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  • posted a message on B & R Announcement 8/3 Major Shakeups
    Quote from user-11102155 »
    Quote from Melkor »
    The most baffling thing about this is why ANYONE still plays Standard or Pioneer. People whine about Modern bans, and they do suck, and Wizards SHOULD be yelled at for some of them, but unless I am missing something, they have banned moe cards from STANDARD in the last 12 months than in any 12 month period in Modern with the exception of only the initial announcement of the format. The same goes for Pioneer, also excluding the initial announcement. Buying into the two most hyped and supported formats in the last year is just lighting money on fire in a way Modern has NEVER been.


    i enjoy playing standard more than modern. i like the constant shift, the automatical force to rethink or change a deck. its a very dynamic format. and to be honest i really liked the old standard showdown booster, which were a really nice addon to these tournaments. sadly wizards even had to ruin those...

    and standard usually is a more interactive format than modern or pioneer, where so many decks simply ignore the opponent and just focus on their combo / win con

    i know people dont like change, i know standard in long term can be more expensive than modern (but hell, magic as a whole is), but it is my hobby and i am willing to pay for the fun. to me standard used to be a really good format (not just because it sells products for wizards)
    the problem is that this dynamic of constant change in standard is pricing out a lot of people out of the format. the problem is not in the dynamic itself but rather in prices of individual cards. buying into any reasonably competitive deck is not an option for a lot of people and the inability to liquidate cards at rotation (cards from standard do not translate well into other formats with few exceptions and in case of banning like those you are left with unsellable cardboard as well) does not help either.
    so in the end casual players are driven out of standard and leftover competitive metagame collapses to a handful of decks as we see now.
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Weekly MTG - Revealing the Rest of the Set and the Final Mythic rare is Imperial Recruiter
    poor guy. no hype left for this reveal.
    personaly i hope recruiter will somewhat drop in price so i can finally get one.
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  • posted a message on B & R Announcement 8/3 Major Shakeups
    Why is Growth Spiral banned?


    Almost 70% of decks in the arena tournament on Saturday (day 1) was using spiral. When a 2-color card appears in 70% of all decks... that isn’t a good sign.
    how many of those decks used uro? for that matter how many decks in that tournament used all these cards?
    i'm not saying those bans were uwarranted but rather that spiral would be fine with the other ones banned and if uro was banned as well. but as it was pointed out commons do not sell packs. :/

    i wonder how this bans will affect pioneer in long term. i would not feel confident in investing neither my time nor money into format where from time to time wotc decides to remove top decks because they are... well, top decks. if the underlying issue (which is that format warping cards are being printed in standard sets) will not be fixed then the same problem will arise sooner or later.
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  • posted a message on Set boosters (yet another new type of booster)
    I really wish Wizards made a booster that has known useful constructed cards only. But, Wizards wouldn't be able to keep the price down, because they know how much such cards are worth on the secondary market and would seek to maximize profit on the booster.


    I don’t... what does this even mean?

    Looking at MTGTop8, I count about 140 commons/uncommons that appear in at least %1 of Modern decks.

    Unless you are literally asking wizards to sell you a pack with 8-12 $5+ Rares in it and nothing else, the non-rares in each “set-without-chaff” would be the same because there simply aren’t enough of them.

    ...not that this is necessarily a bad thing, mind you. Having a non-draft set as a cross between a core set/masters set that has all of the non-rare staples and a rotating selection of chase cards would be pretty cool... though yeah, the price would be a bit absurd.
    140 playable non-rares in format with over 13k available cards seems abysmally insignificant. but that's modern where the competition for playability is steep so standard would be better example... except in standard the situation is similar, only a handful of non-rares are playable in consructed. it's obvious that most of the cards are designed to be chaff "because limited" which is really tiresome for people who wants to play constructed because it rises the cost of the game and prices out a lot of people.
    spreading constructed-useful cards through all rarities instead concentrating them in rares and mythics is what would really help the set to not give out the feeling that only rare/mythic slot in the pack can be worth something.
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  • posted a message on Fatal Push and it's a Box Topper
    is there any reason why box topper rarity is different?
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Avenger of Zendikar and Liege of the Tangle— Shivam Bhatt previews
    why is avenger >10$ anyway? it's not even that heavily used in commander decks.
    titania does not even need avenger (still it's a welcome reprint due to current price). 5/3s are better than 0/1s plants that you need to cultivate to make them bigger.
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  • posted a message on [2XM] - Cast Down at common
    Quote from Kryptnyt »
    Well that pretty much kills everything in pauper, can't actually think of any common legendaries that get played. It's funny they reprint Oubliette and obsolete it at the same time haha
    oubliette still leaves bb devotion which is relevant. not sure how much enchantment removal people are using main and sb right now. it's not worth to bring enchantment hate if people are not using pestilences in large numbers in mbc so oubliette seems to be still fine as 0-2 off complement to faster removal.
    looks like i need to track down a few of those japaneese promos now.
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Mothership 7/24— Salvage Titan and artifacts that want to die
    Quote from Kryptnyt »
    Quote from SpeedGrapher »
    That's another dollar rares. I understand that you get 2 rares in a pack but this doesn't belong in a premium product. They should just have made this set non-draft.


    Imagine how pricy packs could get if they literally weren't gambling though
    it looks like 2xm have the same distribution of junk cards through rarities as any other set but the ceiling for value is much higher.
    i think the complaint is that people would prefer wotc to stop justifying putting low value cards in packs by "it's for draft" bs.
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  • posted a message on [2XM] MagicTCG (reddit) - Skithiryx, the Blight dragon and Doomed Necromancer
    Quote from Xcric »
    so here's my other issue with this reprint one high value card, then reprint one really low value card.

    never even minding that its a premium product with a premium price tag... reprinting chaff like doomed necromancer ensures that the value of that card (and any other lower value reprint) can never, ever, climb in price. ever. the market just gets too saturated. so now you have cards that should be in the 2-3 dollar range that plummet to 25 cents and are just bulk - further solidifying that buying a booster is nothing more than a huge gamble where you either get something like skittles... or you might as well have just set fire to your cash. i don't think this is the right approach to reprints at all, even premium ones, as it devalues everything else around it to levels where you just won't bother.

    which, between the pricing of packs and the lower quality inclusions, well we're seeing it with this set. the whales buy in, the rest of us walk away. which would be fine, except we also see the same things happening with standard legal sets, and supplemental products.

    there needs to be a greater balance between prices. yes, wotc can't control the secondary market prices, but they can control whats reprint.

    there was a time where you could trade a few lower priced rares for a higher priced one, but that hasn't really been the case in a long time because the price disparity is so huge in a lot of cases. you don't work back toward that balance by reprinting crap no one needs or wants, like doomed necromancer, or the inevitable talrand reveal. you all know its coming. god forbid that card not get a reprint.

    this has also the effect that to compensate for lower gain from cards sold reasonably quickly as compared to cards that technically are worth something but people do not buy immediately due to market saturation) the shops will not drop prices of cards in actual demand as much. it's lose-lose situation for customers. :/
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Sneak Attack— NGA preview
    it's amazing how the diminishing campfire light harmonize with showcase frame.
    really nice throwback to artwork from sets from time of original printing with that mogg on the left. Smile
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Karn Liberated and the Tron Lands— Gamespot previews
    Quote from Simto »
    Found this on Twitter. Apparently the panorama Urzatron art has a lot more Easter eggs, namely:
    1) Strip Mine
    2) Defense Grid
    3) Extruder
    4) Urza's Factory
    5) Mana Matrix


    Karn still looks hideous, but I think less so in the whole image. It looks really cool when it's one big image. Love all the nods to old cards too. Very cool!

    Des anybody know if the Tron lands are box toppers or more like the new Cultivate?
    to me it looks like there is a lot less detail on individual cards than in previous tedin illustrations. like a lot less detail. on the other hand panorama looks like usual level of details, so... they just commisioned one piece and zoomed in?
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Blinkmoth Nexus and Glimmervoid— day9 previews
    Quote from milo_bloom »
    I usually don't buy a lot of Masters packs, but I love pulling the chaff out of the boxes at the LGS a couple months after release. I know these aren't exactly chaff, but maybe I can find reasonably priced copies down the road now.
    some of that "chaff" is worth something right due to scarcity now but will be a lot cheaper when people will crack packs and end up with them without demand. it's win for me as well because i would never buy those for their current price.
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  • posted a message on [2XM] Thoralf Severin and Arena boys - Engineered Explosives and Lux cannon
    Quote from Xcric »
    lux cannon?! Omg! Ive been wanting a reprint for years! I cant wait to run out and buy these packs for lux cannon! Take my entire paycheck!


    ....yeah no, **** off with this kind of garbage. Should have no place here.

    Explosives is a good reprint, but also not expensive any more so uh.. still no ****s given
    explosives are excellent reprint. not every rare needs to be jtms or something like that. explosives were hard to get and could be very expensive if meta shifted to decks using them. this will guarantee they will be available at low price for some time.
    lux canon on the other hand... noone will buy this card from someone who pulled it. there is no reason for it to be in rare slot.
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  • posted a message on Banned and restricted announcement July 13th
    I'm surprised about pioneer. Unbaning Oath is fine but are there no other banlist moves that can help the format? The attendance have been dwindling for quite some time and I doubt that it is just because of lack of big paper tournaments and ability to play it in LGSs.
    Are there any other moves planned to support pioneer?

    Quote from JuiceBOX »
    Saying Uro should be banned and Splinter Twin unbanned is the funniest ***** I have ever heard.
    Why do you find this funny?
    While I do not think Uro should be outright banned it is slowly getting there. The ubiquity of this card means that formats homogenize and diversity decreases. It would not be a problem if the effects it provides allowed for diversity of uses, but they do not and the games involving this card become repetitive. I do not think that is what most players seek when they play this game.
    At the same time Twin was unnecessarily banned (or rather it was banned to increase visibility of new cards) and it would be perfectly fine to unban it with current cardpool and meta.
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  • posted a message on Banned and restricted announcement (offical announcement)
    Quote from Dunharrow »

    That is not correct. Convoke always allowed you to tap creatures for color.

    Originally, convoke was an additional cost that reduced the cost in mana. With the return of convoke in Magic 2015, the rules for convoke changed to their current form as an alternative way of paying a mana cost. This affects how it interacts with, for example, Eldrazi Spawn tokens' sacrifice-based mana ability (mana abilities must be activated before paying costs), and effects such as Trinisphere that care about total costs.

    Quote from WizardMN »
    Quote from migrena »
    Convoke was significantly changed when it was reprinted. Initially only generic mana could be paid with convoke and now colored mana can be paid as well with matching creature.
    That isn't what changed. They only changed that you could no longer "overpay" for a spell with Convoke, changing it from a cost reduction to a payment method. It was always able to pay for colored mana.

    EDIT: Oh, Dunharrow got to it before me Smile

    Ah, I stand corrected. It happened quite long time ago and WotC does not use any versioning system on the rules.

    Quote from Crispen_Smith »
    This may be a stupid question but what happened with all the Gyruda, Doom of Depths hype? For a couple of days I couldn't escape the idea of turn 0 and turn 1 wins, and now it isn't a blip.
    Apparently tentacles are quite delicious and cats and foxes have eaten all of them.
    But seriously, Gyruda is Charbelcher style nondeterministic glass cannon deck and it's easier to produce more consistent results with other decks. It's still a playable deck across the formats but not good enough to get to top places.
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