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  • posted a message on Stompy
    Quote from Orcfood »
    That's right, sorry about that.

    Do you guys think a white splash is a worthwhile investment?

    Dromoka's Command in mainboard and Rest in Peace, Gaddock Teeg, Stony Silence, Selesnya Charm, Path to Exile and Knight of Autumn in sideboard for various matches.


    That's the build Amicdeep has been pushing in this thread for over a year now. That man loves his Dromoka's Commands.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Stompy
    Quote from Orcfood »
    Unfortunately, Green Sun’s Zenith is banned in modern.


    So is Glimpse of Nature. My post was in the context of the ongoing discussion started with the question "Would the deck run any banned cards if they were available? ".
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Stompy
    I imagine the deck would possibly give a hard look at Glimpse of Nature and Green Sun’s Zenith.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Stompy

    I would suggest "investing" these free Slots in some removal, which is missing completely - Dismember or even Prey Upon could do the Job here.


    Has Titanic Brawl supplanted Prey Upon for our purposes? Instant speed is very useful to make it an opponent's-turn or mid-combat trick, and we run lots of creatures that get +1/+1 counters and for those creatures it's as cheap as Prey Upon as well.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Academy Rector + Plunge into Darkness + Near-Death Experience // Necropotence + Near-Death Experience
    Q0: this is the rumor mill board, not for rules questions.

    Q1: No, Rector's triggered ability will only go on the stack after Plunge has completely finished resolving.

    Q2: Yes, your opponent's end step doesn't end until both player yield priority. You'll have the opportunity to activate necropotence as many times as you please after it enters the battlefield from Rector's trigger and before your opponent's turn ends. Likewise they'd have the opportunity to bolt you and finish you off.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on Challenger Decks 2019
    Quote from remathilis »
    Quote from remathilis »
    The white deck is an obvious combination of the precon pile you get in Arena and the Tier deck. They just didn't want to give value and that was that.

    They didn't build it, they just took the tier deck and stripped it down.


    The irony is that compared to the various decks they based it on, the way they stripped the value out is to remove the red/Boros elements (shocks, checks, Aurelia, Heroic Reinforcements, or Lava Coils). They could have stripped the red out if they kept some of the better rares, but replacing a Legion's Landing for a Hunted Witness? C'mon.

    The white deck is only good two histories and four marshals. Everything else is pennies on the dollar. The good news is that mono- decks should be cheap and everywhere as everyone chases the shock and archlight decks...


    What's the tier deck list, if you don't mind my asking? I have not been keeping up well with the lists, but I am looking for some inspiration.


    https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptgrn/top-8-decklists-2018-11-10

    The article links to the PTQ top 8 that inspired it: six red/white aggro decks, a jeskai control and an Izzet drakes. All played red to some degree, but the Challenger version is mono white so that the mana base is free. They could have used that to put in a playset of Benalia or Landing, but instead they cut cheap and as a result is the lowest estimated value of the four.


    But they locked in the deck contents in November. And in November, Benalia was a $25 card. Putting even the two of them in as they did would have made it solidly the second most valuable deck of the four, had the prices held up at all. The market has since severely devalued Benalia, but you can't in good faith attribute that to Wizards being cheap.

    On Nov 13, Landing was a $9 card, Benalia was a $25 card, and Marshal was a $3 card. Those eight cards alone were committing $80 in then-card-value to this deck. (edit: Tocatli Honor Guard was $3 as well, and there's two of them here)
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Stompy
    Nice. I’ve been theorycrafting a deck just like that for a while (I love psychotic fury) but I haven’t re-evaluated it since Glass of the Guildpact.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    I'm guessing they were probably worried of a scenario where one particular Pre-Con gets bought out for one particular card
    .

    I mean that is exactly what’s going to happen. And it’s what happened last year too. Even if they didn’t predict that History and Rekindling would have dropped as fast as they have ... they know Arclight is the prize. It has the double whammy of being standard legal for another over a year and having (at least for the time being) modern relevance.

    At least last year’s decks had a shift - the hazoret deck was the one to chase when it was standard legal but the counters deck proved to be the better deck for long term modern value. It looks like the Izzet deck will be the prize in the short, medium, and long term.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    It would be tough, because there would already be two sources of supply for people wanting to play that card (all the existing pre-modern versions of said card, most of which have been printed at least twice because the majority of rares from premodern that were only printed once are now on the reserved list) in addition to all the new supply this printing adds.

    The demand would have to be stratospheric for it to outpace what will already be a substantial supply.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    They didn’t nerf the value.

    They locked in the decks last November.

    Last November Rekindling Phoenix was a $33 card. Now it’s a $20 card.

    Last November History of Benalia was a $25 card. Now it’s an $11 card. And that deck has two of them.

    If not for these two immense value shifts, which they could not predict (they don’t have perfect foresight of the meta to know if a card will fall out of favor or find a new home)... this generation of decks would actually have had a higher component value than last year’s decks did when they were announced.

    There was no nerfing decision here. They aimed to put in 4 $25+ mythics. But because of the five month lead time those cards wound up not being worth nearly what they were worth when they finalized deck lists.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from dschumm »
    I suggest you look at the article and decklists from last year. Hazoret and Chandra in one, Triple Verderous Gearhulk in another, 4 Hear to Kiran in the Vehicle deck. This year is a joke by comparison.


    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    Classic Wizard. They must have regreated that they added tons of value in last year's product so they downgraded this year. I'm suprised that they use mono blue tempo, since they rather rave the cheapest arvhtypes.


    On reddit someone did the math and compared the value of the contents of these decks, to what was the value of the contents of last year's batch when it was announced. Last year has this year beat by about 3%. That's hardy the sky-is-falling stratospheric lowball scenario you'd expect was the case from replies like the above this thread. They're in the same ballpark. The loss in value is entirely accounted for by the loss in value of Rekindling Phoenix and History of Benalia in the months between when they locked in these decklists and today. Those are two deck-centerpiece mythics that have each lost more than $10/card since late last year (and there's TWO History of Benalia in one deck).

    Of course time will tell how much the card prices hold. The market flood of Sulfur Falls will likely put a real ding in the value of each.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    Are we talking about someone reinventing an old combo kill? Or doing new things?

    One 'new' line of play that obv was never available in Fluctuator's time: Simian Spirit Guide or Chancellor of the Tangle would allow a T1 Fluctuator, then 3 or more now-free cycling cards would lead to several free Hollow Ones. Any better than the incumbent street wraiths + self-discard spells? Eh, probably not. But it's an example that illustrates there are a lot more possibilities to consider now than just what was 'the combo' then.

    Even the fact that the deck can run a suite of cycling dual lands rather than the old one running mono-colored lands... indicates some increase in potential.

    (I kinda wonder if the cycledeserts' prices will skyrocket if fluctuator is spoiled as present here).
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    I wonder if they might make this limited format a variant of brawl, where each player has a planeswalker in command zone at game start. I mean every player in prerelease weekend will have at least 7 planeswalkers to choose from.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Stompy
    If you’re considering red permanents you need to consider dropping aspect, whose utility is largely driven by a deck where all of its non land permanents boost it.

    In a rg no aspect build, I have been taking a hard look at Zhur-Taa Goblin. Kalonian Tusker is a close-to-borderline card for us as is, and ZTG is a creature that you can choose whether it’s a tusker with avatar of the resolute synergy, or a slightly smaller hasty attacker (a sort of backup strangleroot, 2 power haste) when that is preferable.

    As for Sarkhan, I’m not sure any 4 drop is ever great in this build. There’s a reason they tend to not stick around and people trend back towards 3-and-under lists.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Quote from blackiyto »
    I just hope the packs aren't $9.99 each, but I bet they will be.


    Impossible the print run is gonna be no different to what they did with conspiracy and battlebond sets


    While the MTGO pricing being shown as $6.99 a pack seems to indicate a price point higher than they had in Conspiracy and Battlebond...

    ...you're replying to a bot that's just copypasting the first reply in this thread. Its only other post is also a copypaste of a post from earlier in that thread. It's not a real person.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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