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What is a better card... Thorn Elemental or Pelakka Wurm? It doesn't also dispute the point that WOTC prints garbage rares all the damn time. Wizards also made mistakes on rarity all the damn time. Wurm should have never been an uncommon. The card has psuedo evasion, a good and relevant ETB effect and replaces itself when it dies. That is a rare power level card
Cool, i agreed that Pellaka Wurm is a rare worthy card. So the question is why reprint it in the core set? Who asked for it? Specially been upshifted at RARE. Just leave it alone at uncomon and reprint soemthing else in dire need, not reprint a uncomon at rare just cause. The Pellaka Wurm is more agregious, unlike the Djinn of Wishes, is the rarity upshift of a reprinted card that noone asked for.
Quote from WarMachinePrime »Quote from WizardMN »Which is, of course, the issue with this discussion and the way it has gone so far. This may be true for *you*. I am willing to accept that this may even be true for a majority of competitive players. My experience, as well as others in this thread, show that in a limited format, this card is good. It is not worth money, but honestly, 5 of my 7 rares were not worth anything in my sealed pool (luckily I opened an Ajani). I would have liked my promo to be a bomb instead of a useless card. I would have liked to have a card that made my pool better. I did not make money on my sealed pool with the promo I had. If I had a Wurm, I would not have either. However, with the Wurm, maybe my pool would have been good enough to go 3-1 or 4-0 which means I could then have made money on the prizes.Quote from WarMachinePrime »I'd take either one of those cards in a heartbeat over PW. Sure they will suck in Draft, but I'm looking longer term. I see 6 and 8 bucks respectively vs. 1 buck currently. Possible fringe play down the line in an Eternal format as well. I see the for draft aspect, I just don't think it should seemingly be defaulted to always.
I am not suggesting that your complaints and concerns as not valid in the terms of Pack EV or value in a sealed pool. However, when you say thing like "100% feel bad" this suggests that you are entirely focused on one aspect of a set: the value in packs. And this is not what everyone is looking for. Not everyone opens packs for value. Some want to play the game. And some want to play the game via the Draft or Sealed formats and do well. Bombs like this allow those players to do well and putting it at rare allows that without warping the limited environment.
Way more people crack packs for fun/casual/
collectibilitythan those that are cracked to draft
This is more accurate. Way more packs are cracked for fun and by casual players than will ever be opened by limited players *or* collectors. The latter already know cracking packs will not get them what they want; they just buy the cards. The former are a group of players that nowhere near rivals that of casual players. And, I would reiterate what I said a bunch of posts back: a casual, for fun, player who just wants to play the game will most likely have no issue opening this as their rare. I have taught a number of people how to play and one in particular immediately gravitated to the Pelakka Wurm that was part of the cards I gave them. They had no concern of the value of their cards; they just wanted to play. And Wurm is enticing to play with.
Okay, I'll capitulate a bit. How about 99% feels bad?
They could have put Worldspine Wurm or Craterhoof Behemoth at lowered rarity in that slot instead. And if not those how about Avatar of Might or Terastodon staying at rare. Would have hit the big green Timmy card for draft/limited AND provided a more valuable reprint for those in constructed. Or how about just designing a NEW big green creature and printing it in that slot. One that could hit the draft diehards but also be of possible use the 99% of the rest of playership. I'm not letting Wizards off the hook on this one and many are willing to give them a pass on these poor decisions when it comes to value and/or constructed playability.
I hear what you say and agree with part of it. Just because its right for a tiny sliver of playership doesn't make it right for the MAJORITY of playership. It should have been left at uncommon, period. I've got to leave it at that.
Quote from gkourou »Quote from thesedaiv »I can only see Stoneforge Mystic POSSIBLY getting unbanned. I don't see anything else listed getting unbanned.
If anything was to get banned, I'm thinking one or two of the following...
Search for Azcanta
Noble Hierarch, Search for Azcanta and Scapeshift are never getting their names on that list. Ever.
Quote from thatmarkguy »Used to be my favorite card to Shallow Grave. Alas, reserved list and the dropping of mandatory graveyard sequencing make that not in play this time.
I guess we'll have to settle for Goryo's Vengeance. They spoiled Flash and Hulk together, woulda been funny to spoil Bolas and GV together. C'mon, GV!