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Quote from asmallcat »Quote from Patrunkenphat7 » I’m struggling to see how Release the Dogs is anything like Triplicate Spirits. Well, they are both sorceries that make tokens... My main point in comparing them (and battle screech, but that was already brought up) is that there are a lot of ways to get 3 or 4 flying 1/1's in white for around 4 mana if you jump through some hoops, and I think 3 flying 1/1's is basically always better than 4 ground 1/1's. I mean, spectral procession is almost always 4 mana at most, and it is way better than this, and it's a marginal card nowadays (I run it but only because I support RW tokens, I wouldn't otherwise).
Quote from Patrunkenphat7 » I’m struggling to see how Release the Dogs is anything like Triplicate Spirits.
Quote from tappwater »What am I missing? How is what this article describes a different way to play jump start?
Quote from Huss316 »Is there a good reason for jumping the rarity of Study from common to rare? I am sure even uncommon would have been ok
Quote from Xcric »Quote from Gutterstorm »Quote from Xcric »i don't see the point in ormos's ability either i'm winning on the spot with lab man/jace/thassa's oracle or i'm losing from drawing while there's no cards. the **** is a 10/10 gonna do for me? his draw ability though, that's ******* great in edh... just not at that casting cost. i will never say no to more rhystic studies, i'm starting to run out of them. She replaces you losing with making her bigger. As long as she’s in play you can’t lose to being decked. Much like Underrealm Lich oh, i missed the word instead. thanks for pointing that out i'd have never seen it. regardless... the **** is a 10/10 (or greater) doing for me that i can't already do by just winning outright? its not like i'm going to leveler my library and rely solely on a combat damage, so i'm almost always going to have my library in my hand allowing me to win on the spot
Quote from Gutterstorm »Quote from Xcric »i don't see the point in ormos's ability either i'm winning on the spot with lab man/jace/thassa's oracle or i'm losing from drawing while there's no cards. the **** is a 10/10 gonna do for me? his draw ability though, that's ******* great in edh... just not at that casting cost. i will never say no to more rhystic studies, i'm starting to run out of them. She replaces you losing with making her bigger. As long as she’s in play you can’t lose to being decked. Much like Underrealm Lich
Quote from Xcric »i don't see the point in ormos's ability either i'm winning on the spot with lab man/jace/thassa's oracle or i'm losing from drawing while there's no cards. the **** is a 10/10 gonna do for me? his draw ability though, that's ******* great in edh... just not at that casting cost. i will never say no to more rhystic studies, i'm starting to run out of them.
Quote from Flamebuster »If this is a rainbow theme I hope we get some sunburst/converge action going on in it. And a Bloom Tender reprint too 'buster
Quote from Elostirion(again) »Quote from Outcryqq »Quote from Elostirion(again) »T4feri is in one of these decks. Hello empty slot in many boxes at LGS's and lower price on the remaining? Are you going to be able to tell from the outside which pack is which? I thought I heard you won't know until it's opened. From what we know so far, you seem to be able to tell some but not all. i.e. there are 4 Predatory packs. You can tell you're getting a Predatory pack but not which one. There is only one Rainbow pack. So you will know what's in there. This however is the Teferi pack. We dont yet know how many of those there are. Nope. Random packs. No data.
Quote from Outcryqq »Quote from Elostirion(again) »T4feri is in one of these decks. Hello empty slot in many boxes at LGS's and lower price on the remaining? Are you going to be able to tell from the outside which pack is which? I thought I heard you won't know until it's opened.
Quote from Elostirion(again) »T4feri is in one of these decks. Hello empty slot in many boxes at LGS's and lower price on the remaining?
Quote from user-100026896 »One of the things with Shrines is in reality I don't think you can push them that hard, because if you do they'd be really obnoxious. They're enchantments that sit on the battlefield that decks won't be packing removal for. As is 3 of these are fine. The white one's main use is it ups your shrine count for your other shrines for 1 mana, as its actual ability won't be usable until like T5. The red one is the worst as it's essentially a 3 mana do nothing, it's much easier to find time to play 1 mana do nothing than a 3 mana version. I'm sure in limited you will see some games won off these as the black one is going to be a real hard engine to beat once you get it going. Any sort of defensive deck that can just play a couple of these and sit back draining the opponent for 2 every turn from a card type they are probably packing no removal for is going to be tough to beat. It also feels the sort of deck that when its open will be wide open as the black one is basically the payoff, there is little incentive to take most of them meaning you will probably be able to pick them up very easily if you're in the deck. The downside is there will be drafts where they simply aren't opened.
Quote from Guesswork »A cycle set on Kamigawa that is ultra-parasitic? A cycle set on Kamigawa that legendary in a way that not only unnecessary but also in conflict with the card designs? A cycle set on Kamigawa that will thus clog up your hand with unplayable cards? A cycle where the white and red ones break the cycle design, and are far and away the worst of the bunch? A we-build-it-for-you cycle where the deck you're supposed to build nonbos with itself? People... this is self-parody. You're supposed to laugh.
Quote from CatParty »How does the Shrine deck work? The White one is the only 1-drop, and it essentially does nothing until there are a few more shrines in play. Seems like terrible design. Turn 1: White Shrine, Turn 2 Black shrine (Drain trigger), Turn 3 Drain trigger, you can't do anything else if you want to activate the white shrine... Seems bad.
Quote from Dontrike »They really don't like these "Return target instant/sorcery from your graveyard" spells to be in your graveyard. Seems like all of them exile themselves lately.
Quote from sleeper agent 2.0 »Quote from wallycaine »Quote from sleeper agent 2.0 »Wow, that's a big cryptic command. Is it too much to ask for other colors (especially white) to get this sort of thing? Blue already has cryptic, and Archmage's Charm, and Mystic Confluence. White deserves a "exile an artifact, exile an enchantment, exile an attacking creature, gain 5 life, return a card with cmc 3 or less from your graveyard to play" version of this. At a guess, this type of card would be harder to do for other colors because there's less timing restricted abilties to put on it. "Counter Target Spell" and "Counter Target activated or triggered ability" are rarely going to be able to be used together, but also aren't mutually exclusive. It's hard to come up with a pair like that for other colors, and that plays into the power level of the card in a big way. But... it's ok if the other colors get a less timing-restricted / more powerful version of this card. I know it's a controversial stance but blue doesn't always have to have the best card in a cycle. For the example I gave, you could replace the "return a permanent cmc 3 or less" with "return any permanent that went to the graveyard this turn" to make it more timing restricted. I do think this card has a place in EDH, but that depends on you wanting to copy one of your own creatures often enough. Copy your own creature plus draw a card at instant speed is a good enough "fail case" for the card, worth leaving the 6 mana up assuming you have a thing worth copying, and you'll almost always get a beneficial bounce out of it too. This makes you not reliant at all on the time restricted modes, but turns those modes into a huge blowout when they come up.
Quote from wallycaine »Quote from sleeper agent 2.0 »Wow, that's a big cryptic command. Is it too much to ask for other colors (especially white) to get this sort of thing? Blue already has cryptic, and Archmage's Charm, and Mystic Confluence. White deserves a "exile an artifact, exile an enchantment, exile an attacking creature, gain 5 life, return a card with cmc 3 or less from your graveyard to play" version of this. At a guess, this type of card would be harder to do for other colors because there's less timing restricted abilties to put on it. "Counter Target Spell" and "Counter Target activated or triggered ability" are rarely going to be able to be used together, but also aren't mutually exclusive. It's hard to come up with a pair like that for other colors, and that plays into the power level of the card in a big way.
Quote from sleeper agent 2.0 »Wow, that's a big cryptic command. Is it too much to ask for other colors (especially white) to get this sort of thing? Blue already has cryptic, and Archmage's Charm, and Mystic Confluence. White deserves a "exile an artifact, exile an enchantment, exile an attacking creature, gain 5 life, return a card with cmc 3 or less from your graveyard to play" version of this.
Quote from genini2 »Quote from xaltair »First strike, was trample too much to deal with? And only on your turn. Because a defensive value card would be too much I guess.
Quote from xaltair »First strike, was trample too much to deal with?
Quote from tengence0817 »The mire fact that this thread was locked shows no one knows how to talk about this issue which has been the problem for the last 100 years and still is today.