Quote from cfusionpm »
I no longer care. Looting is an atrocity. And if they're going to look us in the face and tell us Looting is OK, then why in the living hell is Preordain banned?
Quote from SpeedGrapher »So this new mill deck wins either by dredge style creature rush or turbo mill. That means pillow port will have a spot light or turbo fog. Ghostly Prison and singleton main deck Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. That's so much fun. For those of you who have never thought of that as an anti-mill card, it's amazing. I play it in one of my decks all of the time. O and you're welcome. I only give you all the best SB cards solutions ever.
Quote from AvalonAurora »Blood Sun to get rid of the Lotus Field's drawback?
Quote from DaveJacinto »Not trying to play the devil's advocate but if we actually think about it, like idSurge said, most if not all of the decks use the graveyard in some way. Having hate for it, is it that "hateful"? Graveyard "hate" is "less" dead than creature removal since every player uses the graveyard because it's a part of the game and not all of the decks have creatures, like LeoTzu said.
Maybe this decks only looks this dumb because nobody wants to play MB GY hate and feels that they shouldn't but probably is the right way to go. As a UW Control Player it feels super bad when I'm paired against a mirror match and all I drew was Paths and Wipes and they have the walkers and the counters. Adding more potential blanks feels strange but I'm positive that probably this is the way forward. Modern has a lot going on for it that we all enjoy and love. It's the reason why I play it over Standard. It would be somewhat hypocritical if I said that I like Modern because there are a lot of weird and cool decks that play from strange angles but I don't want them to be any good because I'd have to play actual interaction for them.
Playing more with the Legacy analogy, if we actually think about it, Legacy is the "normal people" format where the real busted stuff can happen. Larger card pool meaning more dumb stuff... But playing it feels really good. At least I always enjoyed it a lot. Most of that was due to FoW and its role. If Surgical or GY Hate does this in Modern, the degenerate decks will have to settle down on the dumbness and be more down to earth. It will make for more interesting games because you're not just free to do your goldfish because there's the real risk of the losing the game on the spot if you overextend into the GY hate. This all would result in the format slowing down a lot and making for more compelling gameplay.
Quote from The Fluff »Thanks for the information kathal.
Which one should be pithing needle'd first. The feeder or the altar?
Quote from pierrebai »IIUC, the deck merely needs a 1-mana self-sac creature and a way to fill the GY (looting + dredge), as the deck functions off having two bridge from below and a hogaak in the GY? The deck seems to require to have turn 1 or 2 GY hate, which probably means a lot of first-game wins.
The question is not if the deck can be countered, but how much metagame warping happens due to it forcing player to maindeck GY hate.
Quote from cfusionpm »
I am attacking the design space because it is often the main justification for Stoneforge, and was a justification for Pod. I honestly was not around much when Pod was legal, so I don't really know specifics or player feelings, just that "design space" was often a talking point, in addition to its dominance.
Quote from Amerigo99 »Where is Wild Growth? T_T
Why only 2 swords?
Why only opposing colors horizon lands?