No problem at all :), hope it all comes together and you get something fun and awesome out of it. Definitely come back with it when you do id love to see what you come up with. Been kind of a ghost town around here, makes me sad because it use to be booming.
Yeah i was just throwing idea's out there based on some of your cards, most of the time you dont even have to millstone yourself if you play the right cards like golgari thug for example getting him killed early you start the cycle. But if need be there are creatures that start it for you, this is my personal dredge deck i play in multiplayer if you want a more refined example.
In this case Golgari Thug throws a card when he dies and gives you dredge 4,Grisly Salvage can potentially throw 5 if you decide not to keep anything.
Satyr Wayfinder throws potentially 4 if you decide not to keep the land and could getDakmor Salvage into the grave to give you dredge 2.Life from the Loam will get you land you didn't keep (dredge 3) and combos with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord if your swinging/defending with him and he dies which you should always. He's also good to constantly keep you sacing your big boys to kill people. (In the case of this deck i have multiple biggun's to feed him lol)
Splinterfright mills you 2 every upkeep to help genesis pull whatever you want in creatures.
Working on a Devil tribal it pretty much has suicide deck elements, looking for feed back to make it better. Id like to keep it devils but at most demons are alright, anything goes for spells,enchantments etc but im trying to also keep it budget.
I built a wall deck a few years back with my brother it was pretty fun nothing special or crazy, the win con's were around Phenax, God of Deception,Vent Sentinel or Maze's End and with that we ran gate lands.
Here's the deck list maybe it will give you some idea's
Based on what you posted i put something together as an idea, of course better cards are out there this just to throw somethings out. But if you want gray merchant as your win con he likes cards with lots of black mana symbols. You'll just have to figure out how you want to get there, you have a lot of different cards for different types of suicide decks.
She's a tough cast at that cost but its do-able,i noticed you have a lot of high casting cost cards. Im thinking Golgari drudge deck.
Few cards i think might be a better fit in my opinion then some of the ones you mentioned. I think Lotleth Troll is better then Charnel Troll fundamentally they do the same thing but you don't have to exile cards and you can keep Lotleth alive longer with regen.
I'm thinking something maybe like this.. and again take it only as opinion go however you feel is right for what you want to do. Even this deck i built kinda sucks lol but maybe you can get idea's
Decided to bust out the old cat equipment deck to edit it a bit, looking for advice to make it better. I know there is a lot of awesome expensive cards that could work like stoneforge etc but i want to keep it budget and tribal.
There are a few nice creature options you can add into this if pure spells aren't doing it for you. Also a few other alternative spells and enchantments even though you have some great ones in this.
In this case Golgari Thug throws a card when he dies and gives you dredge 4,Grisly Salvage can potentially throw 5 if you decide not to keep anything.
Satyr Wayfinder throws potentially 4 if you decide not to keep the land and could getDakmor Salvage into the grave to give you dredge 2.Life from the Loam will get you land you didn't keep (dredge 3) and combos with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord if your swinging/defending with him and he dies which you should always. He's also good to constantly keep you sacing your big boys to kill people. (In the case of this deck i have multiple biggun's to feed him lol)
Splinterfright mills you 2 every upkeep to help genesis pull whatever you want in creatures.
Other notable biggun's (some multiplayer fixated,some requiring lands etc)Tarmogoyf, Terravore, Mortivore, Lhurgoyf .
4 Dakmor Salvage
5 Forest
2 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
4 Swamp
3 Vivid Marsh
4 Woodland Cemetery
4 Golgari Thug
2 Boneyard Wurm
4 Satyr Wayfinder
4 Splinterfright
2 Sewer Nemesis
2 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
3 Genesis
3 Lord of Extinction
3 Ghoultree
2 Grisly Salvage
2 Gnaw to the Bone
Sorcery
1 Deadly Allure
4 Life from the Loam
2 Spider Spawning
1 Karoo
17 Plains
4 Drifting Meadow
Creatures
2 Hero of Iroas
3 Aegis of the Gods
3 Daxos, Blessed by the Sun
4 Nyx-Fleece Ram
4 Eidolon of Countless Battles
3 Mesa Enchantress
2 Serra Avatar
3 Battle Mastery
4 Ethereal Armor
2 Gift of Immortality
4 Recumbent Bliss
2 Serra's Embrace
2 Spirit Mantle
Here is what i have so far.
4 Smoldering Marsh
7 Swamp
2 Dragonskull Summit
9 Mountain
Creatures
4 Chained Brute
2 Charmbreaker Devils
3 Hellrider
3 Mayhem Devil
4 Rakdos Cackler
2 Rakdos, Lord of Riots
4 Vexing Devil
2 Zurzoth, Chaos Rider
3 Devil's Play
4 Bone Splinters
3 Rakdos's Return
4 Village Rites
11 Forest
3 Swamp
4 Blooming Marsh
4 Woodland Cemetery
Creatures
1 Arachnus Spinner
2 Arasta of the Endless Web
4 Deadly Recluse
2 Ishkanah, Grafwidow
3 Rotwidow Pack
4 Twin-Silk Spider
4 Arachnogenesis
4 Cultivate
4 Putrefy
4 Rampant Growth
Enchantments
4 Arachnus Web
Artifacts
2 Bow of Nylea
2 Silklash Spider
Here's the deck list maybe it will give you some idea's
9 Forest
1 Rakdos Guildgate
1 Gruul Guildgate
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Izzet Guildgate
1 Selesnya Guildgate
1 Boros Guildgate
1 Azorius Guildgate
1 Simic Guildgate
1 Dimir Guildgate
1 Orzhov Guildgate
1 Maze's End
4 Wall of Blossoms
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Overgrown Battlement
4 Wall of Essence
4 Wall of Omens
2 Stalwart Shield-Bearers
2 Wall of Denial
4 Axebane Guardian
1 Tree of Redemption
4 Vent Sentinel
3 Phenax, God of Deception
4 Assault Formation
4 Dauthi Slayer
4 Sangrophage
4 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Master of the Feast
2 Abyssal Persecutor
3 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
4 Rite of Consumption
4 Dark Ritual
4 Distress
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Smallpox
Few cards i think might be a better fit in my opinion then some of the ones you mentioned. I think Lotleth Troll is better then Charnel Troll fundamentally they do the same thing but you don't have to exile cards and you can keep Lotleth alive longer with regen.
Alternatively you can use Lure on Lotleth Troll or Pygmy Troll get deathtouch on one of them and bam!
I'm thinking something maybe like this.. and again take it only as opinion go however you feel is right for what you want to do. Even this deck i built kinda sucks lol but maybe you can get idea's
2 Vraska, Regal Gorgon
Lands
9 Forest
4 Dakmor Salvage
5 Swamp
4 Woodland Cemetery
2 Bow of Nylea
Creatures
4 Golgari Thug
3 Swarm Guildmage
4 Lotleth Troll
2 Attendant of Vraska
2 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
3 Genesis
3 Lord of Extinction
3 Ghoultree
4 Life from the Loam
3 Vraska's Stoneglare
3 Treasured Find
This is what it current is..
21 Plains
Creatures
4 Trained Caracal
3 Ajani's Pridemate
4 Sunspear Shikari
2 Leonin Skyhunter
2 Kemba, Kha Regent
2 Skyhunter Skirmisher
2 Healer of the Pride
1 Jazal Goldmane
1 Raksha Golden Cub
4 Bonesplitter
3 Inquisitor's Flail
3 Loxodon Warhammer
2 Sword of Vengeance
2 Pennon Blade
2 White Sun's Zenith
Planeswalker
2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
These are some changes ive thought about..
21 Plains
Creature
4 Trained Caracal
3 Ajani's Pridemate
4 Sunspear Shikari
3 Leonin Shikari
2 Kemba, Kha Regent
1 Jazal Goldmane
1 Raksha Golden Cub
4 Bonesplitter
3 Loxodon Warhammer
2 Sword of Vengeance
2 Pennon Blade
Spells
2 White Sun's Zenith
3 Open the Armory
3 Sigarda's Aid
Planeswalker
2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
2 Nephalia Drownyard
4 Drowned Catacomb
10 Island
8 Swamp
Creatures
4 Diregraf Ghoul
4 Walking Dead
2 Prized Amalgam
3 Diregraf Captain
2 Gisa and Geralf
1 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
2 Raving Dead
2 Geralf's Mindcrusher
2 Zombie Infestation
2 Endless Ranks of the Dead
2 Oversold Cemetery
Spells
2 Bone Splinters
2 Forbidden Alchemy
2 Thought Scour
2 Ghoulcaller's Chant
2 Shamble Back
11 Forest
11 Mountain
4 Rootbound Crag
Creatures
4 Orcish Lumberjack
4 Zhur-Taa Druid
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
2 Primordial Hydra
4 Gruul Spellbreaker
4 Boartusk Liege
1 Nylea, God of the Hunt
1 Deus of Calamity
2 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
2 Rubblehulk
4 Harmonize
Enchantment
2 Fires of Yavimaya
Hilarious combo to shut down someone Isochron Scepter + Orim's Chant
You could go land tax route, Land Tax,Propaganda,Ghostly Prison and Aura of Silence. Good mana fixers/thinners areweathered wayfarer,kor cartographer is also decent.
If for some reason creatures are on the board some decent white spot removal cards are swords to plowshares,path to exile and condemn.
Decent Board control creatures to mess with people,Fatespinner,Magus of the Tabernacle,Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir,Grand Arbiter Augustin IV