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  • posted a message on the party continues with kamigawa leaks -- Thousand-Faced Shadow
    Even with the extremely specific wording on the ability, there are still few ways to use it outside of Ninjutsu.

    Ilharg, the Raze-Boar
    Maskwood Nexus + Kaalia of the Vast
    Maskwood Nexus + Strefan, Maurer Progenitor + 2 Blood Tokens

    It's honestly impressive that they managed to limit it so much just by carefully layering "from your hand" and "if it's attacking," even if the wording is a bit clunky and lengthy as a result. Otherwise, this thing would be crazy breakable.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [NEO] art from the story building panel
    I wonder if part of the discomfort is the fact that MtG is a multi-world kind of story, with an explicit premise of cross-contamination between planes. It's one thing when a primary component is people or magic, those aren't necessarily replicatable, but when items are introduced, it suddenly feels a lot weirder. Sure, this DJ feels like a character that exists on the new Kamigawa, but how would it look if that turntable showed up on Innistrad? If a world with guns got introduced, there would no doubt be a Planeswalker to go with it, so how would they be looked upon on Kaladesh? Would Kaladesh end up making guns too? Ravnica seems to be the exception in a lot of ways, as it seems to embody the concept of "anything can happen in the city" and it was built with mass diversity in mind.

    I wonder if this juxtaposition strangeness is why certain Planeswalkers don't show up outside of their homes very often. We've yet to see Saheeli anywhere beyond Kaladesh and Ravnica, for example.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [NEO] Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire and Eiganjo Uprising
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    Might seem like a lot, but with a transformed Avabruck Caretaker on the field, cast this pre-combat and swing with X 4/4 samurai who are in desperate need of a coffee.

    My mind is demented that way.

    'buster


    Honestly, it wins points for flavor. A deck with that goal in mind could easily be called 47 Ronin or The Night Attack on the Sanjo Palace,
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [NEO] Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire and Eiganjo Uprising
    I'll be honest; I totally forgot about those. Five years is a long time to not think about a pretty meh land cycle.

    Are there any cycles currently missing allied lands?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [NEO] Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire and Eiganjo Uprising
    Quote from IzzyCatz »
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    By the way

    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/electrifying-first-look-kamigawa-neon-dynasty-2021-12-16

    Second art down look at name at bottom left of it they sometimes mention the card name on the art.

    You might notice something alarmly identical about the name



    The name is similar, but I can't even match the art to any of the buildings. So is this a variant art? or fake?


    The image from this thread wouldn't be a variant. Card number is 258/302, and variants all lack the X/Y printing on the collector's number.

    If it's a real card, that's a staggering amount of lands in this set though. We know for a fact that there are ten Ukiyo-e lands, which brings the number closer to 258/292, and there may be yet more basic lands (if we assume an additional 3 per basic type, that makes the final count 258/277) but that still means minimum 20 lands, because we know that Eiganjo won't even be the first! We already got confirmation that Boseiju will be getting a return.

    There were 20 lands throughout the entirety of the original Kamigawa block.

    I imagine all of the legendary lands will get a callback of some kind, as seen with Eiganjo and the art for Boseiju (though perhaps not Tomb of Urami or Oboro, since they were somewhat off cycle). I think the two color lands (Cloudcrest Lake and the like) will get replaced by the ally colored versions of the Snarl lands. I think Forbidden Orchard and Tendo Ice Bridge will likely be completely replaced though. Probably something else put in to show off the "new" side of Kamigawa.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on No More Premiere D&D (Standard Legal Sets) Sets according to Mark Rosewater's blog
    We knew about that 11 days after this thread was made, and it was a little over a month after the release of AFR. I believe it was even explained then that it was to fit all the stuff they couldn't put into the main set to avoid getting too complex. I agree, in that I don't think it's likely we see another D&D set in Standard, but that's more because WotC has other crossovers to do, a story to try and tell, and Standard sets are a limited commodity.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [NEO] Satoru Umezawa - @wizards_magic preview
    Quote from DJK3654 »
    Better get your Hall of the Bandit Lord's now before they spike in price.

    Wonder If Satoru Umezawa will get a preemptive ban like what happened to Lutri, the Spellchaser in Ikoria?

    Hall of the Bandit Lord doesn't work with Ninjitsu because you're not casting a spell.


    I think it's just so that you can attack instantly with any other creature when an opportunity to go unblocked presents itself.

    EDIT: So that you're guaranteed a better shot at Ninjutsu, just to be clear.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Kamigawa neon dynasty trailer (also sneaky preview of kaito)
    Of note, this isn't the trailer. This is the Teaser. This is more akin to this video on Kaldheim, than the actual trailer that came out later.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UNF] Mothership 11/29 — Unfinity sneak peek
    I really wonder whether or not they thought through calling it "Acorn Magic." Feels like it's only a matter of time before it gets referred to as "Nut Magic" and causes some kind of backlash from Brand Management.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UNF] Mothership 11/29 — Unfinity sneak peek
    While I agree with your statement that MaRo probably has a better idea of the general state of things than any anecdotal evidence from the members of this forum, I do want to say something. I wouldn't say that he's a liar, but MaRo definitely has biases, and unfortunately, data may be objective, but data analysis is not.

    The classic example is Battle for Zendikar block. One of the best sellers in Magic: The Gathering's history. Why did it sell well? It wasn't because the set was good, it was because it had super-rare ultra-special chase cards. We know that because MaRo was incredibly harsh on the set's quality...after a year had passed and he could safely say all of that stuff without hurting sales.

    Which is another thing. He's also in the precarious position of being a public figure that answers a lot of personal questions and reveals some stuff behind the scenes, but also at the end of the day is beholden to WotC and can't really say anything that could potentially mess up the marketing of a product.

    MaRo is a ruthlessly optimistic person, with a deep and abiding love of many aspects of the game...but not all of them. And that combination leaves a whole lot of blind spots.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UNF] Mothership 11/29 — Unfinity sneak peek
    I love silver-border cards. I understand why they decided to do this, and the cards they've presented look fun, but I do not like this black-border change. I honestly think it's going to be more confusing long term than silver-border ever was.

    EDIT: The fact that they also messed up on some of the first previews in conveying which was legal and which wasn't is a bad sign.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Product Fatigue by the Numbers
    I mean, quality and quantity are frequently correlated. Those feelings are definitely understandable.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Product Fatigue by the Numbers
    I had a different stat based thought while I was reading your post, so here's some more data!

    The amount of new cards introduced in a given year. Direct reprints were ignored, but functional reprints were not as those are still technically "new" cards. Associated products (Planeswalker Decks, Commander Decks, etc) were wrapped up into the "set" totals. My numbers may be off here, as it's quite difficult to go through every set looking for reprints without wasting a lot more time than I did.

    2015:

    Fate Reforged: 161
    Dragons of Tarkir: 233
    Magic Origins: 180
    Battle for Zendikar: 232
    Commander 2015: 56
    Total: 862

    2016:
    Oath of the Gatewatch: 179
    Shadows Over Innistrad: 270
    Eldritch Moon: 197
    Conspiracy: Take the Crown: 80
    Kaladesh: 246
    Commander 2016: 56
    Total: 1,028

    2017
    Aether Revolt: 188
    Amonkhet: 241
    Archenemy: Nicol Bolas: 20
    Hour of Devastation: 186
    Commander 2017: 56
    Ixalan: 246
    HASCON 2017: 3
    Unstable: 247 (each mechanically different version of cards like Garbage Elemental were counted)
    Total: 1,187

    2018
    Rivals of Ixalan: 178
    Dominaria: 233
    Battlebond: 85
    Global Series: Jiang Yanggu & Mu Yanling: 30
    Core Set 2019: 200
    Commander 2018: 59
    Guilds of Ravnica: 234
    Game Night 2018: 5
    Total: 1,024

    2019
    Ravnica Allegiance: 242
    War of the Spark: 247
    Modern Horizons: 209
    Core Set 2020: 174
    Commander 2019: 59
    Throne of Eldraine: 269
    Ponies: The Galloping: 3
    Mystery Booster Draft: 121 (test-cards, which will be given their own subtotal)
    Game Night 2019: 5
    Total: 1,208 (1,329 if test cards are included)

    2020
    Theros Beyond Death: 247
    Unsanctioned: 16
    Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths: 299
    Core Set 2021: 182
    Jumpstart: 37
    Zendikar Rising: 262
    Secret Lair: Walking Dead: 6
    Commander Legends: 171
    Total: 1,220

    2021
    Kaldheim: 283
    Strixhaven: School of Mages: 355
    Secret Lair: Stranger Things: 9
    Modern Horizons 2: 255
    Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms: 319
    Innistrad: Midnight Hunt: 279
    Innistrad: Crimson Vow: 283
    Total: 1,783

    So, yeah, no wonder keeping up with cards is difficult!

    (I do find it interesting that the number of new cards doesn't wholly correlate with the amount of products released in a given year. Given that reprints are still marketed as heavily as new cards, I don't think it takes away from the fatigue, but it's an interesting fact to note.)
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Product Fatigue by the Numbers
    So, around this time last year, an argument occurred in the Rumor Mill discussing product fatigue, and the growth in product amounts over the last few years. I was curious, and had some free time, so I made an extensive list of the products that had been released since 2015. Any time a product had it's own individual name, or was the only way to get a certain card, I added it to the list.

    Well, I got curious what things were like this year, especially since we know most if not all the products coming out till January, and decided to do some updating.

    Here is a product list, separated by year and individual component. Booster Pack Boxes are listed separate from booster packs when a promotional card or pack was attached to its purchase (barring Unstable and Iconic Masters, due to the Treasure Chest packs being primarily Ixalan, with the offer eventually extended to those two later.)

    Also excluded: Promotional cards from tournaments (including pre-releases), and the Big Box Repackage promotional cards.

    2015
    1. Fate Reforged Draft Booster Pack
    2. Fate Reforged Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Fate Reforged Bundle
    4. Fate Reforged Intro Pack: Unflinching Assault
    5. Fate Reforged Intro Pack: Cunning Plan
    6. Fate Reforged Intro Pack: Grave Advantage
    7. Fate Reforged Intro Pack: Stampeding Hordes
    8. Fate Reforged Intro Pack: Surprise Attack
    9. Fate Reforged Clash Pack: Power vs Profit
    10. Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Kiora
    11. Dragons of Tarkir Draft Booster Pack
    12. Dragons of Tarkir Draft Booster Pack Box
    13. Dragons of Tarkir Bundle
    14. Dragons of Tarkir Intro Pack: Massed Ranks
    15. Dragons of Tarkir Intro Pack: Enlightened Mastery
    16. Dragons of Tarkir Intro Pack: Cruel Plots
    17. Dragons of Tarkir Intro Pack: Relentless Rush
    18. Dragons of Tarkir Intro Pack: Furious Forces
    19. Dragons of Tarkir Event Deck: Landslide Charge
    20. Modern Masters 2015 Draft Booster Pack
    21. Magic Origins Sample Deck: White
    22. Magic Origins Sample Deck: Blue
    23. Magic Origins Sample Deck: Black
    24. Magic Origins Sample Deck: Red
    25. Magic Origins Sample Deck: Green
    26. Magic Origins Draft Booster Pack
    27. Magic Origins Draft Booster Pack Box
    28. Magic Origins Bundle
    29. Magic Origins Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    30. Magic Origins Intro Pack: Brave the Battle
    31. Magic Origins Intro Pack: Take to the Sky
    32. Magic Origins Intro Pack: Demonic Deals
    33. Magic Origins Intro Pack: Assemble Victory
    34. Magic Origins Intro Pack: Hunting Pack
    35. Magic Origins Clash Pack: Armed vs. Dangerous
    36. Magic Origins Land Station
    37. San Diego Comic Con 2015 Promotion
    38. From the Vault: Angels
    39. Duel Decks: Zendikar vs. Eldrazi
    40. Battle for Zendikar Draft Booster Pack
    41. Battle for Zendikar Draft Booster Pack Box
    42. Battle for Zendikar Bundle
    43. Battle for Zendikar Intro Pack: Rallying Cry
    44. Battle for Zendikar Intro Pack: Swarming Instinct
    45. Battle for Zendikar Intro Pack: Call of Blood
    46. Battle for Zendikar Intro Pack: Eldrazi Assault
    47. Battle for Zendikar Intro Pack: Zendikar’s Rage
    48. Battle for Zendikar Event Deck: Ultimate Sacrifice
    49. Battle for Zendikar Gift Box
    50. Commander 2015: Call the Spirits
    51. Commander 2015: Seize Control
    52. Commander 2015: Plunder the Graves
    53. Commander 2015: Wade into Battle
    54. Commander 2015: Swell the Host

    2016
    1. Oath of the Gatewatch Draft Booster Pack
    2. Oath of the Gatewatch Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Oath of the Gatewatch Bundle
    4. Oath of the Gatewatch Intro Pack: Desperate Stand
    5. Oath of the Gatewatch Intro Pack: Twisted Reality
    6. Oath of the Gatewatch Intro Pack: Vicious Cycle
    7. Oath of the Gatewatch Intro Pack: Surge of Resistance
    8. Oath of the Gatewatch Intro Pack: Concerted Effort
    9. Duel Decks: Blessed vs. Cursed
    10. Welcome Deck 2016: White
    11. Welcome Deck 2016: Blue
    12. Welcome Deck 2016: Black
    13. Welcome Deck 2016: Red
    14. Welcome Deck 2016: Green
    15. Shadows Over Innistrad Draft Booster Pack
    16. Shadows Over Innistrad Draft Booster Pack Box
    17. Shadows Over Innistrad Bundle
    18. Shadows Over Innistrad Booster Battle Pack
    19. Shadows Over Innistrad Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    20. Shadows Over Innistrad Intro Pack: Ghostly Tide
    21. Shadows Over Innistrad Intro Pack: Unearthed Secrets
    22. Shadows Over Innistrad Intro Pack: Vampiric Thirst
    23. Shadows Over Innistrad Intro Pack: Angelic Fury
    24. Shadows Over Innistrad Intro Pack: Horrific Visions
    25. Shadows Over Innistrad Gift Box
    26. Eternal Masters Draft Booster Pack
    27. Eldritch Moon Draft Booster Pack
    28. Eldritch Moon Draft Booster Pack Box
    29. Eldritch Moon Bundle
    30. Eldritch Moon Intro Pack: Unlikely Alliances
    31. Eldritch Moon Intro Pack: Dangerous Knowledge
    32. Eldritch Moon Intro Pack: Shallow Graves
    33. Eldritch Moon Intro Pack: Untamed Wild
    34. Eldritch Moon Intro Pack: Weapons and Wards
    35. San Diego Comic Con 2016 Promotion
    36. From the Vault: Lore
    37. Conspiracy: Take the Crown Draft Booster Pack
    38. Duel Decks: Nissa vs. Ob Nixilis
    39. Kaladesh Draft Booster Pack
    40. Kaladesh Draft Booster Pack Box
    41. Kaladesh Bundle
    42. Kaladesh Booster Battle Pack
    43. Kaladesh Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    44. Kaladesh Planeswalker Deck: Chandra
    45. Kaladesh Planeswalker Deck: Nissa
    46. Kaladesh Gift Box
    47. Commander 2016: Entropic Uprising
    48. Commander 2016: Open Hostility
    49. Commander 2016: Stalwart Unity
    50. Commander 2016: Breed Lethality
    51. Commander 2016: Invent Superiority
    52. Planechase Anthology

    2017
    1. Aether Revolt Draft Booster Pack
    2. Aether Revolt Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Aether Revolt Bundle
    4. Aether Revolt Planeswalker Deck: Ajani
    5. Aether Revolt Planeswalker Deck: Tezzeret
    6. Modern Masters 2017
    7. Duel Decks: Mind vs. Might
    8. Welcome Deck 2017: White
    9. Welcome Deck 2017: Blue
    10. Welcome Deck 2017: Black
    11. Welcome Deck 2017: Red
    12. Welcome Deck 2017: Green
    13. Amonkhet Draft Booster Pack
    14. Amonkhet Draft Booster Pack Box
    15. Amonkhet Bundle
    16. Amonkhet Booster Battle Pack
    17. Amonkhet Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    18. Amonkhet Planeswalker Deck: Gideon
    19. Amonkhet Planeswalker Deck: Liliana
    20. Amonkhet Land Station
    21. Commander Anthology
    22. Archenemy: Nicol Bolas
    23. Hour of Devastation Draft Booster Pack
    24. Hour of Devastation Draft Booster Pack Box
    25. Hour of Devastation Bundle
    26. Hour of Devastation Planeswalker Deck: Nissa
    27. Hour of Devastation Planeswalker Deck: Nicol Bolas
    28. San Diego Comic Con 2017 Promotion
    29. Ixalan Draft Booster Pack
    30. Ixalan Draft Booster Pack Box
    31. Ixalan Bundle
    32. Ixalan Booster Battle Pack
    33. Ixalan Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    34. Ixalan Planeswalker Deck: Jace
    35. Ixalan Planeswalker Deck: Huatli
    36. Gift Pack Autumn 2017
    37. Duel Decks: Merfolk vs. Goblins
    38. HASCON 2017 Promotion
    39. Iconic Master Draft Booster Pack
    40. Explorers of Ixalan
    41. From the Vault: Transform
    42. Unstable Draft Booster Pack

    2018
    1. Rivals of Ixalan Draft Booster Pack
    2. Rivals of Ixalan Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Rivals of Ixalan Bundle
    4. Rivals of Ixalan Planeswalker Deck: Vraska
    5. Rivals of Ixalan Planeswalker Deck: Angrath
    6. Masters 25 Draft Booster Pack
    7. Duel Decks: Elves vs. Inventors
    8. Challenger Deck 2018: Hazoret Aggro
    9. Challenger Deck 2018: Vehicle Rush
    10. Challenger Deck 2018: Second Sun Control
    11. Challenger Deck 2018: Counter Surge
    12. Dominaria Draft Booster Pack
    13. Dominaria Draft Booster Pack Box
    14. Dominaria Bundle
    15. Dominaria Theme Booster Pack: White
    16. Dominaria Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    17. Dominaria Theme Booster Pack: Black
    18. Dominaria Theme Booster Pack: Red
    19. Dominaria Theme Booster Pack: Green
    20. Dominaria Planeswalker Deck: Teferi
    21. Dominaria Planeswalker Deck: Chandra
    22. Commander Anthology Volume II
    23. Battlebond Draft Booster Pack
    24. Signature Spellbook: Jace
    25. Global Series: Jiang Yanggu & Mu Yanling
    26. Core Set 2019 Welcome Deck: White
    27. Core Set 2019 Welcome Deck: Blue
    28. Core Set 2019 Welcome Deck: Black
    29. Core Set 2019 Welcome Deck: Red
    30. Core Set 2019 Welcome Deck: Green
    31. Core Set 2019 Draft Booster Pack
    32. Core Set 2019 Draft Booster Pack Box
    33. Core Set 2019 Bundle
    34. Core Set 2019 Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    35. Core Set 2019 Planeswalker Deck: Ajani
    36. Core Set 2019 Planeswalker Deck: Tezzeret
    37. Core Set 2019 Planeswalker Deck: Liliana
    38. Core Set 2019 Planeswalker Deck: Sarkhan
    39. Core Set 2019 Planeswalker Deck: Vivien
    40. San Diego Comic Con 2018 Promotion
    41. Commander 2018: Exquisite Invention
    42. Commander 2018: Nature’s Vengeance
    43. Commander 2018: Adaptive Enchantment
    44. Commander 2018: Subjective Reality
    45. Guilds of Ravnica Draft Booster Pack
    46. Guilds of Ravnica Draft Booster Pack Box
    47. Guilds of Ravnica Draft Booster Pack Box: Mythic Edition
    48. Guilds of Ravnica Bundle
    49. Guilds of Ravnica Theme Booster Pack: Selesnya
    50. Guilds of Ravnica Theme Booster Pack: Boros
    51. Guilds of Ravnica Theme Booster Pack: Golgari
    52. Guilds of Ravnica Theme Booster Pack: Izzet
    53. Guilds of Ravnica Theme Booster Pack: Dimir
    54. Guilds of Ravnica Planeswalker Deck: Ral
    55. Guilds of Ravnica Planeswalker Deck: Vraska
    56. Guilds of Ravnica Guild Kit: Selenya
    57. Guilds of Ravnica Guild Kit: Boros
    58. Guilds of Ravnica Guild Kit: Golgari
    59. Guilds of Ravnica Guild Kit: Izzet
    60. Guilds of Ravnica Guild Kit: Dimir
    61. Spellslinger Starter Kit
    62. Gift Pack Autumn 2018
    63. Game Night 2018
    64. Ultimate Masters Draft Booster Pack
    65. Ultimate Masters Draft Booster Box

    2019
    1. Ravnica Allegiance Draft Booster Pack
    2. Ravnica Allegiance Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Ravnica Allegiance Draft Booster Pack Box: Mythic Edition
    4. Ravnica Allegiance Bundle
    5. Ravnica Allegiance Theme Booster Pack: Azorius
    6. Ravnica Allegiance Theme Booster Pack: Rakdos
    7. Ravnica Allegiance Theme Booster Pack: Gruul
    8. Ravnica Allegiance Theme Booster Pack: Simic
    9. Ravnica Allegiance Theme Booster Pack: Orzhov
    10. Ravnica Allegiance Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    11. Ravnica Allegiance Planeswalker Deck: Dovin
    12. Ravnica Allegiance Planeswalker Deck: Domri
    13. Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kit: Azorius
    14. Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kit: Rakdos
    15. Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kit: Gruul
    16. Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kit: Simic
    17. Ravnica Allegiance Guild Kit: Orzhov
    18. Challenger Deck 2019: United Assault
    19. Challenger Deck 2019: Lightning Aggro
    20. Challenger Deck 2019: Deadly Discovery
    21. Challenger Deck 2019: Arcane Tempo
    22. War of the Spark Draft Booster Pack
    23. War of the Spark Draft Booster Pack Box
    24. War of the Spark Draft Booster Pack Box: Mythic Edition
    25. War of the Spark Bundle
    26. War of the Spark Theme Booster Pack: White
    27. War of the Spark Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    28. War of the Spark Theme Booster Pack: Black
    29. War of the Spark Theme Booster Pack: Red
    30. War of the Spark Theme Booster Pack: Green
    31. War of the Spark Planeswalker Deck: Gideon
    32. War of the Spark Planeswalker Deck: Jace
    33. Modern Horizons Draft Booster Pack
    34. Signature Spellbook: Gideon
    35. Core Set 2020 Welcome Deck: White
    36. Core Set 2020 Welcome Deck: Blue
    37. Core Set 2020 Welcome Deck: Black
    38. Core Set 2020 Welcome Deck: Red
    39. Core Set 2020 Welcome Deck: Green
    40. Core Set 2020 Draft Booster Pack
    41. Core Set 2020 Draft Booster Pack Box
    42. Core Set 2020 Bundle
    43. Core Set 2020 Theme Booster Pack: White
    44. Core Set 2020 Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    45. Core Set 2020 Theme Booster Pack: Black
    46. Core Set 2020 Theme Booster Pack: Red
    47. Core Set 2020 Theme Booster Pack: Green
    48. Core Set 2020 Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    49. Core Set 2020 Spellslinger Starter Kit
    50. Core Set 2020 Planeswalker Deck: Ajani
    51. Core Set 2020 Planeswalker Deck: Yanling
    52. Core Set 2020 Planeswalker Deck: Sorin
    53. Core Set 2020 Planeswalker Deck: Chandra
    54. Core Set 2020 Planeswalker Deck: Vivien
    55. Core Set 2020 Land Station
    56. San Diego Comic Con 2019 Promotion
    57. Commander 2019: Faceless Menace
    58. Commander 2019: Mystic Intellect
    59. Commander 2019: Primal Genesis
    60. Commander 2019: Merciless Rage
    61. Throne of Eldraine Draft Booster Pack
    62. Throne of Eldraine Draft Booster Pack Box
    63. Throne of Eldraine Collector Booster Pack
    64. Throne of Eldraine Collector Booster Pack Box: Deluxe Collection
    65. Throne of Eldraine Bundle
    66. Throne of Eldraine Gift Bundle
    67. Throne of Eldraine Theme Booster Pack: White
    68. Throne of Eldraine Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    69. Throne of Eldraine Theme Booster Pack: Black
    70. Throne of Eldraine Theme Booster Pack: Red
    71. Throne of Eldraine Theme Booster Pack: Green
    72. Throne of Eldraine Planeswalker Deck: Rowan
    73. Throne of Eldraine Planeswalker Deck: Oko
    74. Throne of Eldraine Brawl Deck: Wild Bounty
    75. Throne of Eldraine Brawl Deck: Faerie Schemes
    76. Throne of Eldraine Brawl Deck: Savage Hunger
    77. Throne of Eldraine Brawl Deck: Knights’ Charge
    78. Ponies: The Galloping
    79. Mystery Booster Draft Booster Pack (Convention Edition)
    80. Game Night 2019
    81. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): Bitterblossom Dreams
    82. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): Eldraine Wonderland
    83. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): Restless in Peace
    84. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): Seeing Visions
    85. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): <explosion sounds>
    86. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): Kaleidoscope Killers
    87. Secret Lair Drop Series (2019): OMG KITTIES!

    2020
    1. Theros Beyond Death Draft Booster Pack
    2. Theros Beyond Death Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Theros Beyond Death Collector Booster Pack
    4. Theros Beyond Death Bundle
    5. Theros Beyond Death Theme Booster Pack: White
    6. Theros Beyond Death Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    7. Theros Beyond Death Theme Booster Pack: Black
    8. Theros Beyond Death Theme Booster Pack: Red
    9. Theros Beyond Death Theme Booster Pack: Green
    10. Theros Beyond Death Deck Builder’s Toolkit
    11. Theros Beyond Death Planeswalker Deck: Elspeth
    12. Theros Beyond Death Planeswalker Deck: Ashiok
    13. Secret Lair Drop Series: Year of the Rat
    14. Secret Lair Drop Series: Theros Stargazing Volume I
    15. Secret Lair Drop Series: Theros Stargazing Volume II
    16. Secret Lair Drop Series: Theros Stargazing Volume III
    17. Secret Lair Drop Series: Theros Stargazing Volume IV
    18. Secret Lair Drop Series: Theros Stargazing Volume V
    19. Unsanctioned
    20. Secret Lair Drop: April Fools
    21. Secret Lair Drop Series: International Women’s Day
    22. Secret Lair Drop Series: Thalia – Beyond the Helvault
    23. Mystery Booster Draft Booster Pack (Retail Edition)
    24. Challenger Deck 2020: Allied Fires
    25. Challenger Deck 2020: Final Adventure
    26. Challenger Deck 2020: Cavalcade Charge
    27. Challenger Deck 2020: Flash of Ferocity
    28. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Draft Booster Pack
    29. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Draft Booster Pack Box
    30. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Collector Booster Pack
    31. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Bundle
    32. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Theme Booster Pack: White
    33. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    34. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Theme Booster Pack: Black
    35. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Theme Booster Pack: Red
    36. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Theme Booster Pack: Green
    37. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Commander Deck: Ruthless Regiment
    38. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Commander Deck: Arcane Maelstrom
    39. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Commander Deck: Symbiotic Swarm
    40. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Commander Deck: Timeless Wisdom
    41. Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths Commander Deck: Enhanced Evolution
    42. Secret Lair Drop Series: The Godzilla Lands
    43. Secret Lair Drop Series: Full Sleeves
    44. Secret Lair Drop Series: Can You Feel with a Heart of Steel?
    45. Secret Lair Drop Series: The Path Not Traveled
    46. Secret Lair Drop Series: Mountain, Go
    47. Secret Lair Drop Series: Ornithological Studies
    48. Secret Lair: Ultimate Edition
    49. Signature Spellbook: Chandra
    50. Core Set 2021 Welcome Booster Pack
    51. Core Set 2021 Draft Booster Pack
    52. Core Set 2021 Draft Booster Pack Box
    53. Core Set 2021 Collector Booster Pack
    54. Core Set 2021 Bundle
    55. Core Set 2021 Arena Starter Kit
    56. Core Set 2021 Planeswalker Deck: Basri
    57. Core Set 2021 Planeswalker Deck: Teferi
    58. Core Set 2021 Planeswalker Deck: Liliana
    59. Core Set 2021 Planeswalker Deck: Chandra
    60. Core Set 2021 Planeswalker Deck: Garruk
    61. Jumpstart
    62. Double Masters Draft Booster Pack
    63. Double Masters Draft Booster Pack Box
    64. Secret Lair Drop Series: Prime Slime
    65. Secret Lair Drop Series: Every Dog Has Its Day
    66. Secret Lair Drop Series: Happy Yargle Day!
    67. Zendikar Rising Welcome Booster Pack
    68. Zendikar Rising Draft Booster Pack
    69. Zendikar Rising Draft Booster Pack Box
    70. Zendikar Rising Collector Booster Pack
    71. Zendikar Rising Set Booster Pack
    72. Zendikar Rising Bundle
    73. Zendikar Rising Gift Bundle
    74. Zendikar Rising Theme Booster Pack: White
    75. Zendikar Rising Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    76. Zendikar Rising Theme Booster Pack: Black
    77. Zendikar Rising Theme Booster Pack: Red
    78. Zendikar Rising Theme Booster Pack: Green
    79. Zendikar Rising Theme Booster Pack: Party
    80. Zendikar Rising Commander Deck: Land’s Wrath
    81. Zendikar Rising Commander Deck: Sneak Attack
    82. Secret Lair Drop Series: Showcase: Zendikar Revisited
    83. Secret Lair Drop Series: The Walking Dead
    84. Secret Lair Drop Series: Extra Life 2020
    85. Commander Legends Draft Booster Pack
    86. Commander Legends Draft Booster Pack Box
    87. Commander Legends Collector Booster Pack
    88. Commander Legends Commander Deck: Arm for Battle
    89. Commander Legends: Reap the Tides
    90. Secret Lair Drop Series: Artist Series: Seb McKinnon
    91. Secret Lair Drop Series: Happy Little Gathering
    92. Secret Lair Drop Series: Hope You Like Squirrels
    93. Secret Lair Drop Series: A Box of Rocks
    94. Secret Lair Drop Series: Party Hard, Shred Harder
    95: Commander Collection: Green

    2021
    1. Kaldheim Draft Booster Pack
    2. Kaldheim Draft Booster Pack Box
    3. Kaldheim Collector Booster Pack
    4. Kaldheim Set Booster Pack
    5. Kaldheim Bundle
    6. Kaldheim Theme Booster Pack: White
    7. Kaldheim Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    8. Kaldheim Theme Booster Pack: Black
    9. Kaldheim Theme Booster Pack: Red
    10. Kaldheim Theme Booster Pack: Green
    11. Kaldheim Theme Booster Pack: Vikings
    12. Kaldheim Commander Deck: Elven Empire
    13. Kaldheim Commander Deck: Phantom Premonition
    14. Secret Lair Drop Series: Faerie, Faerie, Faerie Rad
    15. Secret Lair Drop Series: The Unfathomable Crushing Brutality of Basic Lands
    16. Secret Lair Drop Series: Valentine’s Day 2021
    17. Secret Lair Drop Series: Showcase: Kaldheim – Part 1
    18. Secret Lair Drop Series: Showcase: Kaldheim – Part 2
    19. Secret Lair Drop Series: Black is Magic
    20. Time Spiral Remastered Draft Booster Pack
    21. Time Spiral Remastered Draft Booster Pack Box
    22. Challenger Deck 2021: Azorius Control
    23. Challenger Deck 2021: Dimir Rogues
    24. Challenger Deck 2021: Mono-Red Aggro
    25. Challenger Deck 2021: Mono-Green Stompy
    26. Strixhaven: School of Mages Draft Booster Pack
    27. Strixhaven: School of Mages Draft Booster Pack Box
    28. Strixhaven: School of Mages Collector Booster Pack
    29. Strixhaven: School of Mages Set Booster Pack
    30. Strixhaven: School of Mages Bundle
    31. Strixhaven: School of Mages Theme Booster Pack: Silverquill
    32. Strixhaven: School of Mages Theme Booster Pack: Prismari
    33. Strixhaven: School of Mages Theme Booster Pack: Witherbloom
    34. Strixhaven: School of Mages Theme Booster Pack: Lorehold
    35. Strixhaven: School of Mages Theme Booster Pack: Quandrix
    36. Strixhaven: School of Mages Commander Deck: Silverquill Statement
    37. Strixhaven: School of Mages Commander Deck: Prismari Performance
    38. Strixhaven: School of Mages Commander Deck: Witherbloom Witchcraft
    39. Strixhaven: School of Mages Commander Deck: Lorehold Legacies
    40. Strixhaven: School of Mages Commander Deck: Quantum Quandrix
    41. Secret Lair Drop Series: Our Show Is On Friday, Can You Make It?
    42. Secret Lair Drop Series: Showcase: Strixhaven
    43. Secret Lair Drop Series: The Full Text Lands
    44. Secret Lair Drop Series: Culture Shocks: Bant
    45. Secret Lair Drop Series: Culture Shocks: Esper
    46. Secret Lair Drop Series: Culture Shocks: Grixis
    47. Secret Lair Drop Series: Culture Shocks: Jund
    48. Secret Lair Drop Series: Culture Shocks: Naya
    49. Secret Lair: Ultimate Edition 2
    50. Modern Horizons 2 Draft Booster Pack
    51. Modern Horizons 2 Draft Booster Pack Box
    52. Modern Horizons 2 Collector Booster Pack
    53. Modern Horizons 2 Set Booster Pack
    54. Modern Horizons 2 Bundle
    55. Secret Lair Drop Series: Saturday Morning D&D
    56. Secret Lair Drop Series: Artist Series: Mark Poole
    57. Secret Lair Drop Series: Special Guest: Fiona Staples
    58. Secret Lair Drop Series: Special Guest: Jen Bartel
    59. Secret Lair Drop Series: Phyrexian Praetors: Compleat Edition
    60. Secret Lair Drop Series: Mother’s Day 2021
    61. Secret Lair Drop Series: Dan Frazier is Back: The Allied Signets
    62. Secret Lair Drop Series: Dan Frazier is Back: The Enemy Signets
    63. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Welcome Booster Pack
    64. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Draft Booster Pack
    65. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Draft Booster Pack Box
    66. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Collector Booster Pack
    67. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Set Booster Pack
    68. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Theme Booster Pack: White
    69. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    70. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Theme Booster Pack: Black
    71. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Theme Booster Pack: Red
    72. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Theme Booster Pack: Green
    73. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Theme Booster Pack: Dungeon
    74. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Bundle
    75. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Gift Bundle
    76. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Commander Deck: Aura of Courage
    77. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Commander Deck: Dungeons of Death
    78. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Commander Deck: Draconic Rage
    79. Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms Commander Deck: Planar Portal
    80. 2021 Arena Starter Kit
    81. Secret Lair Series: Kamigawa Ink
    82. Secret Lair Series: Artist Series: Johannes Voss
    83. Secret Lair Series: Artist Series: Thomas Baxa
    84. Secret Lair Series: Math is for Blockers
    85. Secret Lair Series: Teferi’s Time Trouble
    86. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Welcome Booster
    87. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Draft Booster Pack
    88. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Draft Booster Pack Box
    89. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Collector Booster Pack
    90. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Set Booster Pack
    91. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Theme Booster Pack: White
    92. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    93. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Theme Booster Pack: Black
    94. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Theme Booster Pack: Red
    95. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Theme Booster Pack: Green
    96. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Theme Booster Pack: Werewolves
    97. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Bundle
    98. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Commander Deck: Coven Counters
    99. Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Commander Deck: Undead Unleashed
    100. Pioneer Challenge Decks 2021: Azorius Spirits
    101. Pioneer Challenge Decks 2021: Lotus Field Combo
    102. Pioneer Challenge Decks 2021: Mono-Red Burn
    103. Pioneer Challenge Decks 2021: Orzhov Auras
    104. Secret Lair Drop Series: Stranger Things
    105. Secret Lair Drop Series: Mirrodinsanity
    106. Secret Lair Drop Series: Monster Anatomy 101
    107. Secret Lair Drop Series: Monster Movie Marathon
    108. Secret Lair Drop Series: Read the Fine Print
    109. Secret Lair Drop Series: Showcase: Midnight Hunt
    110. Secret Lair Drop Series: Thrilling Tales of the Undead
    111. Secret Lair Drop Series: Purrfection
    112. Secret Lair Drop Series: Extra Life 2021
    113. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Welcome Booster
    114. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Draft Booster Pack
    115. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Draft Booster Pack Box
    116. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Collector Booster Pack
    117. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Set Booster Pack
    118. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Theme Booster Pack: White
    119. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Theme Booster Pack: Blue
    120. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Theme Booster Pack: Black
    121. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Theme Booster Pack: Red
    122. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Theme Booster Pack: Green
    123. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Theme Booster Pack: Vampires
    124. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Bundle
    125. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Gift Bundle
    126. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Commander Deck: Vampiric Bloodline
    127. Innistrad: Crimson Vow Commander Deck: Spirit Squadron
    128. Secret Lair Drop Series: MSCHF
    129. Secret Lair Drop Series: Arcane
    130. Secret Lair Drop Series: Arcane: Lands
    131. Secret Lair Drop Series: Welcome to Castle Dracula
    132. Secret Lair Drop Series: The Dracula Lands
    133. Secret Lair Drop Series: Fblthp: Completely, Utterly, Totally Lost
    134. Secret Lair Drop Series: Crocodile Jackson’s Monstrous Menagerie
    135. Secret Lair Drop Series: Far Out, Man
    136. Secret Lair Drop Series: PixelSnowLands.jpg
    137. Secret Lair Drop Series: Heads I Wind, Tails You Lose

    So in total: 2015 had 54 products, 2016 had 52 products, 2017 had 42 products, 2018 had 65 products, 2019 had 87 products, 2020 had 95 products, 2021 had 137 products.

    If you coalesce anything that could be coalesced (combine sample decks, combine theme boosters, Secret Lair bundles, etc.) the numbers become: 50 (2015), 48 (2016), 38 (2017), 53 (2018), 61 (2019), 70 (2020), 79 (2021).

    And with what we know of 2022, it doesn't look like things are slowing down.
    Assuming that the patterns hold, we're looking at
    1-2. Innistrad Double Feature Product (Packs and Box for promotion)
    3. Commander Collection Black
    4-16. Kamigawa Neon Dynasty product (assuming 1 welcome deck, 5 theme boosters, 2 Commander decks)
    17-20. Challenger Decks 2022
    21-36. Streets of New Capenna product (assuming 1 welcome deck, 5 theme boosters, 5 Commander decks)
    37-38. Unfinity product
    39-46. Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur's Gate product (assuming set booster, collector booster, bundle, and 2 Commander decks)
    47-59. Dominaria United product (assuming 1 welcome deck, 5 theme boosters, 2 Commander decks)
    60-61. Double Masters 2022 (assuming just packs and box for promotion)
    62-74. The Brothers War product (assuming 1 welcome deck, 5 theme boosters, 2 Commander decks)
    75. Jumpstart 2022
    76-79. Warhammer 40k Commander Decks

    And there are so many fiddly little products and Secret Lairs that will no doubt go in there, too. Plus, these are using the lowball numbers! It's possible that Unfinity, Jumpstart 2022, and Double Masters 2022 will have more than the listed product.

    I personally found that putting all this to words and numbers helped make sense of why it feels like Kaldheim is an ancient set despite coming out this year (beyond the fact that 2021 dragged on forever), as well as put into terms why my product fatigue is getting so bad. If it happens that all of these products are up your alley, great! But for me, MtG is getting to be too much.

    Still, I enjoyed putting this together, so maybe this time next year, I'll update it again with 2022's full product list.

    So, what do y'all think of the amount and kinds of product WotC has been releasing lately?
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