off-course from any amount of constructive posting, so I will go ahead and shutter this.Posted in: Magic General -
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Goldmane77 posted a message on Recent inflation/price increases concerning for non-rotating formatsPosted in: Magic GeneralQuote from BeardTronForgive me if this is a stupid question...Did Modern Masters really help the affordability of the format? Goyf, Bob, Cryptic Command, etc aren't any cheaper. My shop had such a limited supply that box pre orders were sold out within a day and by lunchtime of release there were no more packs for sale. And they didn't let one person buy the whole loot, there were limits so numerous people could be a part of it.
And my shop didn't even up charge but I imagine plenty doubled MSRP ...
I really don't know how this helped the affordability of competitive Modern play? Even for casual play, the set was so limited (and not often at MSRP) that it priced many casual folks out.
The reprinting of Thoughtseize in Theros certainly helped...but MM didn't appear to alleviate the financial constraint that some players are feeling trying to get into the format.
No, Modern Masters barely made a dent in Modern card prices. Wizards is and has always been paranoid of Chronicles (which I, along with most of current Magic players, were not even around at that time) that they kept the print run to be extremely limited. And Tarmogoyf's price has actually increased since Modern Masters barely increased supply while drastically increasing demand from people getting into the Modern format. I don't mind if my value cards tank. For instance, I own a playset of Snapcaster Mage, and I am okay with the value of that card going down to a couple of dollars, if that means Wizards has come to their senses and appeal to the players rather than the speculators and "investors." I personally think "investors" in Magic can go to hell. I buy cards to play this game, not to "invest." If you want to invest, that is what the stock market is for. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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If it was intentional and not an honest mistake, it's still cheating. Saying otherwise is like saying a pickpocket isn't a thief just because his target didn't notice his wallet was missing until he got home. The pickpocket is a thief one way or the other. Anyone intending to get away with making a bad play is cheating.
Now if it was an honest mistake and the opponent didn't catch it, then yeah, he's just kind of SOL.
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I hope so. And it's northern Asia. I'll squeal if we get full art snow-covered lands.
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I would say there is a middle ground though. It just requires creative solutions. Imagine this:
Every expansion has two subsets - "From the Aether" (FtA) and "From the Twisting Nether" (FTN)
They function a bit like "From the Vault" (FtV). They'd be composed entirely of reprints. FtA would be Modern format reprints and FTN would be Legacy format reprints. Each subset would consist of 20 cards each. If creative at WotC wants to, they could make up some silly tidbit to add into the storyline like they did with the "treasures" in Zendikar.
FtA would be 1:36 packs (1 per box) and FTN 1:216 packs (1 per case). This would limit the print runs to a couple dozen thousand cards per FtA inclusion and a few thousand per FTN copy. That's not going to come anywhere near to the original print runs, even for cards like dual lands.
This would have two benefits. The first would be to stabilize the prices (or at least flatten out their parabolic price curves). The second is it would boost sealed product values. They could put out a set as crappy as Homelands and distributors wouldn't get burned by secondary market prices falling below wholesale. For good sets the product would practically fly out of warehouses. And imagine if there were foil parallels to these subsets like for regular cards with 1:20 cards being replaced by a foil. The value of a foil Underground Sea that only had a few hundred copies printed would be astronomical; it'd be rarer than an Alpha Black Lotus.
If I can think that up in a few minutes, certainly teams of people who make a living creating and marketing Magic can do better.
True, but if incomes among the middle class and working poor had gone up, demand would have been stimulated and the increased goods produced to match it would have diluted the money supply. My point wasn't that QE doesn't create any inflation, only that they aren't in lockstep. If you look at the truly apocalyptic instances of hyperinflation (Weimar Germany, post-war Hungary, etc.), the inflation rate far exceeded that of the growth in money supply. At one point in Hungary the velocity of money was so great that the entire money supply was being turned over around ten times per day. That's never going to happen with Magic cards, because they're game pieces, not consumable necessities. And a doubling of supply wouldn't result in a halving of price as more people bought them to play the game.
To my last point, besides fresh demand from new players as the cards become more affordable, there would be additional incremental demand from existing players. I have three burn decks. I play a full set of Lightning Bolts and Chain Lightnings in each, but whereas I own 12 Lightning Bolts, I only own 4 Chain Lightnings. That's part of why Lightning Bolt is still over a dollar card despite having been printed as a common in four different heavily printed base sets as well as seeing additional printings in box sets, precons, ABU, and as promos. There has to be well over 10 million copies floating around. If every person that played them only had four they should be a dime or quarter card.
These two points strike right at the heart of the issue. Everquest is now a free to play game after being subscription for over a decade. That would be like a CCG going from being sold in booster packs, precons, etc. to box set only. Millions of people played EQ and now there's what, a few thousand on a couple of servers?
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The government is printing more money and distributing it via deficit spending, and they call it quantitative easing. In the past decade the money supply has doubled, yet there has only been ~25% inflation during that time period. No reasonable person expects WotC to hand out the best cards like candy. They're not a charity. But the notion that they somehow can't reprint cards in a reasonable quantity without obliterating their reputation, half the game shops in the country, and the entire game is ridiculous.
Bugatti makes around $100,000,000 per year in profit. Toyota makes roughly $10,000,000,000, or 100x as much. The gap between revenue is even greater. If WotC wants M:tG to remain a niche product, that's fine, no quarrel. But the opportunity exists for it to be much bigger, but if they don't make it reasonably accessible to a greater number of people it will be more like Bugatti - a luxury that a few people play with, but has no substantial standing in the marketplace. And in the broadest definition of the entertainment industry, Magic is tiny.
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My guess is this happened at shift change and someone didn't catch up with their machines in time.
Quality control has gotten better, which is why these sorts of things happen less frequently than in the past. I remember one guy getting a box of Revised that had 3 uncommons (with the occasional basic land) and 12 rares in each pack. These days the machines are probably programmed to just shut down in the event the supply of commons or uncommons available to it run out. Though in theory if everything but foil mythic rares ran out they could continue to produce 15 card packs of just those.
EDIT: Awesome finding that box by the way.
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You say your journey has been inspiring; please know seeing the three of you travel it with such grace and dignity is inspiring to others.
This as well.
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I take no joy in squashing dreams and hopes, but no, cryptocurrencies won't influence the world more than the internet. There is not necessarily a physical need to exchanging information. You tell a joke, I tell a joke, we laugh, and value is derived. For the exchange of money to be involved, there is always a physical component. That's where the "gatekeepers" insert themselves as middle-men.
Unless you know of a way how or a time when bitcoins, litecoins, or whatever can be used to buy aircraft carriers, fighter jets, and armored vehicles, the middle-men will remain. I'd even accept your argument if you could posit a plausible scenario in which you could clad a few thousand people in kevlar and arm them with tear gas and then somehow get them all to accept bitcoins in payment of salaries. For as long as I can foresee, those people will be paid with dollars derived from taxes. Crash the dollar and all those armed people suddenly can't pay the rent or buy food. If there's not enough dollars to pay them, it's because people are using bitcoin to evade their taxes, which will land you in prison quicker than murder or rape (I'm not making fun, that's just a sad fact). Most likely if bitcoin or something similar were ever to pose a material risk to vested interests, it would either be crushed or subverted.