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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from Godrik1374 »
    First, people should know how to play against UR Phoenix.

    The dude who finished first this weekend with Grixis Shadow did beat UR Phoenix in final.

    He said that both gds and phoenix want the draw in that matchup as it's a battle of raw resources. Phoenix needs a critical mass of cards in hand to function.

    So.. If you are playing a control/midrange deck. Choose the draw against UR Phoenix. It'll help.

    (just a lil advice (= ) Worked for him.
    I think this is a very good point and also, I think that's why GB midrange is doing well against Phoenix.
    My opinion, play B based decks, with 4-6 discard spells and removals and you should be set for the Phoenix matchup at about 55%.

    In top 32 of GP Tampa (I think) was also a UB Faeries deck with 6 discard spells and Kalitas. Faeries have a very good Phoenix MU and with this build it is even better, I would argue at around 55-60%. You have enough removal to battle their TiTis and enough champ blockers for Phoenix with BB, until you can actually win the game. Also, the SSSs basically counter the entire deck.

    In general, if you want to beat Phoenix, go B+something. That something should be to compensate for your other MUs.
    Also, make sure you are packing some kind of mainboard GY hate, not so much for the Phoenix MU, but for dredge and because it hits other things as well. That should be Surgical if you have ways to discard it/shuffle it back (i.e. Jace, Collective Brutallity etc.) or Nihil Spellbomb.

    Play two colors so you can run 3-4 Field of Ruins to make the Tron MU a bit better pre-board and not scoop to it. It is also good to fight against Amulet.

    If you are on control (Uw or Ub) pack 3-5 sweepers.

    I believe that there is a way to battle the current meta with midrange control decks, but that way is definitely 2 colored and possibly B based.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    One of the best analyses of the UR Phoenix deck out-there by Corbin Hosler: https://twitter.com/chosler88/status/1107492622917091328?s=21&fbclid=IwAR0iRcuHOBSjOQ7n0zsEdC_-qWqXXLPuGAUBoDzM9enclwbwigAm2q1s7Pg

    Besides doomsaying and ban-preaching, this is the world we are currently living in, try and beat it Smile Phoenix is very much the best deck atm, but it is VERY far from unbeatable (and very far from Tier 0 Eldrazi levels). Just as it has been mentioned previously, people could win against Pod, or TC Delver. Find a way and beat the bird, until we see a ban (which for me is very likely at this point).
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from cfusionpm »

    Relevant post, buried on the previous page:
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    They printed a shape-shifting 2-drop Eldrazi, and suddenly Eye of Ugin was the problem.
    They printed Prized Amalgam, Insolent Neonate, and Cathartic Reunion, and suddenly Golgari Grave-Troll was the problem.
    They printed Become Immense, and suddenly Gitaxian Probe was the problem.
    They printed Creeping Chill and Arclight Phoenix, and suddenly Faithless Looting is the problem.

    Maybe they should stop printing things that get busted free or extremely cheap effects?
    Well, all these cards had minimal to zero effect in Standard, and they are pretty interesting and creative designs. So no, there is no way they will stop printing interesting cards for the sake of Modern, and that is a good thing.

    Because Modern can be fixed with a ban/unban or with the printing of specific cards. If they stop printing interesting cards neither modern nor standard will move forward. It is specific cards that were/are borderline anyway (i.e. gitaxian probe or faithless looting), that get pushed when they get a critical mass of interesting cards. These are the problems, and that is why wizards is banning them. Because even if they ban creeping chill now, there will be another GY related cards printed that will make Looting broken again. Hence you ban Looting. The design process should not stop being exploratory and creative.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)


    Same story at the other GP as well (source). Phoenix IS the deck to beat. Next events people need to figure out to hate it out, otherwise after the MC it will be banned. Sell/buy accordingly.

    Also:
    #MTGBilbao Quarterfinal results:
    -Thomas Rasmussen (UR Phoenix) defeats Gabriel Comaposada (Valakut)
    -Guillaume Matignon (UR Phoenix) def. Lauge De Place (Dredge)
    -Joseba Garcia (Dredge) def. Julien Potier (Shadow Zoo)
    -Louis-Samuel Deltour (Whir Prison) def. Jan Stadler (Dredge)
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)


    From the ChannelFireball twitter (link). These numbers are pretty alarming unfortunately. Combining with how the SCG Open looked (don't know numbers) Phoenix right now shows really high performance.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    I have to say, that coverage of this week's Modern SCG Open has been garbage in terms of diversity viewing. We've watched a ton of Phoenix, a lot of Amulet Titan, and maybe a couple of other random decks (i.e. storm and Grixis Whir). No control or midrange decks. It is nice to watch Phoenix decks because they make for interesting gameplay, but after the 9th time, it gets a bit boring.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from cfusionpm »
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    I have a hard time wrapping my head around why people think Baleful Strix is too strong... It's a 1/1 for 2 that draws a card and profitably blocks a creature.
    You kind of answered yourself here I think. It's so strong that Grixis control in legacy plays more of it rather than the strongest blue creature, even if Legacy is literally filled with blistering fast nonsense!

    Is that really too strong for Modern, a format full of cheating mana, free spells and creatures, and an absolute multitude of 2-for-1 spells and creatures. It's incredibly sad to think ANYONE would consider Baleful Strix "too powerful", and it's honestly embarrassing, given the power level of the format.

    I don't know if it is TOO strong, it would require some playtesting, but the card is definitely VERY powerful. For once, the comparison with legacy stands, because it remains good in a format where aggro strategies (which it is supposed to be at its best against) are almost non-existent. In that, where 2-for-1s are even bigger, and card draw to get the right answers is much more stronger, it still remains one of the most powerful cards (although not meta warping obviously).

    Granted that modern is 1-2 turns slower than Legacy, and that creature based decks are more prevalent, I think Strix will be MORE powerful in Modern than it is in Legacy. That might push it over the top, and actually make it format warping, as you would have to go over it with either very hard control decks that don't care about it or combo decks that don't care about blockers. If the first becomes viable because of it, great. If the latter become more prevalent, not great. So yeah, I think it's a very powerful card that cuts both ways and I am not sure if they are willing to take the risk. Whether this is an embarrassing and really sad opinion, idk.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    I have a hard time wrapping my head around why people think Baleful Strix is too strong... It's a 1/1 for 2 that draws a card and profitably blocks a creature.
    You kind of answered yourself here I think. It's so strong that Grixis control in legacy plays more of it rather than the strongest blue creature, even if Legacy is literally filled with blistering fast nonsense!
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    A great article on the state of the meta and things you have to deal with if you want to succeed in the field. In particular, I like that Emma takes the Merriam approach that UR Phoenix is an actually fair(ish) midrange(ish) deck and not a combo deck as many people seem to (try and) play against. That being said, I don't think GDS should belong under the disruptive aggro category but rather at the midrange section. Humans is still probably the best creature based aggro deck http://www.starcitygames.com/articles/38419_The-Top-Tier-Of-Modern-In-2019.html
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    I don't understand so many people's utter disdain for Daze. At best it's a "free" Force Spike that sets you back on lands. And Force Spike is laughably irrelevant past about turn 3 or 4. Stubborn Denial isn't good because it 'Force Spikes' people, it's good because it Negates for 1 mana most of the time. Daze would be a fantastic addition to the toolbox for decks fighting degenerate nonsense in the first few turns.
    For once I generally agree here. The main differences that make Daze good in Legacy but not in Modern is: 1) relevance of turns 1-2 and 2) strong mana denial in the form of Wasteland (and less so Stifle).

    Decks that play Daze tend to play Wasteland and also be able to function with 1-2 lands for multiple turns (mostly Delver strategies). For these decks, being able to disrupt the opponent's T1 play is fundamental to their existence both because of the power of T1 plays in Legacy, as well as because they serve their own gameplan.

    At the same time, you don't see bigger blue based control or combo decks like Miracles or Sneak and Show, because they can't afford the loss of tempo of losing a land-drop.

    That is of course not to say that Daze won't be a powerful card, I just don't think it is going to be as powerful as it is in Legacy. My only concern would be UR Phoenix decks that might be able to abuse it to protect their TiTi's or their wide board, but I am not sure if they would even want it main board.

    That being said, I also don't think it's going to happen :p
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from gkourou »

    Personal bias; don't want to see Baleful Strix or Swords to plowshares, because those cards would both destroy GDS.
    DS exists in Legacy though with these cards legal Smile
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from pinkmex »
    good. the folks at wotc may **** up on aesthetics, design and storyline a lot, but at least they don't go around banning things idiotically (most of the time, i mean)
    Seems like you are playing the wrong game my friend.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Well I mean Maro did hint they finish the Sword Cycle with the Allied Pairs so for that reason you expect SFM to come off.
    Granted the issue is of course there is no place to reprint SFM and I suppose it might be useful to see if any equipment is busted without her.
    As far as I can tell SFM cannot be reprinted until the next Core Set? Since Ravnica has no Kors. Even if yes War of the Spark not focusing on traditional guild stuff.
    If they are planning to complete the Sword Cycle that is even more of a reason for them to keep SFM on the banlist exactly because they consider her dangerous (not that I agree, I am just pointing out).
    However, why would they have to reprint her? She was printed in rare so there is to shortage of stock. She was also a GP promo. They can also reprint her in a future master set or other complimentary product. How is the core set relevant?
    Posted in: Modern
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