What do you think bout Ajanis +1 to make 2/2 white Cat ?
Just look back to original incarnation of certain Planeswalkers like Sarkhan & Thezzeret.
Their Finals changed into a -Abiliy you cpild use right away in later cards of them. This seems to be a Trend of Wizards.
Kiora Atua will definitely be G/ if she's included in this block.
I feel a G/ Ajani will have something to do with enchantments. Just my hunch, nothing really to back it up since I don't know much about Ajani's character.
Your -2/Ultimate is way too strong early game, and kind of lackluster later on compared to other PW's ultimate.
I really doubt that. Ajani is just not an Enchantment-based Planeswalker.
Same with Elspeth Speculation. It was also speculated that she could have changed & become Aura-related or somethin. But Elspeth is Elspeth !
& i think same with Ajani.
Im now 90 % sure that Ajani will become the Long awaited GW Planeswalker & im also convinced he will appear in the next set - Born of the Gods.
Following things make me believe it:
Elspeth, Suns Champion is our Mono W Planeswalker for the block. so that means that we wont get another Mono W Planeswalker for the Block.
But since Ajani is W & also on Theros, he has to be in @ least 1 additional Color to his Primary W.
It has always been like this if you remember sets up from "Shards of Alara"
There have neber been 2 monocolored Planeswalker in the same Colors ever in one Block.
& the Thing that makes me believe that GW Ajani will be in the second set, is the fact that there have always been known Planeswalkers in the middle of a Block. Nicol Bolas maybe is an exception. But then on:
if you look at that list, you may notice that these planeswalkers are all quite powerful & cost 4. (oK, powerful except for Gideon)
So These are my indications for my thought.
But if you consider that we maybe still have Kiora Atua in GU, then we would have 3 GPlaneswalkers in one block. But back in Zendikar, we even had 3 R Planeswalkers in 2 sets ! So Kiora Atua could possibly be mono U
& let me tell you what i would wish Ajani to be then:
Ajani the Creative 2GW
+1 Put a W 2/2 Cat Creature-Token onto the battlefield.
-1 Distribute two +1/+1 Counters among one or more target creatures you controll. Those Creatures gain Flying & Vigilance.
-2 Destroy target Artifact, Enchantment of Non-Basicland.
3 Loyality
If Ajani will be GW, then i think ist good possible that he will be able to summon his 2/2 cats as +1
oK now its your turn. Tell me what you think bout it & you can also post your Ajani-Card. id like that
Garruk acted as removal. Garruk protected himself in the same way. Garruk then made 1/1 deathtouchers, which are easily better than 2/2s with Haste. Garruk then tutored for your best creatures, and won you the game.
This guy maybe can make some mana, but will likely just be a GR bitterblossom.
Shall we open an extra Thread for "Garruk VS Xenagos" ?
No is just want to join this discussion in whos better of them.
oK so first i find Xenagos´ Tokens better. Even the better than the deathtouch-ones (they are just too defensive for me)
Not every Deck benefits from Xenagos´ Cradle-ability. You have to work with Cards such as Bonfire of the damned, Mizzium Mortars, Kessig Wolf Run & some more Cards like that.
i playtested him a lot & have to agree with you. The +1 is MOST of the time too conditional & useless. But then you just get Tokens, which synergize with his Cradle-ability for later spells or X-cost opportunities like Kessig Wolf Run. if happened often enough that his lil Satyr becomes a 10/2 Trampler & more. if you have the opportunity getting to VERY MUCH Mana & dont know what to do with it, then you should Play such manasinks.
Then again; this ability Needs a Deck to be build around to become deadly.
People seem to think; Throw Xenagos in any Deck & just win with The Cradle-ability, as i watched this thread.
i did a bit playtesting in Modern with Xenagos in MWS.
& i noticed some Problems with him:
First Thing is:
Most of the time, you want that Satyr-Token. & this ability doesnt get him higher in loyality & so he stays @ 3. Thats really dangerous against red Decks &/or faster Decks.
(i lost him quite often this way) & the ability you often want to use, actualy should gain you loyality, since you also want to have the posibility reachin the ultimate & make it harder to kill. The fact that the Tokens have haste was just irrelevant in the games i had, cause i was never in the Position to attack, cause otherwise i would have lost Xenagos very fast !
So my only complaint about this ability is that it doesnt gain loyality. Would be muuuuuch better as a +1 with the Tokens without havin Haste.
The +1 i honestly raaaaarely needed. & most of the time it wasnt better than Garruks untap-ability.
i playtested him in an Aggro-Midrange-Deck
SO MY PERSONAL OPINION: i find him to be an avarage Planeswalker. Not among the best ones, like Elspeth, Knight Errant
Because of the rotation, I imagine he's more likely to power out Mizzium Mortars than a Kessig activation.
There's also Stormbreath Dragon. I'm hoping for a cheap efficient beater (like a 3/2 for 2) with monstrosity. It would make Xenagos much better.
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but scry is interesting with him because it increases your spell density by shipping lands to the bottom while Xenagos makes mana to be able to cast them. Kind of a sweet snowball effect.
We already have such a beater. Ist Fleecemane Lion. 2 Mana 3/3 with Monstrosity.
+1 is great with Kessig Wolf Run, Bonfire & other things with X-costs.
Of course also just to get your Hand faster in or bein able to afford giant spells.
0 is repeatable Token-production. Either aggresive, or defensive ! Here i just dont like that ist not a +1-ability. Since his +1 is sometimes situational, you probably want those Tokens more & so cant rise in loyality & stay low in loyality. This lil change would have made him perfect >.<
Another ultimate that indicates that Wizards wanna make ultimates not an Auto-win
find him a lot better than Domri.
Both of Domris abilities are situational.
He almost never did a good Job 4 me.
Good that Xenagos is here now to Change something ! What an interesting & powerful Walker.
Kinda wish it was permanets instead of creatures. But Yeah this card is card is bad. Not as bad as Tibalt but really bad.
id even say hes as bad as Tibalt. Aggro just keeps attacking when
nothing scary is exiled. If is, he just wont survive. secpnd ability does
nothin without havin used da -2 a turn before & then dies. mot surprised
c him dat baad, since its Dimir. Elspeth is useful, Xenagos great,.but this is
just Tibalt again
Im convinced that this Art wont be used on her Card, since it Looks too much like a spell.
& the art for her Card is even released, isnt it ? You know the one, where she Shows some ass d:)
Im also very happy, that this is a fake, cause for me it Looks terribly bad. Would be the worst Elsa as well.
Bident of Thassa 2UU
Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card. 2U,T: Creatures your opponents control attack this turn if able.
Just look back to original incarnation of certain Planeswalkers like Sarkhan & Thezzeret.
Their Finals changed into a -Abiliy you cpild use right away in later cards of them. This seems to be a Trend of Wizards.
I really doubt that. Ajani is just not an Enchantment-based Planeswalker.
Same with Elspeth Speculation. It was also speculated that she could have changed & become Aura-related or somethin. But Elspeth is Elspeth !
& i think same with Ajani.
Im now 90 % sure that Ajani will become the Long awaited GW Planeswalker & im also convinced he will appear in the next set - Born of the Gods.
Following things make me believe it:
Elspeth, Suns Champion is our Mono W Planeswalker for the block. so that means that we wont get another Mono W Planeswalker for the Block.
But since Ajani is W & also on Theros, he has to be in @ least 1 additional Color to his Primary W.
It has always been like this if you remember sets up from "Shards of Alara"
There have neber been 2 monocolored Planeswalker in the same Colors ever in one Block.
& the Thing that makes me believe that GW Ajani
Zendikar: Jace, the mindsculptor
Scars of Mirrodin: Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Innistrad: Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Return to Ravnica: Gideon, Champion of Justice
if you look at that list, you may notice that these planeswalkers are all quite powerful & cost 4. (oK, powerful except for Gideon)
So These are my indications for my thought.
But if you consider that we maybe still have Kiora Atua in GU, then we would have 3 GPlaneswalkers in one block. But back in Zendikar, we even had 3 R Planeswalkers in 2 sets ! So Kiora Atua could possibly be mono U
& let me tell you what i would wish Ajani to be then:
Ajani the Creative 2GW
+1 Put a W 2/2 Cat Creature-Token onto the battlefield.
-1 Distribute two +1/+1 Counters among one or more target creatures you controll. Those Creatures gain Flying & Vigilance.
-2 Destroy target Artifact, Enchantment of Non-Basicland.
3 Loyality
If Ajani will be GW, then i think ist good possible that he will be able to summon his 2/2 cats as +1
oK now its your turn. Tell me what you think bout it & you can also post your Ajani-Card. id like that
Shall we open an extra Thread for "Garruk VS Xenagos" ?
No is just want to join this discussion in whos better of them.
oK so first i find Xenagos´ Tokens better. Even the better than the deathtouch-ones (they are just too defensive for me)
Not every Deck benefits from Xenagos´ Cradle-ability. You have to work with Cards such as Bonfire of the damned, Mizzium Mortars, Kessig Wolf Run & some more Cards like that.
i playtested him a lot & have to agree with you. The +1 is MOST of the time too conditional & useless. But then you just get Tokens, which synergize with his Cradle-ability for later spells or X-cost opportunities like Kessig Wolf Run. if happened often enough that his lil Satyr becomes a 10/2 Trampler & more. if you have the opportunity getting to VERY MUCH Mana & dont know what to do with it, then you should Play such manasinks.
Then again; this ability Needs a Deck to be build around to become deadly.
People seem to think; Throw Xenagos in any Deck & just win with The Cradle-ability, as i watched this thread.
i did a bit playtesting in Modern with Xenagos in MWS.
& i noticed some Problems with him:
First Thing is:
Most of the time, you want that Satyr-Token. & this ability doesnt get him higher in loyality & so he stays @ 3. Thats really dangerous against red Decks &/or faster Decks.
(i lost him quite often this way) & the ability you often want to use, actualy should gain you loyality, since you also want to have the posibility reachin the ultimate & make it harder to kill. The fact that the Tokens have haste was just irrelevant in the games i had, cause i was never in the Position to attack, cause otherwise i would have lost Xenagos very fast !
So my only complaint about this ability is that it doesnt gain loyality. Would be muuuuuch better as a +1 with the Tokens without havin Haste.
The +1 i honestly raaaaarely needed. & most of the time it wasnt better than Garruks untap-ability.
i playtested him in an Aggro-Midrange-Deck
SO MY PERSONAL OPINION: i find him to be an avarage Planeswalker. Not among the best ones, like Elspeth, Knight Errant
+1 is great with Kessig Wolf Run, Bonfire & other things with X-costs.
Of course also just to get your Hand faster in or bein able to afford giant spells.
0 is repeatable Token-production. Either aggresive, or defensive ! Here i just dont like that ist not a +1-ability. Since his +1 is sometimes situational, you probably want those Tokens more & so cant rise in loyality & stay low in loyality. This lil change would have made him perfect >.<
Another ultimate that indicates that Wizards wanna make ultimates not an Auto-win
find him a lot better than Domri.
Both of Domris abilities are situational.
He almost never did a good Job 4 me.
Good that Xenagos is here now to Change something ! What an interesting & powerful Walker.
id even say hes as bad as Tibalt. Aggro just keeps attacking when
nothing scary is exiled. If is, he just wont survive. secpnd ability does
nothin without havin used da -2 a turn before & then dies. mot surprised
c him dat baad, since its Dimir. Elspeth is useful, Xenagos great,.but this is
just Tibalt again
Thassa 4 Modern !
& the art for her Card is even released, isnt it ? You know the one, where she Shows some ass d:)
Im also very happy, that this is a fake, cause for me it Looks terribly bad. Would be the worst Elsa as well.
4 me it also seems that this card costs 5 Mana.
& the Expansion-symbol looks like the RTR-Symbol.
i hope 4 terribly fake.