My read on you was holistic.
BoP (pushing on Vi-town and me-obvtown), PoE (I had reservations about all others Iso included), posts that worked OK from scum (unfortunately you being good at scum made it easier to believe you could post like you did here as scum).
You represented the Vi piece of that as the whole argument and said that because it (or something similar) also applied to other people it should not be held against you.
I think an Iso lynch might've been possible that day had a little more time been available.
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I was very glad to hit scum this game after missing in game 1.
I still think game one town didn't play so awful (we did lynch scum d1 and we'd have had a very good chance without the scum-innocent), but it was good getting the win this time.
Apologies to Thor for mislynching him through his friendly neighbor role.
The way that went down with the deadline looming was pretty unfortunate.
I regard RB doc 1shotvig FN as totally viable, and more likely than doc/FN/weakvig.
There are 4 roles, but none are at the cop / full vig tier.
They have extremely high potential to interfere with each other; Doc creates uncertainty about RB guilties, all other roles blockable by RB, Doc can block vigshot, vigshot can look like the missing mafia kill, RB / vig increase opportunity for FN action to fail.
Basically I'm not planning to lynch Iso if Nacho flips scum.
If Nacho flips scum, Iso becomes a full cop and we win the game GUARANTEED.
I hope you're the last scum trying to create some kind of hope for yourself, because otherwise you're derping.
If Iso is a town roleblocker, we win outright:
I am town
DGB is town
Iso is town
Cyan, Taredas, Cyouni, Tammy possible.
Scum presumably shoot DGB and Iso therefore confirms one of the 4 as town. Let's not target Tammy because it's probably not her, but if she is scum we do get her in the end.
We announce a permanent Isotarget so Iso can get another confirm the following night.
We lynch the two remaining. If scum nokill, we get a third lynch and can lynch the permanent Isotarget.
If Nacho flips scum, we win.
It's not worth DGB trying to protect somebody else for WIFOM, or Iso roleblocking me because derp maybe it's a scumvig and the setup is lolz.
If Nacho flips town, we have work to do, mostly involving lynching Iso and then choosing among Cyouni / Taredas / Cyan for the buddy (scum will prob NK Tammy).
Scum have to hit Iso, Iso's target, or nokill.
Nokilling on evens is horrible for them so I expect them to at least :try: to hit Iso or Iso's target.
Iso, please target Tar Cyan or Cyouni. Getting a conftown result on one of them would help us a lot.
DGB should probably protect Iso, assuming Nacho flips scum.
If Iso is NON-FAKECLAIMING town, we lynch Nacho and this game is well under control.
If Iso is FAKECLAIMING town, then Nacho is reasonably likely to also be town, and we will lynch both of them and lose.
If Iso is scum, then we will probably end up lynching Nacho today but will lynch Iso tomorrow and have a decent shot in lylo.
I will not tolerate "I lied about my role I'm really a VT but Nacho had to die" tomorrow. We lynch liars because scum lying and getting away with it wins games for scum and town lying lets the bad players in a town lead the good ones into totally unnecessary losses. Scum will not need any votes other than mine in order to lynch you (after a round of no-lynch, naturally), and we will lose.
In conclusion if you are town and fakeclaiming STOP.
No PR distribution not including DGB makes ANY sense anyway, so she's conftown.
Also, I may or may not have forgotten the existence of Cyouni while writing the preceding post.
Iso, why doesn't your posting at the end of yesterday sound like somebody in the "WTF WHY ARE THERE NOW 4 CLAIMED PRS IN THIS GAME WHEN I HAVE ONE TOO" situation?
Iso, if you are town and fakeclaiming, you are likely to lose us this very winnable game.
Please rescind your claim IMMEDIATELY if you are a VT.
DGB is playing a genuinely good scumgame if she's scum. It won't make my head explode, but I won't feel like I've lost to someone who totally didn't deserve to win. Same for Tammy.
So we get 3 shots at 2 scum in Nacho, Iso, Cyan, Taredas.
I don't particularly think FN, doc, 1shotvig is enough (vig should be full or at least multishot there).
So if Nacho flips scum, we lynch Taredas / Cyan in some order and probably win.
If Iso rescinds claim, we do not lynch Nacho.
FN+doc+1vig+(RB OR track) is very strong but FN + doc + 1vig is weak, so the PR distribution is inconclusive >_>
BoP (pushing on Vi-town and me-obvtown), PoE (I had reservations about all others Iso included), posts that worked OK from scum (unfortunately you being good at scum made it easier to believe you could post like you did here as scum).
You represented the Vi piece of that as the whole argument and said that because it (or something similar) also applied to other people it should not be held against you.
I think an Iso lynch might've been possible that day had a little more time been available.
I was very glad to hit scum this game after missing in game 1.
I still think game one town didn't play so awful (we did lynch scum d1 and we'd have had a very good chance without the scum-innocent), but it was good getting the win this time.
Apologies to Thor for mislynching him through his friendly neighbor role.
The way that went down with the deadline looming was pretty unfortunate.
There are 4 roles, but none are at the cop / full vig tier.
They have extremely high potential to interfere with each other; Doc creates uncertainty about RB guilties, all other roles blockable by RB, Doc can block vigshot, vigshot can look like the missing mafia kill, RB / vig increase opportunity for FN action to fail.
Basically I'm not planning to lynch Iso if Nacho flips scum.
I hope you're the last scum trying to create some kind of hope for yourself, because otherwise you're derping.
If Iso is a town roleblocker, we win outright:
I am town
DGB is town
Iso is town
Cyan, Taredas, Cyouni, Tammy possible.
Scum presumably shoot DGB and Iso therefore confirms one of the 4 as town. Let's not target Tammy because it's probably not her, but if she is scum we do get her in the end.
We announce a permanent Isotarget so Iso can get another confirm the following night.
We lynch the two remaining. If scum nokill, we get a third lynch and can lynch the permanent Isotarget.
If Nacho flips scum, we win.
It's not worth DGB trying to protect somebody else for WIFOM, or Iso roleblocking me because derp maybe it's a scumvig and the setup is lolz.
If Nacho flips town, we have work to do, mostly involving lynching Iso and then choosing among Cyouni / Taredas / Cyan for the buddy (scum will prob NK Tammy).
Vote: Nacho
Scum have to hit Iso, Iso's target, or nokill.
Nokilling on evens is horrible for them so I expect them to at least :try: to hit Iso or Iso's target.
Iso, please target Tar Cyan or Cyouni. Getting a conftown result on one of them would help us a lot.
DGB should probably protect Iso, assuming Nacho flips scum.
If Iso is FAKECLAIMING town, then Nacho is reasonably likely to also be town, and we will lynch both of them and lose.
If Iso is scum, then we will probably end up lynching Nacho today but will lynch Iso tomorrow and have a decent shot in lylo.
I will not tolerate "I lied about my role I'm really a VT but Nacho had to die" tomorrow. We lynch liars because scum lying and getting away with it wins games for scum and town lying lets the bad players in a town lead the good ones into totally unnecessary losses. Scum will not need any votes other than mine in order to lynch you (after a round of no-lynch, naturally), and we will lose.
In conclusion if you are town and fakeclaiming STOP.
Also, I may or may not have forgotten the existence of Cyouni while writing the preceding post.
Iso, if you are town and fakeclaiming, you are likely to lose us this very winnable game.
Please rescind your claim IMMEDIATELY if you are a VT.
DGB is playing a genuinely good scumgame if she's scum. It won't make my head explode, but I won't feel like I've lost to someone who totally didn't deserve to win. Same for Tammy.
So we get 3 shots at 2 scum in Nacho, Iso, Cyan, Taredas.
I don't particularly think FN, doc, 1shotvig is enough (vig should be full or at least multishot there).
So if Nacho flips scum, we lynch Taredas / Cyan in some order and probably win.
If Iso rescinds claim, we do not lynch Nacho.
FN+doc+1vig+(RB OR track) is very strong but FN + doc + 1vig is weak, so the PR distribution is inconclusive >_>
That would make sense.