They didn’t nerf the value.
They locked in the decks last November.
Last November Rekindling Phoenix was a $33 card. Now it’s a $20 card.
Last November History of Benalia was a $25 card. Now it’s an $11 card. And that deck has two of them.
If not for these two immense value shifts, which they could not predict (they don’t have perfect foresight of the meta to know if a card will fall out of favor or find a new home)... this generation of decks would actually have had a higher component value than last year’s decks did when they were announced.
There was no nerfing decision here. They aimed to put in 4 $25+ mythics. But because of the five month lead time those cards wound up not being worth nearly what they were worth when they finalized deck lists.
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Mar 18, 2019Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from dschumm »I suggest you look at the article and decklists from last year. Hazoret and Chandra in one, Triple Verderous Gearhulk in another, 4 Hear to Kiran in the Vehicle deck. This year is a joke by comparison.
Quote from RedGauntlet »Classic Wizard. They must have regreated that they added tons of value in last year's product so they downgraded this year. I'm suprised that they use mono blue tempo, since they rather rave the cheapest arvhtypes.
On reddit someone did the math and compared the value of the contents of these decks, to what was the value of the contents of last year's batch when it was announced. Last year has this year beat by about 3%. That's hardy the sky-is-falling stratospheric lowball scenario you'd expect was the case from replies like the above this thread. They're in the same ballpark. The loss in value is entirely accounted for by the loss in value of Rekindling Phoenix and History of Benalia in the months between when they locked in these decklists and today. Those are two deck-centerpiece mythics that have each lost more than $10/card since late last year (and there's TWO History of Benalia in one deck).
Of course time will tell how much the card prices hold. The market flood of Sulfur Falls will likely put a real ding in the value of each.
Mar 18, 2019Are we talking about someone reinventing an old combo kill? Or doing new things?Posted in: The Rumor Mill
One 'new' line of play that obv was never available in Fluctuator's time: Simian Spirit Guide or Chancellor of the Tangle would allow a T1 Fluctuator, then 3 or more now-free cycling cards would lead to several free Hollow Ones. Any better than the incumbent street wraiths + self-discard spells? Eh, probably not. But it's an example that illustrates there are a lot more possibilities to consider now than just what was 'the combo' then.
Even the fact that the deck can run a suite of cycling dual lands rather than the old one running mono-colored lands... indicates some increase in potential.
(I kinda wonder if the cycledeserts' prices will skyrocket if fluctuator is spoiled as present here).
Mar 17, 2019I wonder if they might make this limited format a variant of brawl, where each player has a planeswalker in command zone at game start. I mean every player in prerelease weekend will have at least 7 planeswalkers to choose from.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Mar 16, 2019If you’re considering red permanents you need to consider dropping aspect, whose utility is largely driven by a deck where all of its non land permanents boost it.Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
In a rg no aspect build, I have been taking a hard look at Zhur-Taa Goblin. Kalonian Tusker is a close-to-borderline card for us as is, and ZTG is a creature that you can choose whether it’s a tusker with avatar of the resolute synergy, or a slightly smaller hasty attacker (a sort of backup strangleroot, 2 power haste) when that is preferable.
As for Sarkhan, I’m not sure any 4 drop is ever great in this build. There’s a reason they tend to not stick around and people trend back towards 3-and-under lists.
Mar 13, 2019Posted in: The Rumor Mill
While the MTGO pricing being shown as $6.99 a pack seems to indicate a price point higher than they had in Conspiracy and Battlebond...
...you're replying to a bot that's just copypasting the first reply in this thread. Its only other post is also a copypaste of a post from earlier in that thread. It's not a real person.
Mar 10, 2019Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Raptorchan »Don't forget, the colors of walkers in this set will overlap their previous color identity with at least one color each
Out of curiosity has this been officially stated for this set, officially stated as a general rule for planeswalkers, or just seems so-likely-it-can-be-presumed based on precedent?
I would love to see them flip a planeswalker completely on his/her head. Hoping that when Elspeth returns she comes back mono-black. Or would be fascinating for an older walker to have been ‘brainwashed’ or ‘converted’ into an entirely different color set.
Mar 10, 2019Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from protoaddict »Make them common so I can use them in Pauper, then we are talkin...
Seriously how just ok would a walker like this be at common. 99% of the time it is just a more vulnerable version of Curse of the Pierced Heart.
+1: All opponents takes one damage
-6: Flame Slash
The big relevant difference from curse of the pierced heart... is that this would deal damage on your turn, not your opponents’.
For enabling Spectacle and Bloodthirst, that’s a *very* substantial difference.
Mar 10, 2019I mean we’ve been getting white versions for years now.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Black gets exile effects these days though. There was a time when it was usually ‘black destroys white exiles’. But current standard has infernal reckoning, necrotic wound, grotesque demise, reaver ambush, settle the score, and vraska’s contempt. And the also not-white Hostage Taker, which is exactly this sort of ‘exile by a permanent but can get reversed with permanent removal’ sort of effect.
Mar 5, 2019Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Dormammu »
Goblins is hard to save. It’s not much of a thing in Legacy anymore, right? I don’t follow Legacy closely, but I do look at tournament results from time to time and I haven’t seen much Merfolk or Goblins since Delver became a thing years ago. It’s just the better small creature agro-tempo plan and the same will be true in Modern, I assume.
Mar 4, 2019I had that hope too, but them saying 249 out of 254 cards are new to modern ... leads me to believe it’s just the normal basics. I don’t think they’re about to make *every* land a snow land in what doesn’t seem to be a snow-centric set...Posted in: The Rumor Mill
At least not if the packs keep the dedicated-land-slot format. Maybe if the set doesn’t have dedicated land slots at all, and the five snow lands are just peppered in as random commons?
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Oct 2, 2017Thanks for posting this. I've had this, uh, 'discussion' with a number of shops that had proposed to launch Pauper nights and I try to ask them "MTGO rules or actual-paper printed rarity", they go "Whatever, if it was ever a common it's good unless it's on the banlist, if it was bad it'd be on the banned list", I explain "Hymn and Sinkhole aren't on the MTGO banned list because they're not MTGO commons..." "Whatever, man. We'll see how it plays out." Yeah, I already know how this plays out.Posted in: Articles
I don't want to bring a deck with Hymns and get in arguments with the faction that thinks they're illegal in paper pauper (not on the MTGO pauper valids list). I don't want to bring a deck with Chainer's Edicts and get in arguments with the faction that thinks they're illegal in paper pauper (never printed as paper commons). I don't want to bring a deck that resists using either flavor of corner case and then face decks all evening that didn't hold themselves to the same deckbuilding restrictions. I want a show-runner who gives a damn enough to make it clear to all players what the cardpool is; ideally, I want the organization that handles all the other formats (including the online version of Pauper) to actually give a damn enough to codify a ruleset for paper pauper. But for some reason they never do.
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