Yonder Mountain
Land
Yonder Mountain enters the battlefield tapped add to your mana pool
At the beginning of your upkeep, add to your mana pool. This mana doesn't empty from your mana pool as steps and phases end.
"Look, it's that peak off in the horizon! We're almost there!"
I'm quite happy to see Zendikar at the top of the block awesomeness rating
(I know the fetches are artificially inflating that value shush)
You know, I thought a lot about whether or not to count a card more than once. For example, each Zendikar fetchland shows up in the top 300 for Modern, EDH and Legacy, plus I think they all show up in the top 100 for each format as well. Since I added together the top 100 and top 300 to come up with the awesomeness rating, the 5 Zen fetches count towards 30 points of Zendikar's 111 point awesomeness rating ((2pts per format x 3 formats) x 5 fetches = 30 points) My thought behind this is, if a card shows up in the top 100, why shouldn't it get 2 points instead of the 1 point a card that only shows up between the top 100 to 300 cards gets. Along the same lines, if a card is good enough to show up in all 3 formats, shouldn't it be considered better than a card that only shows up in 1? Ultimately, what I was trying to achieve was a non-biased point system to give some cards more value when trying to rate them, otherwise, on paper, a Deadshot Minotaur is as good as a Snapcaster Mage. Long story short, I wouldn't call it artificial inflation. Does that make sense?
Edit: When I first started counting up the cards for Modern I was using different hash marks for lands knowing they would have a huge impact, but then I scrapped it figuring lands are the most important cards in Magic. I could potentially post those (non-land) results as well if anyone is interested.
So there seems to be quite the debate going on here about the competitive viability of Theros block. I’ve found it a fun read. If possible, I’m going to agree with both sides. As it stands now, Theros has very few cards that are seeing competitive play outside of Standard. Personally I feel like Theros will be looked back on as very weak. With that being said, the last set of the block isn’t even out yet, and it seems to be the best of the block, so I wouldn’t be surprised if a few cards from the block start showing up in the near future. I don’t think we’ll see much right away though because I don’t see much that slots into already existing decks (except the Hatebears in sideboards) . The cards from Theros block will most likely need a new build around me deck to shine, if any end up doing so. Anyway, I posted a bunch of stats earlier in this thread about how many cards from each block see play in Modern according to MTGTOP8.com, I’ve gone ahead and added Legacy and EDH to the list. The list shows how many times a block has a card show up in the top 300, and top 100 most played cards in a particular format according to MTGTop8.com. FYI….cards only count for their original printing (eg. Shocks count for OG Rav but not RTR), except for the Modern count, which gives credit to the first Modern set it was printed in (eg. Terminate counts towards Shards for the Modern # but Planeshift for Legacy and EDH). Here are the results Top 300(Top 100):
This list, while not perfect, clearly shows that, at the very least, Theros has its work cut out for it. I know the block is still new, but I can’t see Theros surpassing even Shards on this list, which shows as relatively weak. A few things I found interesting….cards printed during the Modern timeframe represented 164 of the top 300 for Legacy and 158 of 300 for EDH, this isn’t counting cards that were printed in Core Sets during the Modern timeframe such as the Titans, M10 Checklands, Fauna Shaman, etc, so “Modern” cards represent an even higher percentage of the total. Also, people (myself included) often talk about power level rising steadily since Kamigawa, then falling again starting with Dragon’s Maze, according to these numbers, it was fairly consistent from Ravnica to Scars (except for Shards) and then began to fall off from there. Again, this could be because the cards haven’t been around as long. Anyway, as if this post wasn’t long and dorky enough, I’ve included the graph below to show power level from block to block. The number assigned to each block in the graph is the block’s total top 300 number plus its total top 100 number. I’m calling this number the block’s awesomeness rating. Hopefully someone gets something out of this other than I’ve got too much time on my hands. Here’s the chart:
Edit: The formatting of the results didn't post as I hoped. I don't know how to fix it, hopefully they're discernible as is.
Edit 2: Formatting better?
Hmm, I'm unconvinced. Can you check how many RtR cards were being played in modern before the release of Dragon's Maze? Or How many Innistrad cards before the release of Avacyn Restored? Some cards take a bit to be "discovered" especially those that go into combo decks. I'm willing to bet that by the third set, not all cards that will end seeing Modern play have already started seeing it.
I feel like there may be a few cards/abilities here that could generate some new deck(s) in Modern. I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I remain hopeful. My spidey senses are tingling about Constellation and Inspired, although I'm not sure they made the cards to break them, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.
See, I'm not totally pessimistic about this set(block). I hope we do see something new and powerful out of it!
There's a ton of potentially interesting Modern cards in this set. Most of them won't slot directly into a currently existing deck, but if they did that would be incredibly boring. Maybe none of them will pan out, but I know there will definitely be some interesting brewing going on for the next few months.
I agree. I see some potential in this set for Modern, and I am glad that to work the best cards for Modern from this set, it will require new decks. I am bored playing gainst the same Modern decks.
I agree with everything being said in these posts. I feel like there may be a few cards/abilities here that could generate some new deck(s) in Modern. I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I remain hopeful. My spidey senses are tingling about Constellation and Inspired, although I'm not sure they made the cards to break them, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.
I'd say this is the best set of the block, but that's not saying much. This block hasn't really had much that's seen play outside of Standard as of yet(not including EDH/tabletop)., and I don't see this set really changing that. Mana Confluence is the only thing I can see that will definitely be played outside of Standard I recently went through the top 300 cards in Modern and counted up how many times a card from each block appears. I realize Modern does not represent all of Magic (or even much for that matter), but I think the results are a good indication of the power level of the block, not to mention interesting for their own sake (at least I think so ). FYI...Cards that have been reprinted multiple times within the Modern timeframe are credited to their block of origin only (ie. Shocklands count towards Ravnica but not RTR block), older cards that were reprinted during the Modern timeframe count towards the 1st Modern block they appeared in (ie. Terminate counts towards Shards). The results are from MTG Top8.com. Here's the top 300 with top 100 appearances in parentheses:
Top 300 (Top 100)
Core Set: 31 (10)
Mirrodin: 23 (9)
Kamigawa: 8 (3)
Ravnica: 27 (17)
Time Spiral: 26 (5)
Lorwyn: 28 (10)
Shards: 17 (6)
Zendikar: 29 (11)
Scars: 28 (16)
Innistrad: 19 (8)
RTR: 15 (3)
Theros: 8 (2)
I realize the last set of the block isn't even out yet, and cards from Theros may become more powerful years from now when the meta has changed, but so far it has numbers comparable to Kamigawa as far as Modern is concerned, and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that the most powerful cards in Kamigawa are all banned in Modern. I'm not trying to complain here, the block was fun and all, I'm just trying to look at it from a competitive power level perspective.
Thanks for this analysis. I did something similar, and also did an analysis by community rating, and sure enough, THS is in the Kamigawa range. ISD is much better than these numbers tell, though. Several cards from ISD are the defining cards or their respective Modern decks.
I agree that Innistrad is better than these numbers tell. For instance, cards like Terminus, Entreat the Angels, Cavern of Souls, Craterhoof Behemoth, etc, actually see more Legacy play than they do Modern.
How about Blue Moon? I don't think I saw that anywhere. Also, if you're counting half the decks you are, I'm going to suggest Martyr Proc for mono-white as well.
What I'm getting from this data is that clearly core sets are awesome and WotC should print more core sets.
I'm pretty sure I'm sensing some sarcasm here. The funny thing is, Wizards apparently had the same idea back in 2009 when they started releasing yearly core sets instead of
bi-yearly. Personally, I wish they'd go back to bi-yearly, Wizards releases so much product these days its hard to keep up with, both financially and mentally. Unfortunately this seems to be going in the opposite direction with twice yearly duel decks, Premium Deck series, Commander, Planeschase, Archenemy, Conspiracy, Modern Masters, etc, etc, etc... I know Magic is a business, and businesses are supposed to make all the money they can, but I wonder if the market flood is good for the long term health of the game. I guess they know what they're doing though, after all they've been doing it successfully for 20 years now whereas I've been toiling away at my 9-5.
Edit: Again, I'm pretty sure you're joking about the Core Set thing, but I feel compelled to say, this list is including all Modern legal Core Sets, of which there are 8, most blocks only consist of 3 sets, therefore the Core Set card pool is much larger, which in turn gives Core Sets more opportunity to put cards into the top 300. Just sayin'.
Yeah, I'm pretty aware of the data biasing that's putting Core Sets up the top. That was more the reason for the tongue-in-cheek remark. I actually core sets - M13 was awesome and I'm very much hoping M15 lives up to they standard.
I will say though that method is an interesting way of looking at things, as opposed to vague "Innistrad was better" statements.
Yeah the core sets have had a lot of power in them. The problem I have with them being yearly is, you work to score an entire play set of $25 Thundermaw Hellkites only to have them rotate out within a few months, at least your play set of Stormbreath Dragons are good for a year plus.
As far as my statistical analysis is concerned, I also thought the results were interesting. I really felt like Innistrad is super powerful, whereas Theros is weak, the Modern numbers definitely show the "Theros is weak" point, but not as much the "Innistrad was powerful" one (it was towards the bottom of the list with only Kamigawa, Shards and Theros below it if I recall). One thing I think should be taken into consideration as far as Innistrad is concerned is, unlike other Modern sets, Innistrad has cards that show up in Legacy but not in Modern (see U/W/ miracles). At least I feel like that is unique to Innistrad. Can anybody else think of more Modern legal cards that see Legacy play but not Modern? There must be some.
Edit: I'm surprised Stormbreath doesn't show up more in Modern, the fact that it doesn't die to PtE seems like it should give it an edge over Thundermaw (who sees fringe play), but I guess Lingering Souls and Spectral Procession are cards.
Now see you're the second person to say something along those lines and I have to ask...You guys do know that countermand is a word right? Like an actual word with a definition? I.E. "to give an order or instruction that a previous order or instruction should not be followed" or "to recall somebody or something sent somewhere by a previous order". Like, okay, yes, I get that remand and countermand both have 'mand' in them, but they are separate words with separate and unique meanings and are both completely valid names for cards. So if you have a problem with the card express your problem with the card, don't take it out on the poor creative team who probably have a hard enough time finding names for counterspells as it is.
Gee, what a tough job. Took me like 3.4 seconds to come up with that one. Stop trying to teach me vocab, WoTC! It's bad enough I had to look up obstinacy.
I realize countermand is an actual English word that applies here, but I still think the name sounds like they jammed Counterspell and Remand together, and therefore I'm not a fan.
Edit: I can't wait until they spoil Countermand's sister spell, "Respell". It could be Redirect with mill 4 stapled on for 2 colorless more.
I'm pretty sure I'm sensing some sarcasm here. The funny thing is, Wizards apparently had the same idea back in 2009 when they started releasing yearly core sets instead of
bi-yearly. Personally, I wish they'd go back to bi-yearly, Wizards releases so much product these days its hard to keep up with, both financially and mentally. Unfortunately this seems to be going in the opposite direction with twice yearly duel decks, Premium Deck series, Commander, Planeschase, Archenemy, Conspiracy, Modern Masters, etc, etc, etc... I know Magic is a business, and businesses are supposed to make all the money they can, but I wonder if the market flood is good for the long term health of the game. I guess they know what they're doing though, after all they've been doing it successfully for 20 years now whereas I've been toiling away at my 9-5.
Edit: Again, I'm pretty sure you're joking about the Core Set thing, but I feel compelled to say, this list is including all Modern legal Core Sets, of which there are 8, most blocks only consist of 3 sets, therefore the Core Set card pool is much larger, which in turn gives Core Sets more opportunity to put cards into the top 300. Just sayin'. [/quote]
[/quote]Thank god they got rid of the Premium Deck series.
In terms of this set it is just bad. The gods are not good, the will all be less than 5 dollars in a month. Nothing really good for EDH except Silence the Believers.[/quote]
Hmmm...I was unaware of the fact that they did away with premium deck series. At the same time I'm complaining about a flood of product on the market, I'm kinda sad to see it go.
Edit: For some reason the quoting on this post is all screwy so I italicized my original statement and bolded Draymore's response to it.
I'd say this is the best set of the block, but that's not saying much. This block hasn't really had much that's seen play outside of Standard as of yet(not including EDH/tabletop)., and I don't see this set really changing that. Mana Confluence is the only thing I can see that will definitely be played outside of Standard I recently went through the top 300 cards in Modern and counted up how many times a card from each block appears. I realize Modern does not represent all of Magic (or even much for that matter), but I think the results are a good indication of the power level of the block, not to mention interesting for their own sake (at least I think so ). FYI...Cards that have been reprinted multiple times within the Modern timeframe are credited to their block of origin only (ie. Shocklands count towards Ravnica but not RTR block), older cards that were reprinted during the Modern timeframe count towards the 1st Modern block they appeared in (ie. Terminate counts towards Shards). The results are from MTG Top8.com. Here's the top 300 with top 100 appearances in parentheses:
Top 300 (Top 100)
Core Set: 31 (10)
Mirrodin: 23 (9)
Kamigawa: 8 (3)
Ravnica: 27 (17)
Time Spiral: 26 (5)
Lorwyn: 28 (10)
Shards: 17 (6)
Zendikar: 29 (11)
Scars: 28 (16)
Innistrad: 19 (8)
RTR: 15 (3)
Theros: 8 (2)
I realize the last set of the block isn't even out yet, and cards from Theros may become more powerful years from now when the meta has changed, but so far it has numbers comparable to Kamigawa as far as Modern is concerned, and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that the most powerful cards in Kamigawa are all banned in Modern. I'm not trying to complain here, the block was fun and all, I'm just trying to look at it from a competitive power level perspective.
What I'm getting from this data is that clearly core sets are awesome and WotC should print more core sets.
I'm pretty sure I'm sensing some sarcasm here. The funny thing is, Wizards apparently had the same idea back in 2009 when they started releasing yearly core sets instead of
bi-yearly. Personally, I wish they'd go back to bi-yearly, Wizards releases so much product these days its hard to keep up with, both financially and mentally. Unfortunately this seems to be going in the opposite direction with twice yearly duel decks, Premium Deck series, Commander, Planeschase, Archenemy, Conspiracy, Modern Masters, etc, etc, etc... I know Magic is a business, and businesses are supposed to make all the money they can, but I wonder if the market flood is good for the long term health of the game. I guess they know what they're doing though, after all they've been doing it successfully for 20 years now whereas I've been toiling away at my 9-5.
Edit: Again, I'm pretty sure you're joking about the Core Set thing, but I feel compelled to say, this list is including all Modern legal Core Sets, of which there are 8, most blocks only consist of 3 sets, therefore the Core Set card pool is much larger, which in turn gives Core Sets more opportunity to put cards into the top 300. Just sayin'.
I'd say this is the best set of the block, but that's not saying much. This block hasn't really had much that's seen play outside of Standard as of yet(not including EDH/tabletop)., and I don't see this set really changing that. Mana Confluence is the only thing I can see that will definitely be played outside of Standard I recently went through the top 300 cards in Modern and counted up how many times a card from each block appears. I realize Modern does not represent all of Magic (or even much for that matter), but I think the results are a good indication of the power level of the block, not to mention interesting for their own sake (at least I think so ). FYI...Cards that have been reprinted multiple times within the Modern timeframe are credited to their block of origin only (ie. Shocklands count towards Ravnica but not RTR block), older cards that were reprinted during the Modern timeframe count towards the 1st Modern block they appeared in (ie. Terminate counts towards Shards). The results are from MTG Top8.com. Here's the top 300 with top 100 appearances in parentheses:
Top 300 (Top 100)
Core Set: 31 (10)
Mirrodin: 23 (9)
Kamigawa: 8 (3)
Ravnica: 27 (17)
Time Spiral: 26 (5)
Lorwyn: 28 (10)
Shards: 17 (6)
Zendikar: 29 (11)
Scars: 28 (16)
Innistrad: 19 (8)
RTR: 15 (3)
Theros: 8 (2)
I realize the last set of the block isn't even out yet, and cards from Theros may become more powerful years from now when the meta has changed, but so far it has numbers comparable to Kamigawa as far as Modern is concerned, and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that the most powerful cards in Kamigawa are all banned in Modern. I'm not trying to complain here, the block was fun and all, I'm just trying to look at it from a competitive power level perspective.
Land
Yonder Mountain enters the battlefield tapped
At the beginning of your upkeep, add
"Look, it's that peak off in the horizon! We're almost there!"
FLCC'S
Land
Forests you control have
"If a garden is planted properly, there is no need to water it." -Dokai, Weaver of Life
FLCC'S
Edit: Sorry, I'm not sure if that's worded correctly. What I'm looking for is, all forests become Hinterland Harbor.
You know, I thought a lot about whether or not to count a card more than once. For example, each Zendikar fetchland shows up in the top 300 for Modern, EDH and Legacy, plus I think they all show up in the top 100 for each format as well. Since I added together the top 100 and top 300 to come up with the awesomeness rating, the 5 Zen fetches count towards 30 points of Zendikar's 111 point awesomeness rating ((2pts per format x 3 formats) x 5 fetches = 30 points) My thought behind this is, if a card shows up in the top 100, why shouldn't it get 2 points instead of the 1 point a card that only shows up between the top 100 to 300 cards gets. Along the same lines, if a card is good enough to show up in all 3 formats, shouldn't it be considered better than a card that only shows up in 1? Ultimately, what I was trying to achieve was a non-biased point system to give some cards more value when trying to rate them, otherwise, on paper, a Deadshot Minotaur is as good as a Snapcaster Mage. Long story short, I wouldn't call it artificial inflation.
Edit: When I first started counting up the cards for Modern I was using different hash marks for lands knowing they would have a huge impact, but then I scrapped it figuring lands are the most important cards in Magic. I could potentially post those (non-land) results as well if anyone is interested.
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Why are people afraid of clowns?
Mirrodin: Modern: 23(9) Legacy: 22(2) EDH: 13(3) Total: 58(14)
Kamigawa: Modern: 8(3) Legacy: 7(3) EDH: 6(1) Total: 21(7)
Ravnica: Modern: 27(17) Legacy: 12(2) EDH: 19(6) Total: 58(25)
Time Spiral: Modern: 26(5) Legacy: 28(6) EDH: 20(6) Total: 74(17)
Lorwyn: Modern: 28(10) Legacy: 17(6) EDH: 16(6) Total: 61(22)
Shards: Modern: 17(6) Legacy: 9(3) EDH: 6(2) Total: 32(11)
Zendikar: Modern: 29(11) Legacy: 21(11) EDH: 26(13) Total: 76(35)
Scars: Modern: 28(16) Legacy: 20(6) EDH: 19(8) Total: 67(30)
Innistrad: Modern: 19(8) Legacy: 16(9) EDH: 20(4) Total: 55(21)
RTR: Modern: 15(3) Legacy: 10(3) EDH: 8(3) Total: 33(9)
Theros: Modern: 8(2) Legacy: 2(0) EDH: 5(0) Total: 15(2)
This list, while not perfect, clearly shows that, at the very least, Theros has its work cut out for it. I know the block is still new, but I can’t see Theros surpassing even Shards on this list, which shows as relatively weak. A few things I found interesting….cards printed during the Modern timeframe represented 164 of the top 300 for Legacy and 158 of 300 for EDH, this isn’t counting cards that were printed in Core Sets during the Modern timeframe such as the Titans, M10 Checklands, Fauna Shaman, etc, so “Modern” cards represent an even higher percentage of the total. Also, people (myself included) often talk about power level rising steadily since Kamigawa, then falling again starting with Dragon’s Maze, according to these numbers, it was fairly consistent from Ravnica to Scars (except for Shards) and then began to fall off from there. Again, this could be because the cards haven’t been around as long. Anyway, as if this post wasn’t long and dorky enough, I’ve included the graph below to show power level from block to block. The number assigned to each block in the graph is the block’s total top 300 number plus its total top 100 number. I’m calling this number the block’s awesomeness rating.
Edit: The formatting of the results didn't post as I hoped. I don't know how to fix it, hopefully they're discernible as is.
Edit 2: Formatting better?
From my original post:
This doesn't have to be years from now.
See, I'm not totally pessimistic about this set(block). I hope we do see something new and powerful out of it!
I agree with everything being said in these posts. I feel like there may be a few cards/abilities here that could generate some new deck(s) in Modern. I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I remain hopeful. My spidey senses are tingling about Constellation and Inspired, although I'm not sure they made the cards to break them, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.
I agree that Innistrad is better than these numbers tell. For instance, cards like Terminus, Entreat the Angels, Cavern of Souls, Craterhoof Behemoth, etc, actually see more Legacy play than they do Modern.
Yeah the core sets have had a lot of power in them. The problem I have with them being yearly is, you work to score an entire play set of $25 Thundermaw Hellkites only to have them rotate out within a few months, at least your play set of Stormbreath Dragons are good for a year plus.
As far as my statistical analysis is concerned, I also thought the results were interesting. I really felt like Innistrad is super powerful, whereas Theros is weak, the Modern numbers definitely show the "Theros is weak" point, but not as much the "Innistrad was powerful" one (it was towards the bottom of the list with only Kamigawa, Shards and Theros below it if I recall). One thing I think should be taken into consideration as far as Innistrad is concerned is, unlike other Modern sets, Innistrad has cards that show up in Legacy but not in Modern (see U/W/ miracles). At least I feel like that is unique to Innistrad. Can anybody else think of more Modern legal cards that see Legacy play but not Modern? There must be some.
Edit: I'm surprised Stormbreath doesn't show up more in Modern, the fact that it doesn't die to PtE seems like it should give it an edge over Thundermaw (who sees fringe play), but I guess Lingering Souls and Spectral Procession are cards.
I realize countermand is an actual English word that applies here, but I still think the name sounds like they jammed Counterspell and Remand together, and therefore I'm not a fan.
Edit: I can't wait until they spoil Countermand's sister spell, "Respell". It could be Redirect with mill 4 stapled on for 2 colorless more.
bi-yearly. Personally, I wish they'd go back to bi-yearly, Wizards releases so much product these days its hard to keep up with, both financially and mentally. Unfortunately this seems to be going in the opposite direction with twice yearly duel decks, Premium Deck series, Commander, Planeschase, Archenemy, Conspiracy, Modern Masters, etc, etc, etc... I know Magic is a business, and businesses are supposed to make all the money they can, but I wonder if the market flood is good for the long term health of the game. I guess they know what they're doing though, after all they've been doing it successfully for 20 years now whereas I've been toiling away at my 9-5.
Edit: Again, I'm pretty sure you're joking about the Core Set thing, but I feel compelled to say, this list is including all Modern legal Core Sets, of which there are 8, most blocks only consist of 3 sets, therefore the Core Set card pool is much larger, which in turn gives Core Sets more opportunity to put cards into the top 300. Just sayin'.
[/quote]Thank god they got rid of the Premium Deck series.
In terms of this set it is just bad. The gods are not good, the will all be less than 5 dollars in a month. Nothing really good for EDH except Silence the Believers.[/quote]
Hmmm...I was unaware of the fact that they did away with premium deck series. At the same time I'm complaining about a flood of product on the market, I'm kinda sad to see it go.
Edit: For some reason the quoting on this post is all screwy so I italicized my original statement and bolded Draymore's response to it.
I'm pretty sure I'm sensing some sarcasm here.
bi-yearly. Personally, I wish they'd go back to bi-yearly, Wizards releases so much product these days its hard to keep up with, both financially and mentally. Unfortunately this seems to be going in the opposite direction with twice yearly duel decks, Premium Deck series, Commander, Planeschase, Archenemy, Conspiracy, Modern Masters, etc, etc, etc... I know Magic is a business, and businesses are supposed to make all the money they can, but I wonder if the market flood is good for the long term health of the game. I guess they know what they're doing though, after all they've been doing it successfully for 20 years now whereas I've been toiling away at my 9-5.
Edit: Again, I'm pretty sure you're joking about the Core Set thing, but I feel compelled to say, this list is including all Modern legal Core Sets, of which there are 8, most blocks only consist of 3 sets, therefore the Core Set card pool is much larger, which in turn gives Core Sets more opportunity to put cards into the top 300. Just sayin'.
Top 300 (Top 100)
Core Set: 31 (10)
Mirrodin: 23 (9)
Kamigawa: 8 (3)
Ravnica: 27 (17)
Time Spiral: 26 (5)
Lorwyn: 28 (10)
Shards: 17 (6)
Zendikar: 29 (11)
Scars: 28 (16)
Innistrad: 19 (8)
RTR: 15 (3)
Theros: 8 (2)
I realize the last set of the block isn't even out yet, and cards from Theros may become more powerful years from now when the meta has changed, but so far it has numbers comparable to Kamigawa as far as Modern is concerned, and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that the most powerful cards in Kamigawa are all banned in Modern. I'm not trying to complain here, the block was fun and all, I'm just trying to look at it from a competitive power level perspective.