I concur. I defeated a Jeskai Ascendency deck multiple times playtesting at the GP. I managed to acquire two Bobs while there, as well.
I currently run no Lilis. My meta has no need.
What are your thoughts on sideboarding anger of the gods for zoo and pod and Mindbreak Trap for storm decks?
Hope I'm not beating on any horses by appearing in this thread, considering it's last post was in June and I'm fairly new to these forums.
I've been playing DDFT for a few years, albeit in no tournaments (no budget to finish the land base), and one recent addition to the deck has served me well. Act on Impulse. I currently run it as a one of in the sideboard, but I'm debating running one in the main as well due to it's interaction with LED. It has already assisted me in constructing a pass the turn pile that should have been impossible otherwise, and I've noticed many occasions where a mainboard could have assisted in piles.
I am nowhere as experienced in the deck as most of the posters in this thread, so I wanted to ask for assistance and thoughts. For one, what do you think of Act on Impulse in DDFT? Also, what's the primary purpose of rain of filth? I've used it occasionally as a fifth ritual, but it seems otherwise dangerous.
Alright, thanks for the insight. I guess I need to acquire a playset of Bobs now. May need to break my set of judge lands.
I avoid Snapcaster because, in my current build, I run delve spells (until I acquire Bobs) which is counterintuitive to snapcaster. In parallel with my already high creature count (12) and I want to avoid running more.
One detail of note, my meta has a high affinity concentration. Approximately 3/5 of the players here run it. To this note, I'd like to structure my maindeck in order to handle them (currently maining doomblade over go for the throat for this reason). Are there any adaptations I should change to the main that won't be dead against non-affinity, but will be powerful against the robots? I currently need to obtain Inquisition so I can move my Thoughtseizes into the sideboard.
So, I constructed a grixis control list for standard and wanted to build a tempo build for modern (my previous modern decks were waning in interest) to gain access to monastery swiftspear and realized Delver was the best option. I constructed a rough list to apply as a basis and decided to check the forums for better insight. I was surprised to find grixis delver was actually somewhat popular, considering the modern meta.
Anyway, what are the general thoughts on running young pyromancer and running treasure cruise over bob (I also like the name Grixis Delver Cruise)? My current list runs 12 creatures. 4 swiftspear, pyromancer, and delver. I run 3 cruises and 3 murderous cuts, but the cuts may move to sideboard if the delve proves too stressful on the graveyard.
Just killed my friend with a Dryad Arbor and felt like stopping by to say hi.
So far, I've tested the scrylands, to minor success; realm seekers, to massive success; and aggressive mining, to no success at all (the downside doesn't effect too much, it just doesn't do much in comparison to the rest of the deck).
I will say, tower of the magistrate has really prove it's worth to the point that I question why it's not an edh staple. I think you should run it.
As for Khans, I think it's worth running phyrexia's core in parallel with Ugin's Nexus. I already run phyrexia's core with ring of three wishes, so not much change here.
I'm slowly dropping my manlands for better things. They come in handy sometimes, but not enough.
Just dropped manabond for Darksteel Ingot, Mycosynth Lattice for Demonic Tutor (finally got one), Ghost Town for Sacred Ground, and Seismic Assault for Ad Nauseum.
Wow... Ad Nauseum is so good.
Now I need to go in and reconfigure my basic land base.
Also, I'd recommend Tower of the Magistrate. It helps with those pesky equipment decks. Heck, it stops Swiftfoot and Greaves.
Gift is just superior to Corpse Dance I feel like, except I cant use it at instant speed (which has never come up anyway, most of the time I get Corpse Dance i use it once and that's it, however, this requires child be in play. It needs testing is all)
Mystic Remora for more card draw. I'm getting my lands into play just fine.
Rites is out for Eviction, as more removal is needed as we go forward. I want to put All is Dust in it's place.
I also would like to get ahold of the new planeswalker, and Crystal Quarry
I agree with outing the manabond and corpse dance. Rites is really just meta based on if it stays or not.
I think there are better draw spells then Mystic. The cumulative upkeep hurts, I feel. Gift of Immortality just doesn't fit the deck at all, to be honest. It's a dead draw at any time other than when you need to nuke your general constantly, which rarely happens.
Eviction vs All is Dust is another meta based argument. I, personally run both because they do different things entirely and can get around difficult to remove permanents.
I wanna test out Kiora. Gonna wait, though, until she drops in price. The biggest problem I feel is that she has a +1 instead of a +2. I'd rather it be like baby Jace where the + lets you - for the next two turns.
I definitely want an all is dust in here like you have. Also, false prophet is really tech with high market.
I was actually thinking of pull out False Prophet because of Merciless Eviction's versatile nature. And the double white does hinder when my mana isn't finished fixing. Although, Prophet is the last to come out, most likely. First to come out will probably be the Mycosynth Lattice (was in for mana fixing. Didn't realize the combo with Merciless Eviction until it was Spelltwined against me) and Seismic Assault (tri red is way too painful when I don't have the fixing).
I'll probably pull out the Lattice for a Darksteel Ingot when I get back home.
Also, I would HIGHLY recommend Phyrexian Tower. Not only does it get around Split Second, but it combos with Volrath's Stronghold for reclaiming the creature (most likely your Child).
Hello there. I'm Epoa from GatheringMagic. I've been a lurker on these boards for quite some time now and noticed your sig from a Doomsday thread. I had the same idea for this type of deck some time back and built my own vision of it.
I decided it was time to make an account to share deck lists with you and thoughts on it. I never thought of adding Ad Nauseam and never heard of Sacred Ground when I was doing my research. Thank you!
I currently run no Lilis. My meta has no need.
What are your thoughts on sideboarding anger of the gods for zoo and pod and Mindbreak Trap for storm decks?
I've been playing DDFT for a few years, albeit in no tournaments (no budget to finish the land base), and one recent addition to the deck has served me well. Act on Impulse. I currently run it as a one of in the sideboard, but I'm debating running one in the main as well due to it's interaction with LED. It has already assisted me in constructing a pass the turn pile that should have been impossible otherwise, and I've noticed many occasions where a mainboard could have assisted in piles.
I am nowhere as experienced in the deck as most of the posters in this thread, so I wanted to ask for assistance and thoughts. For one, what do you think of Act on Impulse in DDFT? Also, what's the primary purpose of rain of filth? I've used it occasionally as a fifth ritual, but it seems otherwise dangerous.
What direct damage spells would you recommend? I run 4 Lightning Bolt and 2 forked bolt currently.
I avoid Snapcaster because, in my current build, I run delve spells (until I acquire Bobs) which is counterintuitive to snapcaster. In parallel with my already high creature count (12) and I want to avoid running more.
One detail of note, my meta has a high affinity concentration. Approximately 3/5 of the players here run it. To this note, I'd like to structure my maindeck in order to handle them (currently maining doomblade over go for the throat for this reason). Are there any adaptations I should change to the main that won't be dead against non-affinity, but will be powerful against the robots? I currently need to obtain Inquisition so I can move my Thoughtseizes into the sideboard.
I'm a black player at heart. I can't not play it.
Also, there's Thoughtseize and Murderous Cut/various killspells.
So, I constructed a grixis control list for standard and wanted to build a tempo build for modern (my previous modern decks were waning in interest) to gain access to monastery swiftspear and realized Delver was the best option. I constructed a rough list to apply as a basis and decided to check the forums for better insight. I was surprised to find grixis delver was actually somewhat popular, considering the modern meta.
Anyway, what are the general thoughts on running young pyromancer and running treasure cruise over bob (I also like the name Grixis Delver Cruise)? My current list runs 12 creatures. 4 swiftspear, pyromancer, and delver. I run 3 cruises and 3 murderous cuts, but the cuts may move to sideboard if the delve proves too stressful on the graveyard.
So far, I've tested the scrylands, to minor success; realm seekers, to massive success; and aggressive mining, to no success at all (the downside doesn't effect too much, it just doesn't do much in comparison to the rest of the deck).
I will say, tower of the magistrate has really prove it's worth to the point that I question why it's not an edh staple. I think you should run it.
As for Khans, I think it's worth running phyrexia's core in parallel with Ugin's Nexus. I already run phyrexia's core with ring of three wishes, so not much change here.
Just dropped manabond for Darksteel Ingot, Mycosynth Lattice for Demonic Tutor (finally got one), Ghost Town for Sacred Ground, and Seismic Assault for Ad Nauseum.
Wow... Ad Nauseum is so good.
Now I need to go in and reconfigure my basic land base.
Also, I'd recommend Tower of the Magistrate. It helps with those pesky equipment decks. Heck, it stops Swiftfoot and Greaves.
I agree with outing the manabond and corpse dance. Rites is really just meta based on if it stays or not.
I think there are better draw spells then Mystic. The cumulative upkeep hurts, I feel. Gift of Immortality just doesn't fit the deck at all, to be honest. It's a dead draw at any time other than when you need to nuke your general constantly, which rarely happens.
Eviction vs All is Dust is another meta based argument. I, personally run both because they do different things entirely and can get around difficult to remove permanents.
I wanna test out Kiora. Gonna wait, though, until she drops in price. The biggest problem I feel is that she has a +1 instead of a +2. I'd rather it be like baby Jace where the + lets you - for the next two turns.
I was actually thinking of pull out False Prophet because of Merciless Eviction's versatile nature. And the double white does hinder when my mana isn't finished fixing. Although, Prophet is the last to come out, most likely. First to come out will probably be the Mycosynth Lattice (was in for mana fixing. Didn't realize the combo with Merciless Eviction until it was Spelltwined against me) and Seismic Assault (tri red is way too painful when I don't have the fixing).
I'll probably pull out the Lattice for a Darksteel Ingot when I get back home.
Also, I would HIGHLY recommend Phyrexian Tower. Not only does it get around Split Second, but it combos with Volrath's Stronghold for reclaiming the creature (most likely your Child).
http://www.gatheringmagic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=36995
I decided it was time to make an account to share deck lists with you and thoughts on it. I never thought of adding Ad Nauseam and never heard of Sacred Ground when I was doing my research. Thank you!