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    posted a message on Grixis Delver
    Quote from deathstroke99 »
    I'm currently playing Ryan's list and I'm loving it. But I also like the Young Pyromancer build.

    Kevin Jones is having a lot of success with YP version. So I kinda want to try it. Although, part of me doesn't like playing Gitaxian Probe.

    What are the Pros/Cons and the good/bad matchups of each version. In what sort of meta (aggro, control, combo) should you play each version? Sorry if this question has been asked already.


    I have played both. Last week was my first time on the Young Pyro and 3x Probe build and it felt much more powerful. I have an aggressive meta and Pyro took over the game very quickly. I am pretty sold on him, and this is coming from someone who was anti Pyro for a long time.
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Established
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    posted a message on Jeskai Control
    Quote from Xaricore »
    I am kind f sad that this deck is getting less popular tournaments. What counters this deck most of all? It definitely shot up in playability for a while but it has gone down. What does everyone think?


    Got my butt handed to me by Grixis control, and more people have been playing that lately. Also Geist is making a resurgence in a lot of areas and the Nahiri list does not pair up well with Jeskai Flash unless you are mainboarding a few Verdicts (which I do).

    I think an adjustment to more boardwipes and lots of Rest in Peace's will be just fine moving forward.

    I have personally been on Grixis Delver the last two weeks because it has better matchups in my local meta.
    Posted in: Control
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    posted a message on [[Official]] SCG Modern Discussions
    Boswell seems to have an open stream of consciousness just flowing from his mouth this weekend. Patrick, Cedric, LSV, etc. are so good at going over different lines of play and showing the viewer why Play X is relevant two or three turns from now.

    CVM and Bos are just doing a play by play it seems...

    EDIT: Looks like Kevin Jones made it to the quarters with Delver!
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [[Official]] SCG Modern Discussions
    Lol Tom Ross just owning with Tron...I'm convinced this guy can win with a ham sandwich at this point
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on [[Official]] SCG Modern Discussions
    Good lord I dislike Jeff Hoogland.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on Grixis Delver
    Quote from Copitox »
    Is this deck playable without Tarns and AV? I have the classic Ryan Overturf list. I need to sell some cards to make some quick money, and I was thinking Tarns and AV would be the biggest bucks without sacrificing much playablity.


    Ancestral Vision? Sure it is fine without. Tarns? Not so much imo, but you can always sub some other blue fetch if you need to. This is assuming you have 4x Deltas already.
    Posted in: Modern Archives - Established
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    posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (9/26/2016 update - No changes!)
    SCG is notorious for clickbait 'ban this' articles, especially on premium so you have to get through a pay wall. They have a new ban article every couple months. Just ignore them.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on State of the Meta Thread. Talk about modern as a whole; Bans, health reprints and more.
    Quote from sisicat »
    I've come to the realization after GP Dallas that Modern will never turn out the way I want it to be. WOTC is clearly happy that Modern is a "blazing fast format" and quite frankly I honestly don't think WOTC cares if the format is balanced or not. I think WOTC purposely made Modern the way it is today, simply to frustrate very competitive players to migrate over to Standard (which I have done) and of course it benefits WOTC the more people that play Standard. I've basically come to accept what Modern's goal is as a format (diverse decks), and accept the fact that it won't be a format for me where I can build one deck and crush everything since WOTC actively discourages that by taking action with the banlist on said decks.


    GP Dallas made you realize this? With Skred Red, Grixis, and UWR Control in the top 8? I mean yeah there were 3 infect decks but I thought GP Dallas was fantastic in showcasing different decks. The SCG Modern even the same weekend was even more diverse.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on State of the Meta Thread. Talk about modern as a whole; Bans, health reprints and more.
    Quote from gkourou »
    Quote from Venomous72 »
    Quote from wpgstevo »
    Quote from Venomous72 »
    They will never change the sideboard numbers.

    Honestly my hope is they just throw Force of Will into Modern Masters 17 and say 'Here, regulate your own format'.


    Speaking of things they'll never do. Introducing cards to modern outside of standard is very likely to be outside their best interests. I'm absolutely certain that WotC is concerned that standard-based sales would tank way more than any increase in modern-based sales if they bypass standard. There is basically no upside to doing that from their perspective, so I think we should believe them when they say that cards get to modern though standard as a rule.


    Yep I know. I still think Force would be great in Modern. There is a reason Legacy is such a healthy format, and Force is a large part of that.


    This talk is about Modern, but I consider Legacy to be super broken, and super unhealthy as a whole. I don't want Force of Will in Modern either because it will create situations like "spinwheel" about if you do have Fow And a blue card in your hand, on top of being too strong for Modern.


    I'm aware what the discussion is about, thanks. You consider Legacy broken and unhealthy? Have you played it?

    FoW creates card disadvantage but allows you to not die on turn 1 to Belcher or TES. Legacy is the healthiest format in MTG and I have never heard someone who has actually played Legacy say it is 'super broke and unhealthy'. Sorry man but it will be hard for me to take your argument seriously here.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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    posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (9/26/2016 update - No changes!)
    Quote from Equinox2793 »
    Quote from bizzycola »
    Quote from Venomous72 »
    Burn would have zero issues with SFM. Literally just bolt SFM and they are good to go. Skullcrack, Atarkas, etc. It would be just fine.


    Wouldn't burn just run SFM? being able to cheat out any sword like War and Peace or Fire Ice doesn't seem bad. This is part of the difficulty in assuming what if's about the banned list. To many variables to account for not the least of which is what if SFM alters any deck running W to start playing it? The possibilities given a unbanning are to much for anyone to really account for given that you cannot build every single best post ban deck of ever deck and test it ignoring any new deck that it might spawn.


    Posts like these are why I question if half the people in this thread actively play modern. Burn would rather play goyf based on the argument that you are making and they don't because they would rather play bolt effects because burn wants to be hard to interact with.


    All of bizzycola's arguments are pretty bad, I stopped responding. He thinks Mental Misstep is less format warping than SFM :/
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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