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Treasure Cruisin' Shalai Brawl
 
Ravnica: The Broken Guildpact
  • posted a message on Full spoiler is up
    Quote from RxPhantom »
    The artwork isn't my cup of tea either, but to say it's "SJW" is kind of weird, especially when the set's walkers could be the poster children for the Hitler Youth. Further, it's kind of lame to make a claim and support it with absolutely nothing.


    I say the problem for him is Pir. Junevile AND black. So, apparently, because of that, the entire set became a "SJW" fan service.

    Obviously I'm just guessing, but that was the first thing that come up to mind.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Prototype Coin-Flipping with Zndrsplt & Okaun
    Most of them are really bad cards. I would give a chance to just Molten Birth
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Full spoiler is up
    You proved my point exactly. You don't want to listen to what I have to say and you don't feel I have a right to hold that opinion as well. There is no sense arguing it.


    The problem is that you didn't even said in the first place what you meant for "SJW" art. It's almost like you are ashamed of your own opinions. Which makes people think because of this behavior that if you don't want to explicitly say what you mean for "SJW art" (but yet still complaining pubicly for SJW art), that you prefer to keep the ambiguity because you don't want to sounds like, let's say racist for example, and exposing yourself as one.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Prototype Coin-Flipping with Zndrsplt & Okaun
    Okay, thanks, I read better. Sorry I misread the card like that’s never happened in the history of Magic ever.


    I think that's a bit overreacting, I was just pointing out to read again because you (evidently) missed something lol
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Prototype Coin-Flipping with Zndrsplt & Okaun
    Stitch in Time seems like a dead card in your hand (other than flipping a coin once for 3 mana) if you have Stanglehold out. I understand the other effect of Stranglehold, but just a consideration worth noting.


    Read better: Stranglehold hoses only opponents, not you. It's not a symmetric card.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Full spoiler is up
    The set is one of the best set even printed imho. Ever


    You and I are polar opposites. I feel it is one of the worst sets ever printed. Something tells me it probably falls between the two.


    Homelands vs Battlebonds. Now that's a tough battle Grin
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Prototype Coin-Flipping with Zndrsplt & Okaun
    Also I can't see anyone ever taking Game of Chaos beyond the first round if I have my commander in play.


    The optimal way to play it in fact is to have also the Thumbs on play....and a bit of luck for some juicy card draw Grin
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Prototype Coin-Flipping with Zndrsplt & Okaun
    You should try Game of Chaos, sounds hilarious.

    Goblin Bomb seems another one very fitting for the deck.


    and last but not least can not play without Mr. Coinflips Ral Zarek


    Unfortunately Ral ultimate doesn't interact at all with your generals. It will works good with the Krark's Thumb though.



    If your playgroup is cool with it, I would try some uncards like Goblin Bookie and Mana Screw as well. Grin
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on O_O MYCOSNTH LATTICE!!!
    Can someone tell me what you can use this card for?

    I remember when it was first spoiled many, many years ago and no one wanted the card because it didn’t do anything.

    What does it do, now?


    Blow everything opponent controls with Vandalblast
    Even better, steal everything with Hellkite Tyrant
    Once again, blow everything only opponent controls with Darksteel Forge+Nevynirral Disk (Arcum Dagsson makes this task trivially easy)
    Use just everthing as a sac-engine with Breya, Etherium Shaper

    Artifacts decks are very powerful in EDH. Arcum, Breya, Daretti, Muzzio, Karn, Sydri....there's just so many artifact generals that would love to use this card.
    The power of this card is subtle, since it doesn't do anything alone, but efficent. It's a great combo piece.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on O_O MYCOSNTH LATTICE!!!
    WotC manage to make a set that nobody of mtgsalvation complains about power level and values even when cards got rarity upshifted (like in this case). On a new and uncertain terrain like exploring a casual format with new cards. They really did the miracle.


    Whoever is the team that realize Battlebond, i feel is not paid enough for this Grin
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on O_O MYCOSNTH LATTICE!!!
    This set should really had named: "Commander Reprints Ultimate : this time is personal."
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Regna's Sanction
    If Angel and Demon lovers, a very strong trope


    It is not a very strong trope. Is just a modern trope, like the yaoi fantasies of many anime/manga heroes that are canonically straight, but since girls love to make gay couples, are a thing anyway.

    Anyway, until I find a very convincing story about those 2, this love thing about the couple will remain kinda dumb, gratuitious and shallow to me....Can we end this? It's like 8-9 hours, if not even more, that you are bothering me in this thread already. Thank you.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Regna's Sanction
    Right, Kraken, good one. But those are the exceptions (and anyways, that's an original WotC idea, I don't recall any TV series on greek mythology with Krakens). One could argue Krakens could be a stretch based on the monsters of Scylla and Carybdis. Anyway, it's clear that for most part, WotC tried to stay true and coherent to actual ancient greek tropes based on the Iliad and Odissey of Homer's and other traditions. For example:
    Curse of the Swine - a direct reference of Circe that transform to pigs Ulysses mens.
    King Macar, the Gold-Cursed - clearly King Midas with his gold touch curse.
    Purphoros, God of the Forge - Based on Ephestus (actually most of the Gods are based on already existing greek Gods...Erebos even got the same name).
    Titan of Eternal Fire - Prometheus
    Bearer of the Heavens - obviously Atlas


    You see? That's what I'm talking about. WotC respecting the ancient myth tropes even if it making their own way. That's what I like. The same I ask for Angels and Demons (at least when they are clearly and obviously inspired from christian culture and not other ones, like in the Rakshasa exceptions). And they actually respect the christian archetipical figures most of the times. I just said that this case in particular feel kinda dumb to me. And shallow in the context.


    I mean I’m quite comfortable saying demons are capable of being good, and I know others who share that belief, so you’re not very accurate when you go “nobody”.


    I meant to imply "No catholics" in that passage.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Regna's Sanction
    Xeru:
    Yet Theros does not conform to Greek Mythology, it conforms to tropes around Greek Mythology. If we hold the same true for Angels and Demons... why, suddenly it’s as if the endless tedium on if it’s in the Bible is irrelevant and we can just go back to TVTropes.


    But the tropes of greek mythology all comes from the actual stories of greek mythology. Can you please tell me how many are the tropes that comes exclusively from "TV series" and are not present at all in the greek myths? Because in Theros, for every example you can kind (if you can find any), I could tell you five that comes directly from ancient greek authors and traditions.

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Regna's Sanction
    It's not until much later that you see depictions of devils with horns and cloven hooves (or anything we'd attribute to a demon in the modern sense).


    Dude you claimed that is not until Dante or the middle-ages Grimoires that christianity depict Satan and fallen angels with horns or other bestial attributes. But that's wrong, since we got demonic iconography that shows the bestiality of Satan much more earlier than both Dante and the Grimoires. Please look for example at how is depicted the Devil in the Coppo di Marcovaldo, the Last Judgment of the Baptistery of Florence.


    The modern Christian understanding of demonic appearances didn't come about until the advent of demonology (those books of magic you dislike),


    Wrong dude. I just mentioned you a demonic iconography that is far more older than any Grimoires of the XVII-XVIII century you quoted here.

    Also, wrong twice. I love demonology and grimoires (guess what's, that's why I call myself as a "demonolog" as a nickname here), but exactly because I studied them, I know perfectly of what I'm talking about...the same we can't say for you.

    2nd Corinthians 11:14 even claims that Satan appears in the form of an angel of light.


    Oh please, don't use that verse. Paul is just saying here that even the devil can disguise as a celestial creature, but that doesn't mean, that here it wants to say is its true form, it's implicit the contrary actually. In Apocalypse Satana is depicted as a red dragon and that's pretty much close of a demonic/bestiality form of Satan.


    . Going strictly off the Bible, one hardly gets any mention of what could be considered Hell


    In the new testament seems pretty clear the idea of hell, which pretty much matches of what is our modern idea of hell. The christians demoninations that don't believe in a hell are actually veeery few, like Jeova Witnesses, and they have lot of other crazy doctrines that makes them pretty weird in the "christian galaxy" (they believe Christ and Archangel Michael are the same being for example, not to mention the blood stuff).


    Good to know that what people claim to believe has nothing to do with their actual beliefs.


    What? Dude, nobody today claim to believe that demons can have redemption. If you ask on a true catholic, he will tell you that the only things that matter are the catechism, the bible, the ecumenical councils, the dogmas. Those are the relevant stuff. Tommorrow, the Pope could send an atomic bomb, and that would change absolutely nothing for christian faith, since from a cathoclic veiwpoint is important the spiritual teachings that binds the catholic faith in very precise ways, and not any random action a Pope or believers could do in any historical moments.


    Once again, why are you talking on a subject that you clearly have no clue about?


    You don't get to exclude them because they didn't fit your particular mould of Catholocism.


    Dude, is not "mine" particular view. It's what Catholic officially believed and still believe today, even if ask to the Pope itself.
    See the Catholic Cathechism at 392-393 of this paragraph
    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p7.htm



    Decadent Dreed
    But you insist that for example, demons cannot be redeemed because of your understanding of Judeo-Christian religions.


    Well, it's like taking off from a Gorgon the head of snakes and the stonemaking glare. What kind of Gorgon would be that? If you redeem a demon, what remains left of the demon nature and appareance? It's not following strictly the myth or religion, but here are missing the basic tropes that let you recognize clearly something as a demon or a gorgon. It's not good for me. Why we have to make over 4 pages of discussion just for this?

    Pointing out that you never said the magic words, "Angels and demons in Magic must conform to judeo-christian religion" is making a distinction without a difference.


    Dude, I clearly said that there's lot of things that MtG doesn't follow with biblical lore (nature of the angels, absence of a deity they serve, etc.) and I said that I'm fine with that and with tropes respected like Theros did (or Innistrad, for the same matter), so stop saying that I don't make a difference, because we both knows that's not truth.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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