The thread is actually 2 years old, but the last post has been added less than 4 month ago. I admit that we're not talking about yesterday or the last week, that's true.
I'm sorry if this is not the good thread to debate about a generic The Ur-Dragon deck, but I didn't find any primer for that commander. I'd be glad to post my doubts into the correct thread, so please point me at the right one.
It could be another cmc reducer, it's affected by The Ur-Dragon effect (and with Urza's Incubator it costs just 4) and it gives a +1/+1 to other dragons.
And if there's Fist of Suns in play, that means free dragons...
The question is, are there any cmc 3 Artifact Creatures worth including as redundant targets?
Maybe the Scuttlemutt as a mana dork and to force an opponent's creature to be black or white. Crystal Shard could rebounce our own creatures with ETB effects.
There's also Chromatic Lantern for a little bit of mana fixing, if needed.
You mentioned it as a replacement for it's mana cost, not it's abilities, but what relevance does the mana cost have, here?
My mistake: I didn't mention that I've thought about a 10 cmc to use with Birthing Pod and Artisan of Kozilek (to add a step to the Pod's chain, so to say), but its ability activates when you cast it.
It's still cheaper than Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, but I do agree that these two cards are uncomparable for their abilities.
It has the nice effect to put a card back on top of the opponent's library.
A 5/4 for 8 mana may be too costly, but it's colorless. And it has emerge, which may speed it a bit.
It could be another cmc reducer, it's affected by The Ur-Dragon effect (and with Urza's Incubator it costs just 4) and it gives a +1/+1 to other dragons.
And if there's Fist of Suns in play, that means free dragons...
Is it worth a try?
And maybe just a thought about Tome of the Guildpact...
They seem interesting, specially the legged pod...
Nicol Bolas, the Ravager, Chromium, the Mutable, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, but also Sarkhan's Unsealing, Sarkhan, Fireblood, Sarkhan, Dragonsoul...
Thank you Igzex for your deep analysis.
It seems to me that maybe some dragon is missing that should not considered as in the bottom category:
Maybe the Scuttlemutt as a mana dork and to force an opponent's creature to be black or white.
Crystal Shard could rebounce our own creatures with ETB effects.
There's also Chromatic Lantern for a little bit of mana fixing, if needed.
Any final thought about the complete Kaladesh spoiler?
Draw three or a maybe good damage...
Edit: there's also the invention version...
... but that's not the Kaladesh Inventions card of which I'm really interested.
But that card makes me feel that Animar will soon be banned in duel commander.
My mistake: I didn't mention that I've thought about a 10 cmc to use with Birthing Pod and Artisan of Kozilek (to add a step to the Pod's chain, so to say), but its ability activates when you cast it.
It's still cheaper than Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, but I do agree that these two cards are uncomparable for their abilities.
(for its cmc, not for its abilities ;))
It has the nice effect to put a card back on top of the opponent's library.
A 5/4 for 8 mana may be too costly, but it's colorless. And it has emerge, which may speed it a bit.
What do you think about it?