Keep discussion on card you'd like to see reprinted or how you think this set will impact modern. This thread is not going to become a state of modern while state is locked. This is the only warning to stay on topic.
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Without context, (aka the State of Modern) discussion is surface level at best. Unlock the other thread if you want more in depth stuff there, and start encouraging people to use the Ignore function. I've got 3 people on my permanent list, and each add increased the value of this site considerably.
Without an understanding of what Modern is, what suggestions or speculation can even have value?
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Arclight has been a breeze for me. I just save the paths for TitI and then focus on just chipping them becasue while arclights can provide a solid burst of damage I found auriok champion has been an allstar. With Lingering Souls and Spectral procession proving enough air blockers I can normally get an Archangle or Pridemate to take them out. Its more of a war of attrition with the Phoenix deck i guess is what Im saying.
With your build I could see arclight being more an issue due to the lack of fliers and the fact you are going more aggressive than that standard Sisters list.
I gotta say with dredge and pheonix being top decks right now I love having 2 surgical extractions in the sideboard as it is a free spell that just can save me so much life. Hitting a bloodghast against dredge seals the game up majority of the time same to hitting a pheonix.
so nobody interested in discussing the fringe stuff? everyone exhausted from the previous posts or is everybody on timeout lol?
building the T3 I (re)discovered a bunch of interesting stuff. nothing Tier1 worthy ofc, but maybe still interesting for downpowered cubes.
First the mentioned Kor interaction. It even works in-color with cards like Wall of Resistance. Too bad there are only 2 Kor at common right now.
Cards I think are reasonably interesting:
Drelnoch unless it gets removed directly it seems quite good. With some sort of pump it can get quite scary. Dreamspoiler Witches with a bunch of cheap spells it can be devastating in cubes with some amount of x/1s. Iirc it was pretty good in lorwyn limited as well. Dead Ringers probably the worst wording of all magic (besides illusionary mask) and not oracle rewording whatsoever. But hitting 2 creatures of the same color isnt hard to do and double removal for 5 is good. Quarry Hauler was noticed but dismissed in the akh spoiler season, but already pretty solid in a deck that just runs something like Travel Preparations or any creature that comes with at least 2 +1+1 counters or more Ivy Elemental Ethersworn Shieldmage rated bad in evaluation and dismissed as artifact dependent card, but its an artifact itself, so its a pretty solid combat trick/pseudoremoval on its own
also potentially interesting are the Chromatic Sphere variations. They are solid fixing, replace themselves and open some amount of interesting artifact synergies, especially in white. Leonin SquireTrusty Packbeast
I know I run a UW Artifact aggro deck is MTGO Pauper and yea I love ethersworn sheildmage but i could see him as a cool option in a pauper cube as a fog/removal spell.
Drelnoch is one of my favorite cards and I actually have a casual deck that stars the tentacle yeti and a few other off attackers with pump spells. I could easily see this being included in a pauper cube with someone's U/G section featured the saboteurs archetype of attackers that draw cards or have on hit effects.
I'm excited to see the uncommon walkers if we get them. I've considered the walkers from the intro decks before so Im interested to see what they come up with.
1. I have 3 signets I think and they are slotted into the guild sections atm.
2. yea 5 is a hard spot for artifacts. I support artifacts as a deck in my cube and I've just left 5 and 6 empty because its not worth the subpar cards.
3.I play both but have been easing in artifact removal and that has helped the skullclamp issue. Im almost to the point I may try Sol ring again.
Yea I still play the list but I haven't played edh in a bit due to life being much busier and the fact I've been focusing more on modern and Cube than I use to.
Wild Growth: This would help put enchantress back on the map, and be an overall great inclusion.
As an Modern Enchantress player, I don't think Wild Growth is a big priority as the deck still has Utopia Sprawl. For Modern Enchantress to take off as a contender deck, it needs cards from the Legacy version.
These cards are not on the reserved list, but they would boost Modern Enchantress decks if they become Modern-legal.
I'd love to see sterling grove however Bogels would become a crazy hard deck to play against with it legal. that being said I do think of the three listed it has the most potential to be printed along with wild growth.
Okay I know discussion has been kinda dead her but I think currently Soul Sisters might be in one of the best positions It's been in for a long time. Auriok Champion currently hoses 7/10 of the top decks per goldfish.
I know I use to hate the W/B versions but I have been testing out the black splash just for lingering souls and surgicals and dismember in the side and I have been enjoying it.
I plan to play this for SCG Regionals in a week and would love any feedback anyone has.
Due to the discussion not get any better and both sides just getting to the point of flaming rather than civility I'm locking this thread for a few days so people can cool off.
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Let me be clearer, any discussion on the state of modern without reference to the speculative reprints or how you'd like to see the format shift will not be tolerated. While the ignore function is useful it is not a catch all and should not have to be implemented to create a welcoming and respectful community. As the state of the modern thread is lock, discussion that regards to the locking of the thread should be directed to a Moderator in a Private message and not posted in other threads derailing them. If anyone has more questions on this please Private message me and I can discuss it further with you but this is not the place.
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With your build I could see arclight being more an issue due to the lack of fliers and the fact you are going more aggressive than that standard Sisters list.
I gotta say with dredge and pheonix being top decks right now I love having 2 surgical extractions in the sideboard as it is a free spell that just can save me so much life. Hitting a bloodghast against dredge seals the game up majority of the time same to hitting a pheonix.
I know I run a UW Artifact aggro deck is MTGO Pauper and yea I love ethersworn sheildmage but i could see him as a cool option in a pauper cube as a fog/removal spell.
Drelnoch is one of my favorite cards and I actually have a casual deck that stars the tentacle yeti and a few other off attackers with pump spells. I could easily see this being included in a pauper cube with someone's U/G section featured the saboteurs archetype of attackers that draw cards or have on hit effects.
2. yea 5 is a hard spot for artifacts. I support artifacts as a deck in my cube and I've just left 5 and 6 empty because its not worth the subpar cards.
3.I play both but have been easing in artifact removal and that has helped the skullclamp issue. Im almost to the point I may try Sol ring again.
I'd love to see sterling grove however Bogels would become a crazy hard deck to play against with it legal. that being said I do think of the three listed it has the most potential to be printed along with wild growth.
I know I use to hate the W/B versions but I have been testing out the black splash just for lingering souls and surgicals and dismember in the side and I have been enjoying it.
I plan to play this for SCG Regionals in a week and would love any feedback anyone has.
3 Auriok Champion
4 Soul Warden
3 Martyr of Sands
4 Soul's Attendant
3 Serra Ascendant
4 Ajani's Pridemate
3 Archangel of Thune
Enchantment
4 Honor of the Pure
4 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Windbrisk Heights
9 Plains
4 Ghost Quarter
2 Godless Shrine
Instant
4 Path to Exile
Sorcery
4 Spectral Procession
3 Lingering Souls
1 Auriok Champion
2 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Rest in Peace
2 Stony Silence
1 Condemn
1 Tempest of Light
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Forsake the Worldly
1 Dismember
I do need to find space for my 3 copies of Leyline of sanctity in the side.
Cube Size: 495 Unique cards, 965 Cards total
Color Balance: 38 per color, 25 multicolor, 39 colorless
Standard or Theme: Theme: Grave Based Custom Set
Average Number of Players: 8
Frequency of Use: Currently in Building Stage
Design Restrictions
Powered: No
Vintage-Legal: Yes
Singleton: No
Color Balanced: Yes
Guild Balanced: No
Notes:
Uncommons: 3 Copies
Rares: 2 Copies
Mythics: 1 Copy
The packs are seeded by rarity similar to how standard boosters are seeded. Each pack contains:
4 Uncommons
2 Rares/Mythics
The Cube BreakDown
6 Confessor
6 Glint Hawk
3 Mardu Woe-Reaper
3 Topplegeist
6 Court Homunculus
2 Containment Priest
3 Leonin Relic-Warder
6 Leonin Squire
3 Myrsmith
3 Fiend Hunter
3 Sunscourge Champion
6 Porcelain Legionnaire
3 Auriok Salvagers
6 Battlewise Aven
6 Custodi Squire
2 Karmic Guide
1 Sun Titan
3 Ancestor's Chosen
2 Eternal Dragon
2 Reya Dawnbringer
3 Path to Exile
6 Angelsong
3 Abolish
6 Radiant's Judgment
6 Rally the Peasants
Sorcery (6)
1 Balance
3 Lingering Souls
6 Remember the Fallen
6 Battle Screech
2 Kirtar's Wrath
2 Decree of Justice
Enchantment (6)
3 Darksteel Mutation
3 Astral Slide
2 Solitary Confinement
3 Spirit Cairn
3 Cast Out
2 Seance
6 Dispeller's Capsule
3 Hedron Crab
6 Jace's Phantasm
3 Merfolk Looter
3 Narcomoeba
2 Snapcaster Mage
6 Waterfront Bouncer
3 Laboratory Maniac
6 Stitched Drake
3 Treasure Mage
6 Trinket Mage
6 Archaeomancer
2 Vizier of Many Faces
3 Wonder
2 River Kelpie
6 Watcher in the Mist
3 Skaab Goliath
1 Torrential Gearhulk
2 Inkwell Leviathan
6 Thought Scour
6 Grip of Amnesia
6 Rune Snag
6 Send to Sleep
3 Circular Logic
6 Frantic Search
2 Gifts Ungiven
6 Mystical Teachings
Sorcery (8)
6 Silent Departure
3 Tinker
6 Windfall
6 Deep Analysis
1 Time Reversal
3 Breakthrough
3 Rise from the Tides
6 Treasure Cruise
6 Spontaneous Mutation
6 Curse of the Bloody Tome
2 Drake Haven
2 The Mirari Conjecture
6 Carrion Feeder
2 Gravecrawler
3 Stitcher's Supplier
6 Thoughtpicker Witch
3 Apprentice Necromancer
6 Rotting Rats
6 Wight of Precinct Six
3 Big Game Hunter
6 Faerie Macabre
2 Magus of the Will
6 Stinkweed Imp
3 Crypt Champion
6 Gravedigger
6 Predatory Nightstalker
3 Woebearer
2 Extractor Demon
1 Grave Titan
2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
6 Gurmag Angler
3 Lotleth Giant
2 Entomb
6 Ghastly Demise
2 Surgical Extraction
3 Grave Consequences
3 Murderous Cut
3 Skeletal Scrying
Sorcery (9)
6 Bump in the Night
6 Raven's Crime
6 Unearth
6 Chainer's Edict
6 Mind Burst
6 Ichor Slick
3 Dread Return
2 Living Death
3 Unburial Rites
6 Tortured Existence
3 Animate Dead
1 Recurring Nightmare
3 Flameblade Adept
6 Ghitu Lavarunner
6 Insolent Neonate
6 Mogg Fanatic
2 Ash Zealot
3 Bloodrage Brawler
6 Kruin Striker
2 Alesha, Who Smiles at Death
6 Bloodmad Vampire
6 Fire Imp
3 Squee, Goblin Nabob
3 Anger
2 Goblin Dark-Dwellers
6 Reckless Wurm
6 Granitic Titan
1 Inferno Titan
2 Bedlam Reveler
6 Magma Spray
6 Flame Burst
6 Harvest Pyre
3 Punishing Fire
6 Fiery Temper
3 Temporary Insanity
2 Starstorm
Sorcery (11)
6 Faithless Looting
6 Firebolt
6 Distemper of the Blood
3 Lava Coil
6 Nightbird's Clutches
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Past in Flames
2 Seize the Day
2 Demonfire
3 Slice and Dice
3 Conflagrate
3 Lightning Rift
3 Burning Vengeance
Artifact (1)
6 Pyrite Spellbomb
6 Llanowar Elves
6 Nimble Mongoose
6 Harvest Wurm
3 Hermit Druid
3 Kraul Harpooner
6 Satyr Wayfinder
6 Werebear
3 Eternal Witness
6 Golgari Brownscale
6 Krosan Avenger
6 Stoic Builder
2 Turntimber Sower
3 Centaur Chieftain
3 Gamekeeper
6 Penumbra Spider
2 Golgari Grave-Troll
6 Kraul Foragers
6 Hooting Mandrills
1 Primeval Titan
6 Krosan Tusker
2 Woodfall Primus
3 Constant Mists
3 Krosan Reclamation
6 Pulse of Murasa
6 Return to the Earth
Sorcery (11)
6 Chatter of the Squirrel
2 Traverse the Ulvenwald
2 Life from the Loam
6 Mulch
3 Restore
2 Call of the Herd
3 Far Wanderings
3 Grizzly Fate
3 Spider Spawning
2 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Roar of the Wurm
3 Exoskeletal Armor
1 Survival of the Fittest
2 Hanna, Ship's Navigator
3 Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage
6 Sanctum Plowbeast
Dimir (3)
6 Memory Sluice
3 Psychatog
2 Dralnu, Lich Lord
Rakdos (3)
3 Pyre Zombie
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan
2 Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
3 Ghor-Clan Rampager
6 Deadshot Minotaur
Selesnya (2)
2 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Sigarda, Heron's Grace
Orzhov (2)
6 Beckon Apparition
3 Angel of Despair
Golgari (2)
6 Grisly Salvage
3 Baloth Null
3 Wood Sage
6 Temporal Spring
Izzet (2)
3 Enigma Drake
6 Sonic Assault
Boros (2)
6 Squee's Embrace
3 Flame-Kin Zealot
Esper (1)
3 Thopter Foundry
Sultai (1)
1 Muldrotha, the Gravetide
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Elixir of Immortality
6 Shard of Broken Glass
6 Shriekhorn
3 Skullclamp
2 Altar Of Dementia
6 Fellwar Stone
2 Nim Deathmantle
3 Sword of the Meek
3 Gate to the Afterlife
2 Bonehoard
1 Mindslaver
2 Salvaging Station
2 God-Pharaoh's Gift
3 Dryad Arbor
6 Myr Servitor
3 Millikin
6 Perilous Myr
3 Bottle Gnomes
6 Graven Abomination
6 Pilgrim's Eye
3 Epitaph Golem
1 Wurmcoil Engine
3 Meteor Golem
3 Artisan of Kozilek
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Emrakul, the Promised End
2 Academy Ruins
6 Ash Barrens
6 Blasted Landscape
3 Cephalid Coliseum
3 Dakmor Salvage
3 Ghost Quarter
6 Haunted Fengraf
3 Keldon Megaliths
3 Mistveil Plains
3 Nantuko Monastery
2 Thawing Glaciers
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