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  • posted a message on Jeskai Control
    False. While Teferi is seriously considered "the man" now, I have still seen Nahiri Harbinger decks played in side events and at a Classic. It does just fine. You will still have the same issues of dealing with graveyard based decks and hyper aggro though.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Jund
    I guess my only question concerning Nissa, Vital Force is this: Does she do anything in other matches? Seems like she would be decent in midrange mirrors as well, but I don't know how much help I need with that and if I'm as willing to risk 5 life there.

    I also keep hearing whispers in the wind that Dredge is on a murderous come back, but I've yet to see anyone online playing it. Is this the same for everyone else?
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I have always hated Choke. I think it's not that good against UW Miracles. It's somewhat decent against Jeskai Miracles though. Even so, it doesn't kill your opponent as tjd2191 said.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund


    That's currently what is sleeved up. I've been rotating a few cards in the configuration though. Recently I had one Collective Brutality in the main deck in place of Tireless Tracker with the idea being to keep my 25-land configuration and somehow get to 10 legit removal spells (I'm not counting Kolaghan's Command). It worked out kinda nicely, but control seems to be rampant. With that card being the weakest link, I took it out for Tireless Tracker. I still want to add another Lightning Bolt and Collective Brutality. I may dump a Scavenging Ooze and the sideboard Huntmaster for them. I'm also thinking about cutting a fetch land for another Raging Ravine.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I agree with everything said about Tireless Tracker. I currently play two of them in my current build, and it has helped me against UW a lot. That said, you will always be the underdog to UW control no matter what you do to your deck short of change it completely. That's just the nature of the beast. The only decent way to get them is to apply as much pressure as possible, which is why I have gone to cutting Liliana of the Veil against them and some number of discard spells to bring in Fulminator Mage, second Tireless Tracker, Kitchen Finks and almost anything else with leg in my sideboard. This is one of the few decks where I wish I had Nissa, Vital Force in my sideboard. I wouldn't care if it flipped over on a Bob trigger. Short of Teferi coming down, she's going to stick, and the value is incredible. Even with all these things that I do have, I still have to hope they stumble on spells or fall behind on lands. Also (and this is important), don't crack every single fetch land you get once you can comfortably cast your spells. I see people doing this way too often. The deck thinning is so marginal percentage-wise that I think it's better to save fetch lands as a good way to shuffle your deck after a Terminus or +2 from Jace on a crucial turn. Finally, while you don't need to run everything out there on curve into a sweeper, you can still fall behind by just not applying enough pressure.

    On a side note, decks with utility lands, such as UW control, are a reason I keep coming back to Alpine Moon for a sideboard consideration.

    I find the Jeskai match up far easier. I don't know why everyone feels that Jeskai has an advantage. It's really more about having the right cards to bring in. Play or draw matters way too much in this match though.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on UB(x) control
    Then what would I cut? Mono red Frenzy ia a problem for me as-is.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on UB(x) control
    The deck you are referring to is essentially mono-green splashing black. That's not the same deck I'm playing. I have played Thief of Sanity, but it seems much better suited to a midrange deck than a control deck. I really don't like that it gets caught up in my Ritual of Soot either. Assassin's Trophy actually seems pretty bad. I like that's it's cheap and can hit anything, but giving your opponent a land is really bad in many scenarios. I'd rather just play Vraska's Contempt possibly with other cheap green enchantment/artifact removal than play Trophy.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on [Deck] Jund
    I don't see how that game plan does anything significant for you currently. Jund is just straight up bad right now unless you've got some new tweaks I'm unaware of. If you're not playing blue cards, your deck has to do something busted. Playing fair magic is not "busted."
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on UB(x) control
    So I have been running a Dimir control/midrange deck that's been fairly solid. I thought I needed another finisher, but none of the creatures or planeswalkers really hit the mark. I ended up splashing green for Vraska, Relic Seeker. The initial build tested fairly well so I'm splashing a little more green in the sideboard. List looks like this:



    So far the only matchup it seems weak to is Mono Red Frenzy. I can easily switch things around to make that better. Just kinda wondering if anyone has thoughts on this build or their own builds to share.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on Jund
    I definitely like Nissa and Chandra more than Angrath. On Nilixis was decent as well the couple times I tried it. Playing Angrath for some corner case seems pretty bad and very "anti-Jund." I might try it anyway. This one just feels sketchy.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    @FlyingDelver, No doubt on the Twilight Mire/Damping Sphere.

    I am curious why I'm seeing this uptick in interest for Angrath, the Flame-Chained. It seems subpar to other choices we currently have available. For instance, why Angrath instead of Ob Nixilis Reignited, Chandra, Pyromaster or Chandra, Torch of Defiance?
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I honestly rhink too big a deal ia made of the Twilight Mire/Damping Sphere issue. I'm more concerned that it costs 2 mana. That's when I usually want to drop threats. That is also why i prefer Alpine Moon.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jeskai Control
    Quote from 0oSunnYo0 »
    Quote from chaos021 »
    I would really like to test Jund against one of you on anything not MTGO. I have had an entirely different experience.


    Do you use Xmage?


    Yes!
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Jeskai Control
    I would really like to test Jund against one of you on anything not MTGO. I have had an entirely different experience.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Jund
    The problem is sitting in your own explanation: "The problem with experience is all of us have experience." So what? Your short experience with something told you something counter to what a random person said so you decide it's probably wrong. However, you don't want to listen to people who have properly tested or actually just do legitimate testing of your own and present your results. You don't want to listen to people who are talking theory or statistical represetations of how things generally work. In short, it seems like you're just arguing to argue. So what do you want then? I don't mean in general terms. I mean tell us in very explicit, literal terms what you want, and please do your best with spell checking and grammar. Otherwise, I'm chocking you up to be a troll.
    Posted in: Midrange
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