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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    I did not finish all of my grading today so I'll still be a bit distracted but will hopefully have all the bits I skimmed past actually read tomorrow or Sunday. I don't think I missed too much though.

    Vaimes and Cuth - Do you guys think Sloth is town? I think you both have played more with him. I'm not sure how much I should buy into my "doesn't feel like he has an agenda" for being too alignment indicative. I just remember that one game I played with him over a year ago? where he was a scum and his reads and reasoning just really didn't feel right but that was also him coming off a long break, so I might be working with a terrible model.

    I didn't realize Vaimes changed his avatar to a bird. chirp chirp

    Also Azrael - Congrats on upcoming baby #3; I hope the delivery is easy and the baby is healthy Smile
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    That was probably defensive and *****y and I’m sorry about that too.


    (I’m at a point in the semester where I’m answering 50 million questions a day, and I’m feeling a bit stressed. That’s probably bleeding through; I don’t mean to be *****y.)
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Tammy »
    Johnny that’s a nit picky question that serves no purpose. He liked at least one thing I publicly stated I didn’t like it, and considering it’s something you and I have gone on at length about, should be easy to intuit that. And it doesn’t matter because I don’t feel that way anymore.


    It serves a ton of purpose. I just read back your iso after your comment about saying "you were ready to sheep Iso, but...." and tried to see if I missed you challenging the list, but saw you make no comment or challenge anything in his catch up post. Off the top of my head, I don't think you would agree with his stance on me, but I don't know what specific point he made that went directly across a point you disagree with, at least enough to the point that you would not like his catch up point.

    Why are you being so defensive?


    This quite frankly 90% of the time comes from scum. That last line? The amount of time town on this site accuse something really not defensive from me as defensive is really small, but scum here love to accuse anything I say as defensive.

    I think it's a bad and dumb question, coming from you, and I'm annoyed you nitpicked at it, especially when I'm really really trying to set you to the side give and give that read and feel some breathing space, and maybe it's unfair of me but I have a better memory of you as a scumhunter.

    The reason it's dumb is because it's a read that I said was knee-jerk response to the first post which I didn't agree with anymore. I still don't like the first post but whatever because I liked more of his follow up than that first post. I didn't challenge him on anything, you're right, but I don't have to. I made my reaction that I didn't like his first post known. Called him probably not town right away. Told Vaimes after the second post that I didn't like his first post, but I did like his second post so we'll see. I didn't need to challenge him on the chad thing which was something I didn't like from his second or third post because Vaimes did. And then he kept posting and I started thinking he was town.

    I think your question was nitpicky and bad because it was in regards to a first post that I said was a knee jerk reaction. I think if you were really interested in my actual Iso read or if you were trying to get a read off of me or insight to Iso, which I doubt you need from me, your question would have shown more depth. I think why I ended up thinking he is town is way more interesting from a scum hunting perspective than why I knee jerk thought he wasn't town from his first post.

    So you picking out a nitpicky thing from a knee jerk reaction reads not really interested but trying to nitpick, which is annoying, rather than actually trying to read where my mind is at and what made me change my mind there.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    I think you’re better than to ask dumb questions. Sorry
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    I’m not defensive I’m annoyed. It’s a dumb question. Moving on.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Yay! Congratulations:)
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Not that is vaimes is still alive he’s mafia, but the key to having a solid read is how that happens and his play afterwards.

    In case my previous post was confusing
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Cuthalion »
    Quote from Tammy »
    Quote from Cuthalion »
    and as someone who lets his ego get in the way of winning games too often

    that's a nice benefit

    in other news

    i will cackle if vaimes and tammy are wolves together


    Have you seen vaimes more recent scum games? I know it’s gotten better than when we were in misery during 3 little pigs but my thought is that this just isn’t his scum game.

    Do you have hesitation there? Or was that just a little chirp of paranoia showing through or just a joke?


    i

    have not

    i don't think he's necessarily out of his wolf-range (though if he maintained this for all of d1 that would probably change), but we all seem to be on a pretty similar wavelength so i'm not too concerned aorn

    i mostly made the comment because of the private chat references :p


    Okay :p

    (I think the vaimes read solidifies once Mafia starts losing members. If vaimes is still alive when that happens, that’s the key.)
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Cuthalion »
    and as someone who lets his ego get in the way of winning games too often

    that's a nice benefit

    in other news

    i will cackle if vaimes and tammy are wolves together


    Have you seen vaimes more recent scum games? I know it’s gotten better than when we were in misery during 3 little pigs but my thought is that this just isn’t his scum game.

    Do you have hesitation there? Or was that just a little chirp of paranoia showing through or just a joke?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Sorry Johnny that response was a little *****y. I’m sorry to be *****y.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    I liked tubbas “I don’t believe you” gif in response to wisp. That’s a terrible reason to town read someone I know, but I do.

    Right now my town reads of varying strengths are: vaimes, iso, sloth, silver, cuth, killjoy

    Could easily see scum in azrael, crop circles, chad.

    Azrael - blusteriness bugged me. I think a bit of performance feel is standard for him iirc but this felt a little over the top.

    Cc - I didn’t like the why me feel of 128 as it was a super benign statement in the first place. Hesitant to lock scum on this because I’m pretty sure the people who reacted this way in the thing were all town and I scumread the reaction too. Thought his push against sloth felt weak. (Though I did like his “do tell” response to me saying that he could be scum. I just liked it)

    Chad - scum catch up post.

    Purposefully leaving Johnny out of this because I don’t know where my heart wants him, and I’m trying to set him to the side and leave him alone to give that some breathing space that I’ll revisit later.

    I’ve probably missed a lot of the past few pages. I’ve been mostly skimming to keep up, but finals week is next week and I’m trying to get these papers and presentations graded before they turn in their final papers and presentations. (Teaching 6 classes online means a crap ton of grading!). Anyway I’m hoping to be done with that today, tomorrow at the latest and then I can start paying better attention for a few days.

    Iso - nacho went *pouty face* I miss iso to which I replied well you should have signed up for the game fool!

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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    High roller - I’m responding to your neutral party response to me but I’m on my phone and quoting that response is too much.

    I understand that sometimes a 3p in the game can cost the game for town, but I’ve also been in games with 3p which have done nothing really to hurt towns chances of winning, and have had 3p actually be a help to town.

    I do not think leaving alive a 3p for this moment is going to do grave damage to town. If you think he’s lying and he’s really mafia, that’s one thing, but if you believe his claim then leave it alone for right now.

    And really it’s a moot point that should quite frankly not be addressed again. Only high roller and tuba (azrael?) want to eliminate him which means you’re not reaching majority on this, and continued arguing is just a distraction today. It’s an easy place for scum to hide because it takes up valuable headspace. Might as well accept it, look for scum to yeet and begrudgingly move on. Make a discussion thread about what we should do with claimed neutrals after the game if it makes you feel better.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Johnny that’s a nit picky question that serves no purpose. He liked at least one thing I publicly stated I didn’t like it, and considering it’s something you and I have gone on at length about, should be easy to intuit that. And it doesn’t matter because I don’t feel that way anymore.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Actually no I stand by Cuth's post/my earlier post

    Sloth isn't a popular wolf read but his posts are...

    easy to push if you're looking for someone to push

    And Azrael doesn't really say "this is why Sloth is a wolf" as much as he just says "Sloth is objectively wolfy", "kill it with fire" and variations thereof

    It's just empty rhetoric

    vote: Azrael


    This was a bit of a mind meld.

    Thing is with sloth is that he’s an easy push. His posts often times look like he’s just combing the thread looking for posts he can ask questions about and they look like easy questions that don’t often seem like they’re actual scumhunting questions. Or at least that’s my take. I believe he ends up getting lynched day one a lot for his style regardless of his alignment.

    I have him as a town lean because as of right now I don’t think he has an agenda.
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Slothful »
    Quote from Slothful »
    Quote from Tammy »
    eek I was ready to sheep the hell out of iso if I thought he was town.

    I don't think he's town Frown
    Talk about this?
    Tammy you never talked about this. Disappoint.


    I missed this. But I did briefly talk to vaimes about this which was exactly where I was when you asked this.

    I had a knee jerk dislike of his first catchup post, felt superficial and I disagreed with a few things. I’ve liked his other catchups more though, and he had some good off the cuff sounding reasoning last night that I liked in both tone and flow. I have him as probable town now.
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