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  • posted a message on UW Approach
    Quote from MMadMox »
    Sorry for having to ask here, but is there anywhere that the Esper builds are discussed here? I have really loved playing the deck, but am pretty committed to the black cards in it. Thanks in advance!


    Since it we can't talk about Esper or Jeskai Approach list here, which still seems funny to me, I will start a new thread when I get back from the GP in Memphis. The Esper lists right now are still 5-0'ing and are very solid. Even though Jeskai has fallen out of favor, I feel there are some very competitive lists out there.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    That is really close to what I do except I don't pull out the Hulks, instead pull out some Censor. They quickly lose value, IMO and the Hulks can help you stabilize if you make it to turn 6. Also, I may swap 2 Disallow/Supreme for 2 Negates depending on the matchup. Honestly, that is the matchup I miss Aether Meltdown the most.

    I really like the 5-0 list Kpal posted. The 1 Farm makes a lot of sense once I realized that the list is a straight Draw-Go style deck. And after playtesting works great. Most players will play around a Settle if you have mana open for it, instead they will swinging with one or two big creatures. Farm lets you kill one without wasting your Settle. And what is really funny is watching them the next turn trying to figure out what to do, swing with everything or just one/two dudes.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    @kpal - Exact same list 5-0'ed 4 days ago. MTGO Competitive Standard Constructed League — 15-Feb-2018. Something to think about before the GP this weekend.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    @Hobbits73 - I tried out last night, running 3 Opts instead of Censor and really liked it. Opt did so much work and really helped to smooth out my early hands I think I am going to keep it like that for now. May go back to Censor before the GP but will have to see.

    I swapped the 2 Fragmentize out for a Forsake the Worldly in the sideboard. The 2 main reasons are it is instant, meaning gearhulk and flash it back and it exiles instead of destroy. I know it cost 3 instead of 1 but I like it better.

    Ran 1 Nezahal, Primal Tide in the side also and love it each time it hit the board. Even talked to a friend last night about adding one main. Had Azor also but never had a chance to play him.

    @Kpal - I like Thopter Arrest just not sure what I would cut to add it. Currently running 7 enchantment-based removal , 3 baffle, 4 cast out/binding and don't think I would want to change those numbers much.

    And are you still running a Jeskai list or did you go back to UW? Gratz on the nice finish.

    @xaltair - Yes, I go back and forth between 3/1 split of Cast Out and Bindings and a 2/2. I think it just comes down to personal preference and your meta what the right call is.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    Went 3-0-2 at FNM to make top 8, then we all split. Changed the list I posted a few days ago some. Swapped the 3 Censor with 3 Opt to see how it worked and was very impressed. Never really missed the counter. Also tuned the deck to be a little better against aggro and midrange (ran 4 Essence Scatter, 2 Disallow, and 3 Supreme Will) but only played one aggro deck, which I just ran over. The other 4 where all control, had to laugh a little.

    That was the first time running UW in awhile. I really like how smooth straight UW ran. I can't remember a single time I didn't have the right color mana to case what was in my hand. My only issue with the deck was how slow it was. It just felt like it took forever to finish each game. I would get control around turn 4-6 but then just could not close it out. Maybe just my matchups or just me.

    The control matchups came down to who landed a Search first and who could flip it the fastest. Once one player had a flipped Search, it was really hard to beat them. The Cast Out/Ixalans Binding and 2 Field of Ruin did work all night.

    I will keep tweaking the numbers some and will post my final list before next weekend.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    This is the list I am going to run at FNM tomorrow and will take to Memphis. I may make a few changes but this is very close. I will post my sideboard plans shortly. Let me know what you guys think.

    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    When this thread was first created by Xaltair, it was focused on a creature based approach (sorry for the pun) to this deck. I created one that was focused on a control version, at that time straight UW. The mod's decided that they were both close enough that only one thread was required, so the merged them. I felt at that time it was a mistake and still do. Nothing against Xaltair, his version is very cool and I think could put up good results. But there is a big difference between the 2 styles of decks. Right now it is like saying 'I run a Scarab God deck, it is my main win-con'. That just covers so many different decks, play styles and strategies that it would not make sense to try and encompass them all under one thread. /rant

    Headed to Memphis GP next week and still no clue what I am playing. Right now UW with Baffling End is very solid and super consistent. Not really sure if the 3rd color is needed anymore for early spot removal. But Esper and Jeskai are still very strong and have great sideboard options. The Bant, 3 and 4 colors, versions are good but I just don't have enough rep's with them to take it to a major event. And I am too used to running 8-12 counters main board. I will post my current UW list later day after I get home so you guys can let me know what you think.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    R/W APPROACH by rizer

    Have to say this, that sure looks like fun. Chandra, Sunbirds and Compass... After the match, they are going to be sitting there asking what just ran over me?

    Also this is a pretty interesting version of Esper Approach, ESPER APPROACH DECK, BY DANIEL CRAVO
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    Quote from kpal »
    There is also Impeccable Timing. While it costs 1W, it does get Winding Constrictor, Kari Zev, Skyship Raider, and Whirler Virtuoso. Perhaps there is room the deck for both Baffling end and Slash of Talons or Impeccable Timing.

    the problem that I have been having with Grixis at my LGS is that they are keen to my sideboard plan of trading out Approach for Gearhulk and Nezahal. They bring in their Duress, Negate, and Disallow. While still leaving in an Abrade and multiples of Vraska's Contempt. All while landing a turn 2 Glint-sleeve Siphoner which is nightmare if Baffling end is not available right away.

    Questioning whether Glyph Keeper would be useful with its recursion and semi-hexproof.


    W/U APPROACH by Gerald_of_Riviera

    This is a 5-0 list that has Glyph Keeper and Slash of Talons in the side. I am liking Baffling End more and more. Being playing around with the 4 color list I posted a few days ago, but the straight UW version is just so smooth right now. But is it good enough for Approach not to need to splash a 3rd color? Not sure. For me, what it really just comes down to is, do you want to splash a 3rd color for the instant speed early spot removal and some sideboard cards? And I am not sure how to answer that. UW or Esper/Jeskai (I consider the Bant version a very different deck than those 3) are pretty much the same except the 1/2 mana spot removal. Can UW stand on it on without them? I am leaning towards yes. But still playing with the new cards and waiting to see how the new meta plays out.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    Thanks for the suggestion, I do feel like having 2-3 walkers in the sideboard would work well. Still playing with the numbers and cards, hopefully, I will get to playtest with some friends at my LGS this weekend. But the deck just runs very smoothly, surprisingly smooth. But I have not gone up against any control list either so.... I will post a new list in a few days once I bang on it some more.

    Anyone else here going to GP Memphis?
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    @Xaltair - I like the direction your deck is going. Thanks for the nice write up also. Approach really seems like a deck that can flourish from a lot of different ideas.

    Not sure if you guys have seen this yet. 4 Color Mastermind's Acquisition Approach. It is basically Bant Approach with black to run Mastermind's Acquisition. I started playing testing it a few days ago and it is so much fun. And surprisingly good. Combine the ramp with being able to grab any card from your library and/or sideboard is crazy. I think it needs a little tweaking, it feels like it is about 90% there. I am still trying to get the sideboard right. There are so many silver bullets you can add to it. I have moved one of the Approachs to the side and added Fatal Push main. That seemed to help smooth out the early game.

    Yes, it looks jankly as hell. I know. I laughed when I first saw it. But after spending a few hours with it, I will be ordering the paper cards today. I am going to the GP in Memphis is a few weeks and this just may be what I take there.

    Here is an article on it. Instant Deck Tech: Four-Color Acquisition (Standard)

    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    @Kangha94 - Thanks for the post, really like the list. Been trying it out the last few days with really good success. There have been some games where I drop Nezahal, Primal Tide in game 1 then just beat them down with him. The nice thing about that is they don't see approach, so they have no idea what I am playing in game 2. Also, I have been very impressed with Baffling End. It may be the 2 drop we have been missing. The fact that the creature goes away, even if they remove the enchantment is so nice, we really don't care about the 3/3 it leaves behind.

    The only change I have made so far is swapping one of the Cast Outs for a Ixalan's Binding. Being able to make one card go away for the rest of the game is so nice.

    It is nice to be back on UW. I really like the 3 color versions, but UW is so much more consistent and Baffling End seems like it is the early interaction the deck needed.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    I run 3 Cast outs and 1 Binding main. This combination seems to work well. Gives me the instant speed or cycling of cast out but I still have a silver bullet against threats I don't want to deal with repeatedly. If I have room, I will run 1 bindings in the sideboard also.

    Looks like UW is making a comeback over the 3 color list. With results like Athelas, W/U APPROACH by Beau Innis and W/U APPROACH by Maxwell Dresslar in Dallas, seems like Baffling End may just be the card the deck needed to run just UW. I know it makes the mana base some much easier.

    Also, a 1 of Slaughter the Strong so far has been really strong, I don't want to run more than one but most of the time I am really happy to draw it. Nice to be able to do a board wipe and keep a counter back on turn 5.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    UW Cycling is tough because they have a ton of counters and so much cycling to draw into whatever they need. What has worked best so far for me is don't let them resolve/keep their Abandoned Sarcophagus. Or run Savaging Grounds to wipe the graveyards. Allowing them to flash back everything thing in their yard is to much card advantage to overcome.

    Silent Gravestone is a new card that could help also. Seems very solid but have not tested it yet.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UW Approach
    Quote from Athelas »

    Notes about card choices:
    Baffling End is amazing. I'm not going below 4 any time soon. Scrounger didn't feel like threat anymore.

    Azor is way better than he seems. A lot of decks can't even kill him, and often one activation is game over.

    Nezahal is a must one-of in sideboard. If you are not severely behind, you won't lose after casting this.

    Arch of Orazca is very good 1-of. Search for Azcanta needs to go out vs Aggro, but Arch still gives free late game value if you and aggro both topdeck.


    Gratz on the nice results! And thanks for posting your list, it is very sweet.

    Glad to hear about Azor, I have wanted to try him by not quite sure how good he is. I will definitely do some playtesting with him. Same with Nezahal.
    I really hate suggesting making changes to a winning list but... I would suggest at least one Ixalan's Binding. It has done so much work for me against almost every deck. Just my 2 cents, your mileage my vary.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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