What about Brimaz? bolt-proof, efficiently makes token... not a replacement of Mentor but maybe a split like 3M/2B ?
And Bauble... really looks cool but... I don't know.... I think it's worth a try. But do the deck need 8 free cantrips?
Delver is a 4 of or nothing, Souls is a must have 4 in this deck. You don't need 3 spell snare, you have Kosilek and removal (you need ore removal^^). Mishra's Bauble... hmmm... very good with Mentor, but not that much with Delver... Serum vision, why not... have to be tested.
-2 myth +2 souls for sure
eventually -2 Bauble +2 delver and -1 spell snare +1 removal
To be able to play Tasigur efficiently, you will probably need some Thoughts scour, may be.
Just discovering this deck! looks very cool
Mishra's Bauble + gitaxian probe are really strong with Monastery Mentor.
And what about Brimaz in those lists?
I wanted to built a Grixis delver deck but now.. i'm not sure anymore^^
What are the advantages of this deck over a grixis with lot of 2 for 1 ?
Does somebody tried a reall combo gifts? with a package like Kiki, Pestermite, Exarch, Rites? We could use a Scapeshift shell with some ramp and tempo (sakura, cryptic, remand, pact of negation, coalition relic (I now that there is a fan of relic among us :P) ) And end of turn just gift those 4 cards, you will just need 4(rites) + 3(untaper) + 2(counters) = app.9 manas to play the combo, with relic and a good ramp/tempo ratio this seems possible. Thoughts? Just an idea thought
Sorin is GG when it hits the battle field. Tezz needs 5 turns with 4 artefacts... To have 4 artefacts on turn 4, 1/3 of your cards need to be artifacts, here you just have 8 + 4 mages. Serum vision + sleight will not really help having more artifacts if you wish to win quickly (you will no be able to play your serum + your artifact + your combo in only 1 turn....)
You have better to play safer, more stable, and win with sorin as soon as he hits the fields.
This mainly is a UGB control shell where i play Gifts to get value (Loam, Crime, Tech Edge, Urborg / Titan, Rhino, Rites, Damnation / Snap, Noxious Revival(SB), 2 x SB card). As i play Gifts, adding white for Rites does not hurt that much and it allows to play Path and Rhino (Elesh etc are in the SB).
I'm trying a one-of Blue sun, it sometimes draw me lots of good thing (event if the first time it's just 2 cards, we can still use it later for more). Still have no idea on Tas... some times he is just monstrous and sometimes it keeps giving you IoK, TS or Decay when you don't need it.
Golgari charm is quite good as i don't run Souls and can get rid of a surprising Moon.
The Rhino are as good as they are, but that's a lot of 4ccm... I'd like to find something at 3ccm to replace them (or 2), may-be Geist? But with Abzan i'm not sur they are so good, you really have to clear the board before. (Yes Tarmo! But nop... the price is just so ridiculous...)
How do the triggers work with Abzan Ascendency and Blasting Station ? The more i am thinking of it, the better it seems to be And what about a few swords or things like that to make our spirits or Cartels a bit more threatening?
And how do you respond to a 12/12 trample on turn 3?
I'm currently playing Dead Guy Aller and 4c Gifts in modern. As we already said, Gifts needs some early pressure or to go heavy control and Dead Guy is a really grindy deck which sometimes lack of impact. What if we mixed both?! The resiliency/disruption of DGA and the finisher of Gift?
in fact i mainly removed Bob (hurts like hell with Gifts, Rites, Elesh), Monastery Mentor could be great here.
That's just an idea for now, but I already like it The deck could be really strong. may-be....
I don't think that adding the red splash necessarily requires its own thread for discussion. We've always been a grindy value deck, and that's what these all look like to me.
And Bauble... really looks cool but... I don't know.... I think it's worth a try. But do the deck need 8 free cantrips?
-2 myth +2 souls for sure
eventually -2 Bauble +2 delver and -1 spell snare +1 removal
To be able to play Tasigur efficiently, you will probably need some Thoughts scour, may be.
Mishra's Bauble + gitaxian probe are really strong with Monastery Mentor.
And what about Brimaz in those lists?
I wanted to built a Grixis delver deck but now.. i'm not sure anymore^^
What are the advantages of this deck over a grixis with lot of 2 for 1 ?
You have better to play safer, more stable, and win with sorin as soon as he hits the fields.
1 Grave Titan
3 Siege Rhino
2 Tasigur, the golden fang
2 Snapcaster Mage
3 Gifts Ungiven
1 Life from the Loam
1 Raven's Crime
1 Unburial Rites
1 Damnation
1 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Path to Exil
1 Golgari Charm
3 Inquisition of Kosilek
2 Thoughtseize
3 Manaleak
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Blue sun's Zenith
This mainly is a UGB control shell where i play Gifts to get value (Loam, Crime, Tech Edge, Urborg / Titan, Rhino, Rites, Damnation / Snap, Noxious Revival(SB), 2 x SB card). As i play Gifts, adding white for Rites does not hurt that much and it allows to play Path and Rhino (Elesh etc are in the SB).
I'm trying a one-of Blue sun, it sometimes draw me lots of good thing (event if the first time it's just 2 cards, we can still use it later for more). Still have no idea on Tas... some times he is just monstrous and sometimes it keeps giving you IoK, TS or Decay when you don't need it.
Golgari charm is quite good as i don't run Souls and can get rid of a surprising Moon.
The Rhino are as good as they are, but that's a lot of 4ccm... I'd like to find something at 3ccm to replace them (or 2), may-be Geist? But with Abzan i'm not sur they are so good, you really have to clear the board before. (Yes Tarmo! But nop... the price is just so ridiculous...)
So card that i might be changing : Rhino, Zenith, Tas
Card considering : Geist or other, Cryptic Command, Thragtusk, Batterkull
And what about a Aether's Vial set at two markers?
And how do you respond to a 12/12 trample on turn 3?
I'm just trying something like that:
4 Lingering Souls
2 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
3 Pack Rat
2 Tidehollow Sculler
Discard
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Unburial Rites
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Resilience
1 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
1 Batterskull
3 Path to Exile
1 Murderous Cut
1 Dismember
3 Disfigure
25 lands
in fact i mainly removed Bob (hurts like hell with Gifts, Rites, Elesh), Monastery Mentor could be great here.
That's just an idea for now, but I already like it The deck could be really strong. may-be....
it already has