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I don't like adding red for the Faithless looting effects. Eternal witness is a lot more important to get back your wincon of Rally the ancestors. Red would be a fourth color and much too greedy IMO. Besides, if you want a third, you can get Grisly SalvageYou don't need that many artists/cutthroates if you're filling your graveyard. It will just happen and you can rally and get two on the board. I don't suggest more than 6. I think 3 or 4 would work with enough graveyard fillers.
Quote from The_RedEye »Now Here's my thoughts on changes to experiment with and consider:
AGRO ARISTOCRAT COBMO!!! Satyr Wayfinder is great when it comes in but is useless after. Stitcher's supplier is good both coming in and out. That's 4 great targets for Cartel aristocrat. Persist and self replacers like Blisterpod and Doomed Traveler could be great 1 drop additions. I'd personally prefer Blisterpod or Young Wolf as free green mana chord tappers.Let's not forget to add Grim Flayer as an added third card to bin things. On a plus side, he's a mini goyf. As an even newer scary addition, Bob is a great draw engine that combos well with Grim Flayer. Something I think people haven't been abusing enough. And with sufficient sac outlets, is fine.I have been playing chord with Maralen of the Mornsong. It's a great EoT chord target to get your rally if you want to win the next turn. It's also a great response to search for your one or two anti graveyard hate. Then just sac it as neccessary so the opponent doesn't get a search.
Here's a skeleton of an agro decklist. Currently at 41 cards. Having a hard time deciding what to cut. Plus I don't think it has enough variety for grim flayer to be useful though dropping something for saproling migration sounds nice.
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4 Stitcher's supplier2 Viscera Seer4 Satyr Wayfinder4 Cartel Aristocrat4 Dark Confidant4 Blood Artist3 Grim Flayer4 Rally the Ancestors3 Eternal Witness4 Lingering Souls2 Liliana of the Veil3 Fatal Push19 lands
Still thinking about my chord variant if it's worth it. Really liked being able to chord maralen EoT to win or in response win by chording for the final piece like an artist or sac outlet. I'll give that some thought too
Quote from Shelldell »Between Wayfinder and Stitcher you can get enough creatures in your grave that Rally starts to become more attractive than Return. It can also return E-Wit, which is important to get discarded copies of Rally and CoCo back into hand. I think running all 8 Blood Artists is the way to go here. They power up your sac loops much more than fodder like Doomed Traveler / Voice, and we already have Stitcher, Wayfinder, Dorks, and Cartel Aristocrat to act as blockers.
I started with 7-8 copies of Return/Rally but IMO they're too boom/bust -- if your grave is full they're great, if you haven't drawn into your Stitchers or Wayfinders they just clog up your hand. 4 CoCo / 4 Rally seems like a better balance.
Quote from Shelldell »Overall probably still too fair and slow to be terribly competitive, lol. I've tried to build the sideboard around that... Ensnaring Bridge seems great for this deck since it doesn't necessarily need to attack.
Quote from Scarlatti »I have some good results with Vial Humans and 3 main Merieke ri berek instead of 2 little Thalia and an anafenza
Quote from jbhmickey »Alright, back to the potential 5-Color CoCo mana base...
I use this article as my guide when trying to build mana bases, and I've been playing around with the following:
1 Breeding Pool
4 Cavern of Souls
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Razorverge Thicket
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
4 Unclaimed Territory
4 Windswept Heath
Based on Karsten's rationale, this would give:
-12 natural green sources to cast CoCo by T3*
-9 natural white sources to cast Path*
-20 green sources for creatures
-17 white sources for creatures
-14 blue sources for creatures
-14 black sources for creatures
-14 red sources for creatures
*If you add 4 Hierarch and 2 Avacyn's Pilgrim, that would add an additional 2 green sources, 3 white sources, and 2 blue sources by the article's reasoning. That makes casting CoCo and path more viable earlier in the game.
I don't have Horizon Canopy available to me currently which is why it's not included. I could also see adding 1 Reflecting Pool or one Mana Confluence for one of the Thickets to hedge your bets with creatures.
I would appreciate any feedback you could offer, thanks!
Quote from kingcars »I'm honestly not 100% sure. My gut says that the Freebooter/MM/Sin Collector list is going to be better against the general meta since it has very good matchups with most of the popular decks, but I think if we can have a stable list that can utilize that alongside a fast clock like Mantis Rider, we could have the best of both worlds.