So, @Ulka, about Liliana's Triumph... Does your CU/be get a lot of multiplayer matches since outside those, this is just a Diabolic Edict? Given how we have no Liliana planeswalkers in the format. (Okay, I suppose there is also an interaction with the new white planeswalker that gives you hexproof but not being able to target a player is a pretty corner case scenario.)
Its mostly just the art factor (i love the promo's art) but occasionally my group will multiplayer cube with my cube and put a monarch token in the center and first person to deal combat damage becomes the monarch so for corner cases where we play that and for future cases of hexproof on players I feel its a alright swap for now.
TL;DR - Rarely the multiplayer will actually matter but mostly making the swap for the promo art.
Will test Evolution Sage: Proliferate seems intresting Neoform: Could be cool. Could be trash. Tibalt, Rakish instigator: I love his opponents cant gain life. Im strongly considering. Elite Guardmage: I feel this has potential but this one I will leave to my group.
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I'm curious if Guildpact Informant is worth considering. I know proliferate isn't always the highest on people's radar in Pauper as the +1/+1 archetype themes peasant gets aren't there but I felt this might be worth looking at due to the fairie typing for Spellstutter Sprite.
I also have just started looking into infect in U/G for my pauper cube (which is in a construction atm) in which this seems like a slamdunk
That Gideon may actually be playable in Constructed, ironically in a control deck since that one-sided exile all effect is really strong.
Gideon’s Company is an auto-include in Soul Sisters and other lifegain decks and it might be the best PW deck exclusive card ever printed.
While it may be a card people will test within Soul sisters, it wont replace Ajani's Pridemate. and with how fast soul sister's wants to beat down I feel this won't replace anything in the deck. At 4 cmc and greater, we have Ranger of eos which mostly is there for late game rebuilding and Archangel of thune which ends the game the turn it comes in most of the time.
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I wish I could play many card. Being locked into just Commons and Uncommons is hard. It keeps the power-level quite variable. I wish that Call of the Herd was legal in my cube as that is a card I have loved for years. The other card that I ended up cutting similar to how you are cutting is Willbender as i found i wanted about 3-4 more morphs to makr it worth it in my cube but alas most of the morphers are just subpar.
Tibalt, Rakish instigator's potential for the burn/aggro in cube is crazy IMO. Im thinking of these Uncommon walkers more of attackable enchantments so in that mid-set I feel they are more interesting.
I feel like while angels offer a lot of ending power we often have plenty of ending power with ajnai's Pridemates and Honor of the pure. My main conecrn is that with the angels you miss a lot of the eary flying pressure/ early blocking that the spirit token makers or squad hawks offer.
I'd be interested in seeing how this plays though.
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I feel like it would enable turbo fog to the point it could be come truly viable which would be super interesting to have in the format in my opinion. That or tangle
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Its mostly just the art factor (i love the promo's art) but occasionally my group will multiplayer cube with my cube and put a monarch token in the center and first person to deal combat damage becomes the monarch so for corner cases where we play that and for future cases of hexproof on players I feel its a alright swap for now.
TL;DR - Rarely the multiplayer will actually matter but mostly making the swap for the promo art.
Snap includes
Return to Nature: Cartouche of Strength is getting cut because enchantress was not strong enough
Ashiok, Dream Render: with getting Saheeli for an artifact payoff card I can cut Tezzeret's Touch for my favorite of the planeswalkers.
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer: I have artifacts matter already and this plays into UR spells matters. I will be cutting Enigma Drake for her.
Nahiri, Storm of Stone: I love the fact it is multi faceted in what Nahiri does. While it offers aggressive support it also allows for artifact shenanigans. cutting Spitemare.
God-Pharaoh's Statue: This is the noncreature tinker target I have been waiting for. Cutting Filigree familiar.
Grim Initiate: I recently upped my aggro 1 drop count. This is a 1 drop I really want. cutting Flameblade Adept.
Liliana's Triumph: I love this. Cutting Smother.
Will test
Evolution Sage: Proliferate seems intresting
Neoform: Could be cool. Could be trash.
Tibalt, Rakish instigator: I love his opponents cant gain life. Im strongly considering.
Elite Guardmage: I feel this has potential but this one I will leave to my group.
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I also have just started looking into infect in U/G for my pauper cube (which is in a construction atm) in which this seems like a slamdunk
While it may be a card people will test within Soul sisters, it wont replace Ajani's Pridemate. and with how fast soul sister's wants to beat down I feel this won't replace anything in the deck. At 4 cmc and greater, we have Ranger of eos which mostly is there for late game rebuilding and Archangel of thune which ends the game the turn it comes in most of the time.
I wish I could play many card. Being locked into just Commons and Uncommons is hard. It keeps the power-level quite variable. I wish that Call of the Herd was legal in my cube as that is a card I have loved for years. The other card that I ended up cutting similar to how you are cutting is Willbender as i found i wanted about 3-4 more morphs to makr it worth it in my cube but alas most of the morphers are just subpar.
Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted is cool but I feel like I will just end up skullclamping my own dudes.
I'd be interested in seeing how this plays though.
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