That's the build Amicdeep has been pushing in this thread for over a year now. That man loves his Dromoka's Commands.
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Mar 21, 2019Posted in: Aggro & TempoQuote from Orcfood »Unfortunately, Green Sun’s Zenith is banned in modern.
So is Glimpse of Nature. My post was in the context of the ongoing discussion started with the question "Would the deck run any banned cards if they were available? ".
Mar 20, 2019Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
Has Titanic Brawl supplanted Prey Upon for our purposes? Instant speed is very useful to make it an opponent's-turn or mid-combat trick, and we run lots of creatures that get +1/+1 counters and for those creatures it's as cheap as Prey Upon as well.
Mar 20, 2019thatmarkguy posted a message on Academy Rector + Plunge into Darkness + Near-Death Experience // Necropotence + Near-Death ExperienceQ0: this is the rumor mill board, not for rules questions.Posted in: Magic Rulings
Q1: No, Rector's triggered ability will only go on the stack after Plunge has completely finished resolving.
Q2: Yes, your opponent's end step doesn't end until both player yield priority. You'll have the opportunity to activate necropotence as many times as you please after it enters the battlefield from Rector's trigger and before your opponent's turn ends. Likewise they'd have the opportunity to bolt you and finish you off.
Mar 19, 2019Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from remathilis »Quote from Fossil Firebird »Quote from remathilis »Quote from Drowsy Emperor »The white deck is an obvious combination of the precon pile you get in Arena and the Tier deck. They just didn't want to give value and that was that.
They didn't build it, they just took the tier deck and stripped it down.
The irony is that compared to the various decks they based it on, the way they stripped the value out is to remove the red/Boros elements (shocks, checks, Aurelia, Heroic Reinforcements, or Lava Coils). They could have stripped the red out if they kept some of the better rares, but replacing a Legion's Landing for a Hunted Witness? C'mon.
The white deck is only good two histories and four marshals. Everything else is pennies on the dollar. The good news is that mono- decks should be cheap and everywhere as everyone chases the shock and archlight decks...
What's the tier deck list, if you don't mind my asking? I have not been keeping up well with the lists, but I am looking for some inspiration.
The article links to the PTQ top 8 that inspired it: six red/white aggro decks, a jeskai control and an Izzet drakes. All played red to some degree, but the Challenger version is mono white so that the mana base is free. They could have used that to put in a playset of Benalia or Landing, but instead they cut cheap and as a result is the lowest estimated value of the four.
But they locked in the deck contents in November. And in November, Benalia was a $25 card. Putting even the two of them in as they did would have made it solidly the second most valuable deck of the four, had the prices held up at all. The market has since severely devalued Benalia, but you can't in good faith attribute that to Wizards being cheap.
On Nov 13, Landing was a $9 card, Benalia was a $25 card, and Marshal was a $3 card. Those eight cards alone were committing $80 in then-card-value to this deck. (edit: Tocatli Honor Guard was $3 as well, and there's two of them here)
Mar 19, 2019Posted in: The Rumor Mill
.Quote from Card Slinger J »I'm guessing they were probably worried of a scenario where one particular Pre-Con gets bought out for one particular card
I mean that is exactly what’s going to happen. And it’s what happened last year too. Even if they didn’t predict that History and Rekindling would have dropped as fast as they have ... they know Arclight is the prize. It has the double whammy of being standard legal for another over a year and having (at least for the time being) modern relevance.
At least last year’s decks had a shift - the hazoret deck was the one to chase when it was standard legal but the counters deck proved to be the better deck for long term modern value. It looks like the Izzet deck will be the prize in the short, medium, and long term.
Mar 18, 2019It would be tough, because there would already be two sources of supply for people wanting to play that card (all the existing pre-modern versions of said card, most of which have been printed at least twice because the majority of rares from premodern that were only printed once are now on the reserved list) in addition to all the new supply this printing adds.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
The demand would have to be stratospheric for it to outpace what will already be a substantial supply.
Mar 18, 2019They didn’t nerf the value.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
They locked in the decks last November.
Last November Rekindling Phoenix was a $33 card. Now it’s a $20 card.
Last November History of Benalia was a $25 card. Now it’s an $11 card. And that deck has two of them.
If not for these two immense value shifts, which they could not predict (they don’t have perfect foresight of the meta to know if a card will fall out of favor or find a new home)... this generation of decks would actually have had a higher component value than last year’s decks did when they were announced.
There was no nerfing decision here. They aimed to put in 4 $25+ mythics. But because of the five month lead time those cards wound up not being worth nearly what they were worth when they finalized deck lists.
Mar 18, 2019Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from dschumm »I suggest you look at the article and decklists from last year. Hazoret and Chandra in one, Triple Verderous Gearhulk in another, 4 Hear to Kiran in the Vehicle deck. This year is a joke by comparison.
Quote from RedGauntlet »Classic Wizard. They must have regreated that they added tons of value in last year's product so they downgraded this year. I'm suprised that they use mono blue tempo, since they rather rave the cheapest arvhtypes.
On reddit someone did the math and compared the value of the contents of these decks, to what was the value of the contents of last year's batch when it was announced. Last year has this year beat by about 3%. That's hardy the sky-is-falling stratospheric lowball scenario you'd expect was the case from replies like the above this thread. They're in the same ballpark. The loss in value is entirely accounted for by the loss in value of Rekindling Phoenix and History of Benalia in the months between when they locked in these decklists and today. Those are two deck-centerpiece mythics that have each lost more than $10/card since late last year (and there's TWO History of Benalia in one deck).
Of course time will tell how much the card prices hold. The market flood of Sulfur Falls will likely put a real ding in the value of each.
Mar 18, 2019Are we talking about someone reinventing an old combo kill? Or doing new things?Posted in: The Rumor Mill
One 'new' line of play that obv was never available in Fluctuator's time: Simian Spirit Guide or Chancellor of the Tangle would allow a T1 Fluctuator, then 3 or more now-free cycling cards would lead to several free Hollow Ones. Any better than the incumbent street wraiths + self-discard spells? Eh, probably not. But it's an example that illustrates there are a lot more possibilities to consider now than just what was 'the combo' then.
Even the fact that the deck can run a suite of cycling dual lands rather than the old one running mono-colored lands... indicates some increase in potential.
(I kinda wonder if the cycledeserts' prices will skyrocket if fluctuator is spoiled as present here).
Mar 17, 2019thatmarkguy posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease PackI wonder if they might make this limited format a variant of brawl, where each player has a planeswalker in command zone at game start. I mean every player in prerelease weekend will have at least 7 planeswalkers to choose from.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Mar 16, 2019If you’re considering red permanents you need to consider dropping aspect, whose utility is largely driven by a deck where all of its non land permanents boost it.Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
In a rg no aspect build, I have been taking a hard look at Zhur-Taa Goblin. Kalonian Tusker is a close-to-borderline card for us as is, and ZTG is a creature that you can choose whether it’s a tusker with avatar of the resolute synergy, or a slightly smaller hasty attacker (a sort of backup strangleroot, 2 power haste) when that is preferable.
As for Sarkhan, I’m not sure any 4 drop is ever great in this build. There’s a reason they tend to not stick around and people trend back towards 3-and-under lists.
Mar 13, 2019Posted in: The Rumor Mill
While the MTGO pricing being shown as $6.99 a pack seems to indicate a price point higher than they had in Conspiracy and Battlebond...
...you're replying to a bot that's just copypasting the first reply in this thread. Its only other post is also a copypaste of a post from earlier in that thread. It's not a real person.
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Oct 2, 2017Thanks for posting this. I've had this, uh, 'discussion' with a number of shops that had proposed to launch Pauper nights and I try to ask them "MTGO rules or actual-paper printed rarity", they go "Whatever, if it was ever a common it's good unless it's on the banlist, if it was bad it'd be on the banned list", I explain "Hymn and Sinkhole aren't on the MTGO banned list because they're not MTGO commons..." "Whatever, man. We'll see how it plays out." Yeah, I already know how this plays out.Posted in: Articles
I don't want to bring a deck with Hymns and get in arguments with the faction that thinks they're illegal in paper pauper (not on the MTGO pauper valids list). I don't want to bring a deck with Chainer's Edicts and get in arguments with the faction that thinks they're illegal in paper pauper (never printed as paper commons). I don't want to bring a deck that resists using either flavor of corner case and then face decks all evening that didn't hold themselves to the same deckbuilding restrictions. I want a show-runner who gives a damn enough to make it clear to all players what the cardpool is; ideally, I want the organization that handles all the other formats (including the online version of Pauper) to actually give a damn enough to codify a ruleset for paper pauper. But for some reason they never do.
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