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    posted a message on Raphael Levy's Loam Pox
    The thread is titled "Raphael Levy's Loam Pox". That is what this thread is about whether you want it to be or not.

    The development of a deck with smallpox AND loam.

    Any deck that isn't using loam and pox, does not belong in this thread. It's that simple.

    I have been playing Loam based strats on and off since the inception of Modern (used to play Loam back in old Extended, Astral Slide or 4/5c Sunburst Loam says hi ^^ ). Pox sucks Balls nowadays.

    That the thread went from a Loam focused deck which tried to utilise Pox towards a Loam focused deck which utilises Zombie Infestation (and other tools) due to the fact, that Pox sucks nowadays is just deck development. Nearly close to all decks have made those developments, especially when cards either got banned, unbanned or freshly printed. Did the respective decks names changed when changes got introduced? Sometimes yes and sometimes no.

    So, why does Pox suck nowadays? The majority of the metagame can just "ignore" it (it has no big influence, Titanshift, Lantern, Storm, Griselbrannd, GW Value Town, Company decks in general and many more), a lot of other decks it is a nuisance (Tron, Humans if they do not have a Vial start, Death Shadow,...) and there are only a few decks, where it is really good (and even there it is sometimes debatable).

    Of course, getting the wet dream of going turn 1 discard into turn 2 Pox killing a land and a creature into turn 4 a 3 CMC Planeswalker is good, but if you want to do such lines, than BW Pox is just better, cause they have the better Planeswalkers (3/4 CMC Gideon vs the 5 CMC Green Walkers) while also having way better Sideboard tools which makes them better in the post board games (BG sideboard cards kinda suck balls). Furthermore, they can play Lingering Souls, which is just bonkers with Souls.

    So yeah, there is currently just no reason, to play a BG Loam Pox deck, maybe a BWg version could pan out to incorporate the goddess of white while still having access to Loam, but I dread the manabase already (wanting BB on turn 2 and wanting WW on turn 3 *puke*) AND I kinda think, it would make the deck overall worse. Loam is never really good when you are "just" returning lands, you always want something to do with it. The only exception for this was Canadian Tresh in Legacy, where you played it in the SB for the Mirror, where you just needed that exact effect, getting lands back (Strip Mining the opponent who has only 7 mana sources in the deck with repeatable Wastelands thanks to Loam is pretty good).

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    Quote from pizzap »
    NBL Modern is a different format than Modern, so I don't think it has any use for predicting unbans.

    Exactly.

    As a NBL player and crafter, I get really mad on how bad most of the top 32 decks were designed. I'm also surprised that nobody played Tezzerator (arguably the strongest Control deck), Affinity(with Skullclamp, only one guy in day 2) and Dredge, however, I attribute this to the lack of knowledge about the format than anything else.

    Though, the deck BBD played is REALLY good (from a deck design perspective), it's Eldrazi match-up is really good.

    Also, something people need to realise about NBL Modern, the angst from Combo is an illusion, Control decks either play Chalice or Top + Counterbalance, the "Tempo" decks have enough disruption (be it Discard, Counters (MM, Spell Pierce, Leak), or hatebears (Thalia says hi)) and all other decks have either a combination of the last mentioned things, or can just race you.

    So yeah, for me it was expected that the metagame will look something like this, cause it is the "lazy" approach (people knew what is obviously good so they played, for the next layer they didn't want to invest enough time).

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on Grishoalbrand / Griselbrand Reanimator
    Got my old account back ^^

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Combo
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    posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the February 12, 2018 announcement?
    GDS, JDS, UW Control, Jeskai Control and BRw Pyro

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on Pro Tour Rivals of Ixalan Modern Discussion
    Quote from idSurge »
    What unban's are going to realistically improve this format, as shown by the PT though?

    Skullclamp /jk

    It purely depends on the respective player. Some would want Jace, Stoneforge and BBE, others would look at DTT, Dark Depths or Preordain.

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the February 12, 2018 announcement?
    Oh boy, you have no idea on how good 12 Post was before it got the Axe. While back than there was both the UW "Control" shell and the Gx one which did well (especially at the PT), both pale towards the version popping up post PT, pre banning: The Amulet of Vigor version.

    The deck did basically the same as the (now banned) Summer Bloom deck, heck, it even played Scapeshift to super accelerate. Why should I care about playing a turn 3 Karn if I instead can play a turn 4 old Ulamaog and/or a turn 4 old Emrakul. Both lines did the deck fairly consistent, it is (for the current "Modern standard") just gross.

    Here are some videos about that deck:
    Mono Green:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P6EEB5ofkY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2IpMYRRYX4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ti0Ck2uJPg

    GR Post:
    Deck tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5LK6jW0T0M
    Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1OiNSl86sE& - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtmSICRELBk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdyyzh7sgwg

    I rather get Karned on turn 3 and have a shot at winning that getting Emrakuled on turn 4...

    Greetings,
    Kathal

    PS: Also, it is way easier to interact with Tron lands than it is with Post lands. With Tron you just need to turn of a single one of them that they do not get any big mana of it, with Post you need to turn off all the Cloudposts.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the February 12, 2018 announcement?
    Pyromancer Ascension combo says hi (aka I loop Bolts till you are dead).

    Sure, the premier combo deck would vanish in its current form, but others would pick up steam, due to the shift of the metagame.

    Greetings,
    Kathal

    PS: Though, I would hate it, if they would ban anything in the format atm.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the February 12, 2018 announcement?
    Please keep in mind, that Modern is vastly different of Legacy and DTT got banned due to fundamentally different reasons in each formats AND they had also a very different power level in the respective formats, especially due to the different set-up tools (Probe, Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain,... vs Thought Scour, Probe and Serum Vision (nowadays without Probe ofc)).

    As previously said, if a card is banned in Legacy and in Modern, it is always within the context of the format. There is a reason, why DRS was garbage in Standard but the opposite in Legacy/Modern.

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the February 12, 2018 announcement?
    Playing DTT in GDS means, that you cannot really play any Delve creatures, which is HUGE for that deck, since it already has a rather low creature density. A Grixis version with a Green splash for Goyf could fix that problem, but the mana base will become really wonky because of this. Though, maybe a BUG Shadow could evolve from there, but this is purely theory atm.

    So while I can understand your concern about GDS, I'm more concerned about UW and Jeskai Stuff, since they can reap the full value out of DTT.

    Besides those three decks, the list of decks I mentioned is way longer. Delver is ***** tier atm, same with RUG Scapeshift. Both would benefit a lot from DTT to get back to at least playable tier.

    Hence, as I said previously, while I doubt that DTT will come back anytime soon, it would be something worth exploring in my opinion.

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the February 12, 2018 announcement?
    Please explain how DTT broke Legacy in half? Right, it didn't power up tier 2 or 3 decks (which it would do, if there was no UW/Jeskai stuff running around) but already an established Tier 1 deck in Omni Show and also Miracles. That the first one evolved to a rather interesting monster due to Dig is mainly based on the cantrips which are legal in Legacy.

    Otherwise, besides from the Grixis Delver decks, not many decks played that card or didn't "break" the format in any way. It was just two decks which were the problem...

    Could this happen in modern? Maybe, I have no idea. Is it realistically that it happens? Currently no due to how the current format functions.

    Greetings,
    Kathal
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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