Can't go wrong following the advice the others have given. I'd definitely lose a Reej and a Chalice for 2 Cliques.
Then it's a matter of whether you want to keep your 2 Dazes or not. I personally think they're a necessary evil, and having 2 of them is optimal. If you decide to keep them, I'd up the Wastelands to at least 2, since they really help with the tempo loss that comes with Daze.
I'm trying to stick with mono blue on Omnitell, I can't afford duals. I need something to deal with multiple creatures threats (Thalia, Canonist, Meddling Mage, ...) on my sideboard, like Pyroclasm does. The only cards I know are:
- Engineered Explosives (not too bad)
- Evacuation (Slow, but can be tutored with Cunning Wish and be used eot of the opponent)
- Polymorphist's Jest (Evacuation is better imo)
- Ratchet Bomb (slow)
Is there any other good option guys? Btw, my decklist (3 sideboard slots are free).
Hey spooky, what about Omnitell? What do you think about it? They have a mono blue version (no dual needed in this case) and, besides the FoW, you can do it in a low/mid budget. Here is an example.
I might consider running 1-2 Intuition without Brainstorm and fetches. From what I recall omni-show generally runs a full playset of all Brainstorm, Ponder, and Preordain. You have way too many lands in your deck for all the cantrips you have.. you are probably getting flooded way too often.
What I would do (however Intuition also costs more than the cheap blue fetches a la Flooded Strand/Delta):
I'm trying to build an Omnitell deck, but I still don't have blue fetches and I wont have money for it for a while. Brainstorm is really underpowered with no fetches and my sb is still missing cards. What do you suggest me to get more consistency in this deck?
Do you think Cosi's Trickster deserves a place in maindeck? What about replacing Aether Vial with Chalice of the Void? What do you think about this list (based on yours):
I'm testing your Combo Elves deck and Burn is giving me a lot of trouble to handle. They burn my mana good generator elves (titania, heritage, ...) to slowdown my deck and use Eidolon to lockup glimpse combo. What do you suggest?
Take a look here. There are some budget Elves deck in this topic, you can use one of them to make your first step into Legacy. And then, if you want to keep playing elves and invest more money, basically, you just have to buy 4x Gaea's Cradle, 4x Natural Order, 8-10 fetches, 4x Deathrite Shaman and a good sideboard.
After searching for some ideas for my deck, I've did this list, ordered by price, from some competitive/semi-competitive budget Combo Elves decks over the Internet. Those decks seems to be solid (for a budget deck), can be used by people who can't afford Gaea's Cradle, fetchalds or Natural Order. Here goes the list:
Hey Spooky. I've been trying to do a good combo elves deck, but I can't afford fetches and Natural Card. I was checking your suggested decklist for it:
I've put Reclamation sage on maindeck. I'm thinking about removing forests to put one or two more Crop Rotation. I also have an Emrakul here. For now I can't aford fetches or Natural order. I still don't know what to do.
Using just 16 lands, you can count only with one mana sometimes. Tolarian Windws is not an option imo, you will have to discard good cards to get more cards, maybe lands or cards that you don't want. In my humble opinion, Careful Study is the best card for this role.
@shinbatsu, may I give an advice? Why don't we start a new topic for the next rotation decks? There are so many people interested in "rotation safe decks", maybe it's the time to we start a new topic for it. Btw, this topic is awesome, I own 3 decks from here and they are great
It's incredible how Eidolon changed this deck, I could win at turn three most of times against a $800 Elves Combo deck. It's incredible how three cards changes everything.
I have been working on this deck for 3 years and I feel it is nearly perfected. It can regularly beat tier 1 decks (which I have extensively tested it against). If you are looking for a reasonably strong deck and Burn is just out of your budget, I suggest you give this $50 deck (with sideboard) a try. I had a first time Legacy player who had just started Magic 2 months earlier achieve a positive record at a Grand Prix with it.
- Engineered Explosives (not too bad)
- Evacuation (Slow, but can be tutored with Cunning Wish and be used eot of the opponent)
- Polymorphist's Jest (Evacuation is better imo)
- Ratchet Bomb (slow)
Is there any other good option guys? Btw, my decklist (3 sideboard slots are free).
4 Force of Will
3 Cunning Wish
4 Dig Through Time
4 Brainstorm
4 Show and Tell
4 Ponder
4 Omniscience
7 Island
4 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand
3 Ancient Tomb
4 Preordain
1 Intuition
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Spell Pierce
1 Impulse
About the lands number, I think 19 is the safest number. I'm trying 18 + 1 Lotus Petal and sometimes I don't find the third land somehow.
I'm trying to build an Omnitell deck, but I still don't have blue fetches and I wont have money for it for a while. Brainstorm is really underpowered with no fetches and my sb is still missing cards. What do you suggest me to get more consistency in this deck?
3 Ancient Tomb
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Show and Tell
4 Force of Will
4 Cunning Wish
4 Omniscience
2 Crystal Vein
4 Dig Through Time
3 Daze
4 Brainstorm
1 Impulse
4 Gitaxian Probe
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Rushing River
1 Eladamri's Call
1 Noxious Revival
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Firemind's Foresight
1 Release the Ants
1 Sapphire Charm
2 Defense Grid
1 Stifle
1 Spell Pierce
4 Cursecatcher
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Master of the Pearl Trident
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Silvergill Adept
2 Sygg, River Cutthroat
4 True-Name Nemesis
3 Chalice of the Void
4 Force of Will
1 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Cavern of Souls
2 Mishra's Factory
4 Mutavault
Do you think Cosi's Trickster deserves a place in maindeck? What about replacing Aether Vial with Chalice of the Void? What do you think about this list (based on yours):
4 Cursecatcher
4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Master of the Pearl Trident
3 Merrow Reejerey
3 Phantasmal Image
4 Silvergill Adept
1 True-Name Nemesis
3 Counterspell
3 Daze
3 Spell Pierce
2 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Quirion Ranger
2 Llanowar Elves
4 Heritage Druid
1 Priest of Titania
3 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Birchlore Rangers
1 Viridian Shaman
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
2 Elvish Mystic
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Glimpse of Nature
13 Forest
1 Qasali Pridemage
3 Elvish Archdruid
1 Viridian Shaman
3 Faerie Macabre
2 Sylvan Safekeeper
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Dismember
2 Gaddock Teeg
3 Quirion Ranger
4 Llanowar Elves
1 Elvish Archdruid
1 Birchlore Rangers
2 Priest of Titania
4 Heritage Druid
4 Elvish Visionary
1 Viridian Shaman
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
2 Elvish Mystic
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 Summoner's Pact
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Glimpse of Nature
14 Forest
1 Pendelhaven
3 Tormod's Crypt
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Mortarpod
1 Viridian Zealot
2 Krosan Grip
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Mindbreak Trap
3 Quirion Ranger
4 Llanowar Elves
1 Elvish Archdruid
1 Birchlore Rangers
1 Fyndhorn Elves
2 Priest of Titania
4 Heritage Druid
4 Elvish Visionary
1 Viridian Shaman
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Elvish Mystic
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 Summoner's Pact
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Glimpse of Nature
14 Forest
1 Pendelhaven
3 Tormod's Crypt
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Mortarpod
1 Viridian Zealot
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Krosan Grip
2 Mindbreak Trap
4 Heritage Druid
1 Llanowar Elves
4 Priest of Titania
4 Birchlore Rangers
1 Viridian Shaman
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
2 Craterhoof Behemoth
2 Dryad Arbor
1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
4 Glimpse of Nature
1 Genesis Wave
2 Natural Order
4 Green Sun's Zenith
14 Forest
4 Pithing Needle
1 Angel of Despair
1 Qasali Pridemage
2 Ashen Rider
2 Mindbreak Trap
1 Progenitus
1 Gaddock Teeg
3 Wirewood Hivemaster
2 Quirion Ranger
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Birchlore Rangers
1 Priest of Titania
4 Heritage Druid
2 Elvish Archdruid
1 Elvish Visionary
3 Joraga Warcaller
4 Nettle Sentinel
1 Viridian Zealot
4 Wirewood Symbiote
3 Chord of Calling
1 Summoner's Pact
4 Glimpse of Nature
1 Grapeshot
2 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Pendelhaven
3 Staff of Domination
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Elvish Archdruid
1 Priest of Titania
1 Choke
1 Noxious Revival
1 Beast Within
2 Krosan Grip
1 Mindbreak Trap
2 Fyndhorn Elves
2 Llanowar Elves
4 Heritage Druid
4 Priest of Titania
2 Birchlore Rangers
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
2 Elvish Mystic
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Progenitus
4 Natural Order
4 Glimpse of Nature
14 Forest
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
1 Viridian Shaman
1 Faerie Macabre
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Scavenging Ooze
4 Steely Resolve
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
3 Quirion Ranger
4 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Birchlore Rangers
4 Priest of Titania
4 Heritage Druid
2 Llanowar Elves
1 Viridian Shaman
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Summoner's Pact
1 Chord of Calling
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Glimpse of Nature
14 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Pithing Needle
1 Relic of Progenitus
2 Faerie Macabre
1 Dryad Militant
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Fecundity
2 Choke
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Krosan Grip
1 Nature's Claim
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 Quirion Ranger
4 Heritage Druid
1 Birchlore Rangers
4 Priest of Titania
4 Fyndhorn Elves
2 Llanowar Elves
4 Elvish Visionary
1 Viridian Shaman
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Chord of Calling
1 Summoner's Pact
4 Glimpse of Nature
4 Green Sun's Zenith
13 Forest
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Pithing Needle
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Faerie Macabre
1 Dryad Militant
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Choke
1 Fecundity
1 Nature's Claim
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Krosan Grip
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 Elvish Archdruid
3 Elvish Visionary
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Heritage Druid
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Nettle Sentinel
3 Priest of Titania
3 Quirion Ranger
1 Regal Force
3 Wirewood Symbiote
2 Crop Rotation
4 Glimpse of Nature
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Staff of Domination
14 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
That's my deck right now:
3 Quirion Ranger
4 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Birchlore Rangers
4 Priest of Titania
4 Heritage Druid
2 Llanowar Elves
1 Reclamation Sage
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Glimpse of Nature
14 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
What do you suggest? Keep my deck, your decklist or merge them (somehow)?
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Wirewood Symbiote
4 Priest of Titania
4 Heritage Druid
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Fyndhorn Elves
3 Quirion Ranger
1 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
2 Llanowar Elves
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Birchlore Rangers
1 Regal Force
4 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Summoner's Pact
1 Surgical Extraction
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Nature's Claim
1 Krosan Grip
1 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Pithing Needle
1 Relic of Progenitus
2 Faerie Macabre
1 Dryad Militant
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Fecundity
2 Choke
I've put Reclamation sage on maindeck. I'm thinking about removing forests to put one or two more Crop Rotation. I also have an Emrakul here. For now I can't aford fetches or Natural order. I still don't know what to do.
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Goblin Cohort
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Goblin Arsonist
3 Goblin Chieftain
2 Mogg War-Marshal
3 Eidolon of the great revel
4 Goblin Grenade
4 Fireblast
2 Reckless Abandon