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  • posted a message on PlayStation Battle Royale Mafia Endgame: The Power of the Dark Side
    Hey everyone, I am here Grin

    Have my role pm Slant

    Have 1300 posts to read Gaaaaaaaaaah
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from DoTArchon »
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    @Mikey: Can you please explain or point me to where you have explained your townread of Ruma (without claiming you're Mason's)? Even after Grape's points regarding Ruma's first big post and the Ruma/Vaimes interaction you're still adamant Ruma is town and I don't understand how you've reached that conclusion.

    @Grape: Is Mikey the third with you and KJ? It's the only explanation I can think of for why you still have a townread of him.

    Where I am right now (lying in bed posting :p ) on the gamestate:

    Town reads until I die (unless something massively drastic happens):
    Rodemy/Vaimes: My reads are linked here based mainly on their interactions with one another. Unless they are exactly S/S and have orchestrated an amazing amount of scum theatre there is no way this is a T/S interaction. Both have banged their heads against the wall trying to get through to the other.
    Dawningbluesky: The DBS slip looks legit enough that I'm onboard with the lockdown read others have given her. P.S. @DBS: Tom made it very clear in both the signup thread and the opening post of the game that it's 3 scum and 10 town(of which three are masons). I understand what you're saying about what you read offsite about what a mason is but unless Tom has made this a multiball game there is no way the masons are scum here. You can confirm this with him if you really feel it's necessary but trust that there is a reason multiple people have said that masons =/= scum here.

    Varying degrees of Town/Null:
    Grapefruit21: Grape scares me the same way that Shadow does, his scumgame is strong enough that even if he is town I get paranoid enough to look for reasons to scum read him (read Haiku Mafia for an amazingly bad Shadow conspiracy theory I concocted). Occam's makes me want to believe the Grape/KJ mason team is accurate but Grape is next level enough to claim mason as scum knowing he can explain why he hasn't been NK'd. And there is something he posted earlier that has my paranoia levels at near maximum but I'd rather not hand it to scum on a silver platter. They can work for that bit of info or just kill masonGrape.
    Vezokpiraka: I've just played with town Vezok, the game is still ongoing so I can't say too much here other than I'm seeing a similarity that makes me doubt he's scum.
    Ganderin_Dan: Nothing jumps out as scum in anything he's posted but he's not on a town level with Rod/Vaimes/DBS.
    Sentenza: Unless the scumteam are coaching her on exactly what to say I cannot believe a first time forum player has this strong a scumgame. Her reads and thoughts are easy to follow and the town mindset of solving the game is very evident.
    Iso: Replaced into a nonposting slot so too early to form a read. Posts made so far not setting off any alarm bells.
    Killjoy: If it wasn't for the Grape/KJ Occam's theory I'd have KJ as null rather than leantown. I need to reread his ISO and the KJ/Vaimes interactions. The fact that several people have expressed scum reads of KJ worries me that I've either missed something or he's a mislynch waiting to happen. In which case, Vote Count Analysis!

    MDK:
    Rumanshi: Lynch with extreme prejudice. The points raised about his content (or lack thereof) and the differences between Ruma here and in OtG line up with how I was reading him as I caught up. Especially during the Vaimes clash.
    Emcee_Mikey: Claimed Ruma here is the same as Ruma in OtG, claimed mason partners with Ruma, refuses to consider any contrary viewpoint regarding Ruma. Either Mikey is town hoping to mason claim a scum player to avoid being the NK or he's scum with Ruma who acts shocked when Ruma flips and falls back on the "was trying to dodge the NK" defense. Or he's scum linking himself to townRuma for cred knowing Ruma is a likely early lynch. I'm thinking we lynch Mikey first, if he flips town/mason it looks a lot better for Ruma.
    Tubba: I can't put my finger on it exactly but Tubba just doesn't read as town to me. I wouldn't lock him down as definite scum but he's leanscum for me at the moment. Will need to reread to figure out if I'm just chasing shadows or if there's something there.

    Vote: Emcee_Mikey
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Quote from Emcee_Mikey »
    Quote from Vaimes »
    ty dan.

    I think Killjoy can be town.

    Vote vezok

    Let’s try hitting this piñata.
    am I misremembering or does Vaimes into vezok feel sudden?

    Not that I care.
    vote: vezok
    So you shade Vaimes' vote, then say screw it and vote along anyway on the fastest growing wagon?

    Vote: Emcee_Mikey

    Still feeling good about a Mikey flip.
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Firstly, Vez never asked me to vote for Vaimes, something occurred to me that made me reconsider my townread. The vote was very much based on paranoia and meta combined but I just can't wrap my head around scumVaimes (sorry Vez).

    Secondly, Unvote, Vote: Mikey

    Quote from Emcee_Mikey »
    Okay, I have a feeling Vezok just told Dota to vote vaimes and dota himself doesn't really have anything to say about this game.
    Considering that I'm voting alongside you on your top? your scumread, why the shade here?
    Is vaimes/iso possible? Cause otherwise I don't see why vaimes is pushing this so hard. Like, you always always go for masons if you're a wolf. The only reason to really like make the play iso did is if his scumbuddies were under heavy suspicion before ruma gained traction. This is the scenario I see in scumchat:

    "Dude you need to get in here we're not doing so great"

    "K I think Ruma is an easy lynch, I'll pressure him and it'll look good."

    "Then what?"

    "Oh, I know who two, maybe three of the masons are, so tomorrow I'll claim to have the game solved and hope that everyone lynches the three people I tell them to."
    "Why not just kill the masons?"

    "This will be Sooooo much better."

    If the wolves aren't really under any kind of suspicion it doesn't make sense to cause that much panic and discussion. If iso is a wolf like then his partners still have to be in the PoE and he was just hoping to hit the other 3. I'm gonna go reread the beginning of Day 2 just to see. I still don't think iso is a wolf and vaimes is just trying to enlarge the PoE to give us greater chances to miss. If vaimes lives through tomorrow I guarantee he'll be even more paranoid and suggest even more crazy theories, because we're guaranteed to hit a wolf in lylo.

    Also rip this game ending before GP Vegas, might as well take our time now.
    If we lynch town toDay then toMorrow is LyLo, town lynched plus one mason NK'd means tomorrow is 3VT/1MS/3SC. How are we guaranteed to hit a wolf? And what point are you trying to make here about Iso/Vaimes?
    Just gonna leave this here... :p
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Postgame cred reads: Rod, DoTA, vezo all town.
    Grin
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Arkham Horror Mafia - A peaceful town - Town Win
    I really let the team down, if I'd been more active D1 and dodged the Vig it would have made a world of difference to how the rest of the game played out. Was very surprised to see the mod confirm of the number of items stolen but had I been alive and my role not publicly known it wouldn't have mattered as much. A big part of our loss here rests on my shoulders.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Blow by blow Votes: (this is gonna be a long one…)

    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote Vezok
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    Vote: Emcee
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Vote: HuntzillaIso
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Vote: Sentenza
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Sentenza: DoTA
    Vote: Vaimes
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Sentenza: DoTA
    Vaimes: DBS
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    Vote grape
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Sentenza: DoTA
    Vaimes: DBS
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Vote dawn
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Sentenza: DoTA
    Vaimes: DBS
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    DBS: Vaimes
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Vote: DBS
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    DBS: Vaimes, DoTA
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Unvote
    Vezok: Rodemy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    DBS: Vaimes
    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote dota
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    DBS: Vaimes
    DoTA: Rodemy
    Quote from Vaimes »
    unvote, vote Killjoy
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    DoTA: Rodemy
    KJ: Vaimes
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Vote Vaimes
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    DoTA: Rodemy
    KJ: Vaimes
    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote vaimes
    Mikey: Rumanshi
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    KJ: Vaimes
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    Unvote
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy
    Grapefruit: Vezok
    KJ: Vaimes
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    vote ganderin
    Iso: Grapefruit
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Vaimes
    Dan: Vezok
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Vote: Rodemy
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Vaimes
    Dan: Vezok
    Rodemy: Grapefruit
    Quote from Sentenza »
    Vote: Killjoy
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Vaimes, Sentenza
    Dan: Vezok
    Rodemy: Grapefruit
    Quote from Emcee_Mikey »
    Vote: Vaimes
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy, Mikey
    KJ: Vaimes, Sentenza
    Dan: Vezok
    Rodemy: Grapefruit
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    unvote
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy, Mikey
    KJ: Vaimes, Sentenza
    Rodemy: Grapefruit
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Unvote, vote Ruma
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy, Mikey
    KJ: Sentenza
    Rodemy: Grapefruit
    Rumanshi: Vaimes
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Vote: Rumanashi
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy, Mikey
    KJ: Sentenza
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    Vote Rumanashi
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy, Mikey
    KJ: Sentenza
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Vezok
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    Vote: Sentenza
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy, Mikey
    KJ: Sentenza
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Vezok
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    No Votes
    Quote from Emcee_Mikey »
    unvoteVote: Killjoy
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Sentenza, Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Vezok
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    No Votes
    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote killjoy


    Vaimes: DBS, KJ
    KJ: Sentenza, Mikey, Rodemy
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Vezok
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    vote Mikey
    Vaimes: DBS, KJ
    KJ: Sentenza, Mikey, Rodemy
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    Mikey: Vezok
    Vote: Emcee_Mikey
    Vaimes: KJ
    KJ: Sentenza, Mikey, Rodemy
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    Mikey: Vezok, DBS
    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote vaimes
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Sentenza, Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    Mikey: Vezok, DBS
    Quote from Sentenza »
    Vote: Rumanshi
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Sentenza
    Sentenza: Rumanshi
    Mikey: Vezok, DBS
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    vote:vaimes
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy, Rumanshi
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Sentenza
    Mikey: Vezok, DBS
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    unvote, vote rumanashi
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy, Rumanshi
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Sentenza, Vezok
    Mikey: DBS
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    Vote:vezokpiraka
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Grapefruit, Sentenza, Vezok
    Mikey: DBS
    Vezok: Rumanshi
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Vote: Vezok
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok
    Mikey: DBS
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Grapefruit
    Quote from Iso »
    Vote Rumanshi
    Vaimes: KJ, Rodemy
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok, Iso
    Mikey: DBS
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Grapefruit
    Quote from Rodemy »
    vote ruma
    Vaimes: KJ
    KJ: Mikey
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok, Iso
    Mikey: DBS, Rodemy
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Grapefruit
    Quote from Emcee_Mikey »
    unvote, Vote: Vezokpiraka
    Vaimes: KJ
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok, Iso
    Mikey: DBS, Rodemy
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Grapefruit, Mikey

    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Vote: Emcee_Mikey
    Vaimes: KJ
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok, Iso
    Mikey: DBS, Rodemy, DoTA
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Grapefruit, Mikey

    Quote from ganderin_dan »
    Vote: Rumanshi/quote]Vaimes: KJ
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok, Iso, Dan
    Mikey: DBS, Rodemy, DoTA
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Grapefruit, Mikey





    [quote from="Grapefruit21 »" url="/forums/community-forums/mafia/793343-friends-and-enemies-mafia-day-3-getting-closer?comment=704"]Vote: Ruma
    Vaimes: KJ
    Rumanshi: Vaimes, Sentenza, Vezok, Iso, Dan, Grapefruit
    Mikey: DBS, Rodemy, DoTA
    Vezok: Rumanshi, Mikey

    LYNCH

    Was going to carry on but I don't know how much time is left before tom locks the thread and I don't want to die tonight and this goes to waste.

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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    @Vezok/Iso/Vaimes: Grape/Rod/Tubba as possible team?

    @Mikey: Go read through the D1 Vaimes/Rod exchange and tell me what scumVaimes is trying to accomplish there.
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    God dammit I hate this game.

    I've spent two hours lying in bed multi-quoting all of Rod's votes so I can analyse how/where he's been falling on the wagons and the further I got the more I started skimming posts. Grape goes from liking Rod after reading my ISO to asking Vaimes why Rod is town in the space of 5 posts. And then swings off of Rod to KJ (who he was confident was town to the extent of claiming masons with) after DBS votes KJ as a counter wagon to Tubba/Rod.

    Vote: Grape

    rip

    DoTA save me
    It's 02h45 and I'm working in the morning. Maybe later :p
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    God dammit I hate this game.

    I've spent two hours lying in bed multi-quoting all of Rod's votes so I can analyse how/where he's been falling on the wagons and the further I got the more I started skimming posts. Grape goes from liking Rod after reading my ISO to asking Vaimes why Rod is town in the space of 5 posts. And then swings off of Rod to KJ (who he was confident was town to the extent of claiming masons with) after DBS votes KJ as a counter wagon to Tubba/Rod.

    Vote: Grape

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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    @Vez, you won't join me on Mikey and I'm still not convinced it's Vaimes. Can we settle for Rod?

    (Anyone with more experience than me with VCA, please ISO tom and talk to me about Rodemy's voting patterns)
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Unvote

    Vote: Rodemy
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Since the Mason's are outed, I demand a flavour claim!

    (Why the hell not...) :p
    Ooh, fluff.

    I'm Shawn Spencer, and my bff is Burton Guster.
    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Since the Mason's are outed, I demand a flavour claim!

    (Why the hell not...) :p


    I am Ford Prefect (as played by Mos Def), best friend to Arthur Dent.


    @tom I am all about your taste. This game's flavor is incredibly my jazz. Well not so much the music (I'm a boring 2000's indie rock kind of guy) but the characters.

    I'm Bob the Skull. I'm not really a skull, more of a floating, ancient, encyclopedia of magical knowledge that often resides in a skull (or the cat when I need to move). I'm annoying and don't really get humans, but I love titillating romance novels. My official flavor is that I'm harry dresden's friend, but really it's more of a I'm a genie in a bottle and he relies on me type situation.
    Completely unrelated to the game:
    SQUEEEEEEE! My favourite book series ever!
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Since the Mason's are outed, I demand a flavour claim!

    (Why the hell not...) :p
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Firstly, Vez never asked me to vote for Vaimes, something occurred to me that made me reconsider my townread. The vote was very much based on paranoia and meta combined but I just can't wrap my head around scumVaimes (sorry Vez).

    Secondly, Unvote, Vote: Mikey

    Quote from Emcee_Mikey »
    Okay, I have a feeling Vezok just told Dota to vote vaimes and dota himself doesn't really have anything to say about this game.
    Considering that I'm voting alongside you on your top? your scumread, why the shade here?
    Is vaimes/iso possible? Cause otherwise I don't see why vaimes is pushing this so hard. Like, you always always go for masons if you're a wolf. The only reason to really like make the play iso did is if his scumbuddies were under heavy suspicion before ruma gained traction. This is the scenario I see in scumchat:

    "Dude you need to get in here we're not doing so great"

    "K I think Ruma is an easy lynch, I'll pressure him and it'll look good."

    "Then what?"

    "Oh, I know who two, maybe three of the masons are, so tomorrow I'll claim to have the game solved and hope that everyone lynches the three people I tell them to."
    "Why not just kill the masons?"

    "This will be Sooooo much better."

    If the wolves aren't really under any kind of suspicion it doesn't make sense to cause that much panic and discussion. If iso is a wolf like then his partners still have to be in the PoE and he was just hoping to hit the other 3. I'm gonna go reread the beginning of Day 2 just to see. I still don't think iso is a wolf and vaimes is just trying to enlarge the PoE to give us greater chances to miss. If vaimes lives through tomorrow I guarantee he'll be even more paranoid and suggest even more crazy theories, because we're guaranteed to hit a wolf in lylo.

    Also rip this game ending before GP Vegas, might as well take our time now.
    If we lynch town toDay then toMorrow is LyLo, town lynched plus one mason NK'd means tomorrow is 3VT/1MS/3SC. How are we guaranteed to hit a wolf? And what point are you trying to make here about Iso/Vaimes?
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    Vote: Vaimes

    @tom: Votecount please
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  • posted a message on Friends and Enemies Mafia - game over - friendship is magic
    EBWODP:
    Iso has proven that he at least knew Vezok was a mason since D1, if he was scum why not shoot an unknown? Have you read Dan's iso, is there anything that hints at him being a mason? I agree with Vez's townread of Iso. I disagree though with the Vaimes read, but I will have to reread him before arguing for/against lynching him.
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