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  • posted a message on Guildmasters of Ravnica D&D Campaign Setting?
    Quote from krishnath »
    Well, there goes the "we don't cross the streams in our products" argument right out the window, together with both the barrel, the baby, and the bathwater.

    Now can we finally get Illithid and Neholders in M:TG?


    If the magic team were cool with bringing the stream crossing to their side they would have called the Azra Tieflings. But who knows.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Unreleased and New Card Discussion
    Maybe in my Omnath deck. I just wish he was an elemental. He does look more like one than a golden.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Guildmasters of Ravnica D&D Campaign Setting?
    I get the sense that this will be more than what was done for Kaladesh or Ixalan.

    I'm excited. Ravnica is my home plane, so to speak, and ill be happy to take anything thats gamable from it, even if I don't actually run a campaign there.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 speculation
    In the rumor mill someone posted a screeny of MaRo saying that Lord Windgrace was in C18. So there's that for confirmation.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Random Card of the Day: Polymorphist's Jest
    The interaction with BloodForged Battle-Axe is to funny.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Jhoira or Sai?
    Quote from Artaud »

    Exactly my thoughts. That's also the reason it's hard to decide.

    And I wished he was Red-Blue like Jhoira. Red can use artifact fodder very effectively (Pia and Kiran) not to mention giving boosts for attacking force (Shared Animosity, Purphoros).

    There are two problems with Brea:
    1) She's deck-centric like Jhoira which means it's hard to win if she's not on board
    2) Four colors require heavy investment in land base which I don't expect from an artifact-centric deck. Not to mention financial aspects and the fact I already own few multicolored decks and don't want to move cards back and forth between them


    No? My Breya deck does plenty well and I rarely actually play her. Sure you can use the various combos but you dont need to.

    As for lands why would being an artifact deck preclude you from investing in good lands? Besides that, being an artifact deck meams you don't have to have a full complement of shocks, fetches, and ABURs since most of your spells don't need color.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Core 2019 General Discussion
    Because millions weren't going to get nuked on another plane after Zendikar was finished getting thoroughly nuked? At least this way, she delivered justice to someone who didn't follow through with promises and responsibilities, on a plane that was a nightmare to begin with, no less. And spared what was left of her home. One way or another, the nuking was inevitable. Might as well use it to accomplish something.


    You have a very twisted sense of justice. :\
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Jhoira or Sai?
    1) There were artifact commamders long before Jhoira or Sai.

    2) On the 10th of next month were getting a brand new artifact commander deck, maybe wait until then to decide.

    3) After waiting for that pick Breya, Etherium Shaper.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    Quote from Magiqmaster »
    Anybody knows when the spoilers will finally begin?

    I had read it would be this week, but so far nothing has been revealed...


    People keep saying next week. Unless that was revealed on the stream the 30th(the week after next) seems the most in time with the past. Small product like this getting one week of previews is the norm.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    Quote from Melkor »
    Serra- WWW(W?) (hybrid) U/G

    everybody good? Heavy white primary, but Bant colors


    Nah you'd want it to be it to be (W/U)(W/U)(W/G)(W/G) so she could still lead a hypothetical mono white deck but still also qualify as Bant.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    Quote from Watchwolf »
    Firstly, you're not going to sway me or many others by taking snippets of my arguments out of context.

    Secondly, as I have said I think three times now, we aren't looking at information "from elsewhere." Everything that shaped MY expectations came from Gavin, the commander product page, AND the preamble to the stream. In other words, they all came from Wizards of the Coast. Not leaks. Not rumors. Not alleged conversations with investors. Actual direct quotes from actual WotC personnel. And at least two of these three quotes are directly related to Commander 2018. Gavin's quote was admittedly vague, but as a few others have already said, given the timing and upcoming products, the most likely context for his hint IS Commander 2018.

    Again, whether WotC intended to or not, these three things painted a picture in my mind of what Commander 2018 is supposed to look like, and the information from the stream hasn't yet come close to resembling that picture. I'm speaking for myself here, but I'm sure I'm not in the minority on the matter.


    Even if the quote from Gavin was intended for C18, which hey it may well be, thats not reason to expect that this brief overview of the product will show exactly that.

    And of course the stream doesn't look like the picture you painted. Because the stream was just a tiny portion of what the product is. This wasn't intended to be a huge dump of info. There is yet more to come. Why is it entirely WotC's responsibility to manage your hype? Do you not feel like you have any part in tempering your own expectations? I'm down for having huge hype for a product as a whole. But why would you have so many expectations for a minor preview and no responsibility in managing that?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    When it comes to the Kamigawa thing you get no sympathy from me. That's all on you. Like I said before WotC isn't responsible for people making erroneous connections between otherwise unconnected statements.

    As for the expecting walkers, while I can feel that just because it would have been cool, again thats not on WotC. When I heard theme I didn't think they were gonna show anyone in particular or give us walkers. I just figured they'd tell us the overarching theme of the deck. Which is exactly what they did. I expect them to save the juicy stuff to be reserved for spoiler season when M19 hype has died off a little. Like I said, it would have been great to get more but, regardless of what the product page says, you created the expectation. That is not WotC's fault and not theor responsibility.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    They said they only show some art during the actual stream...they didn't clarify any of that beforehand as far as I am aware. So I don't think people were to outline expecting at least one face card this time around. I mean compare this to the last time we had Planeswalker Face cards where Teferi was revealed early to build hype. An Oldwalker Finally Getting a Walker Card and back after Time Spiral. Compared to what half a dozen pics of characters no one knows who they are? No comparison


    http://epicstream.com/news/Heres-When-The-Magic-The-Gatherings-Commander-2018-Spoilers-Are-Coming

    They said several days in advance what they would show.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    Quote from Watchwolf »
    But it IS WotC's fault for not meeting our expectations. Both the commander product page AND Gavin are ground-0 sources and both said very specific things that created very specific expectations. Maybe Gavin's comments weren't directed toward the stream, but there's no defense for the fact that the product page sold us on four decks built around planeswalker commanders, then they come back and tell use that's not true.

    It's WotC's responsibility to control our expectations, and that means clarifying what needs to be clarified before releasing contradictory information, or better yet, not letting the first thing we see about a product point us in the wrong direction.

    So, you're correct in saying that they never specifically said anything about what the commander decks would be like before this stream, but there was enough stuff floating around that can be traced directly back to WotC that the public's expectations were evidently way off-base. That's not our fault, it's theirs.


    The product page vaguely hints at planeswalker commanders. Now, I didn't actually get to watch the stream so did they say that there won't be planeswalker? Because, again, they said themes and art. Not cards, not characters nothing. You got caught up in user generated hype updrafts. In todays hype culture theres only so much WotC can do to keep it under control when people make false connections and run with them as if they're fact, or have unreasonable demands like wanting incredibly obscure characters from planes WotC has said they don't like. Whether or not you think it's they're responsibility or not they simply cannot.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2018 themes and art
    Quote from Crazy Pierre »
    Yeah. what Watchwolf said. Gavin was like: "Kamigawa! Commander! Woo!" and we got...nothing that suggests Kamigawa? Maybe spirit-looking girl is from there, but ehh? And now we have to wait a week to get articles and the full spoiler. Mark's column today was...amusing, but he could have given us a preview card for reading through that exercise. Hopefully they drop a major preview on Monday, whether it's a reprint or something genre-altering.


    This is also disingenuous. No one said there would be Kamigawa cards or themes or anything else in the commander decks. He said that fans of Kamigawa should "stay tuned." It was fans who made the association between commander and the Kamigawa comment.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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