I am bi, I take no offense to words like "queer" or "gay" or "twink."
If someone wants to call me a queer ass ****** twink, I would laugh and ask them if they were just jealous of my good looks. ^.^'
BUT, it is not that the words need censored, it is that the community ought be respectful.
IE
If someone says, "Lets have a *****in' good time!" or "Good game *****es" that is passable to me. Someone who is obviously trolling and hits someone with "ShutthaFup you c--tfaced B" should be reported, and dealt with accordingly.
I am not a big fan of censorship, I understand why it exists in some cases, but sometimes I just like to be able to say what I damn well mean.
I am firmly on the boat that it's always bad regardless of the context. Sorry.
I can understand why you would feel that way. Although, I do not believe it should be censored considering that it does happen, and IF someone wished to speak about it then they should be able to tell the story. Be it in the speakeasy or under personal writing...
I wince a little bit every time I hear someone on xbox live screaming "Oh yeah! Ima ____ your face!" But sometimes the ignoramus's just need to be ignored or told straight up, if you continue with such BS than there will be consequences.
Bllllaaaahhh, it is past time people let go of such negative connotations. I am white, all 3 of my nephews are mixed, and everyone in my family can sit back and laugh while throwing the term back and forth. I recognize this may not be the case for everyone, but the times are changing. And with the times, negative implications in language also change.
Although, for any dummy who would walk into a room and use the word negatively, their blood is on their own hands
I sent you the host for one of the private networks... Where one is shut down, another will certainly pop up. There are a few more, but that is the one I play on personally. Best wishes and happy deck testing
Continuing to trot out the internet-anarchy argument is counterproductive.. Especially since the use of Cockatrice isn't even illegal in the first place. The terms of use allows for the use of physical proxies, printed out from an inkjet and pasted on a basic land. There is zero difference between that and Cockatrice. We don't even know on what grounds Hasbro is using, few pages back it was more-or-less determined that it was most plausibly about *patents*, not *copyright*.
Patents, copyright, whatever.
They are trying to shut down an idea and a community to bolster their profits. And it is not going to work.
There are many programs that are completely unrelated to Magic: The Gathering that I can use to play Magic over the internet without real cards. It may be time-consuming and convoluted, but it's entirely possible. If I use a combination of Microsoft Excel, Photoshop and GoToMeeting to play a game of Magic using images from Gatherer, are Microsoft, Adobe and GoToMeeting all guilty of infringing on Hasbro's copyright? This seems like a ridiculous example, because it really is, but the fact of the matter is that according to the exact logic you continue to espouse, then those companies would all be just as guilty as Cockatrice. If they're not, what's the difference?
Is it the fact that those programs don't come with an included program that pulls the data from Gatherer? If that's the case, then would Cockatrice be a-okay so long as Oracle didn't come included? Apparently that's actually how it works now anyway, although I can't verify that.
If it's not that, then what else would it be that separates Cockatrice from that convoluted collection of programs? Both situations are the same - I, the user, make use of a program or programs to play a game of Magic: The Gathering using images downloaded from Gatherer.
It's over dude. The people who get it already know, and the stiffs who side with the mega-business well never change their mind.
Why don't we just run all over the place and tell people they don't HAVE to pay for MTGO and take the war to Wasbro, since they brought the fight to us. Sorry WotC, you should probably stick to the paper game, after-all, that still holds a large appeal to the majority of players.
Yes, as long as people keep trotting out defenses that have failed, I'll keep trotting it out.
Multiple software programs that have never housed a single byte of copyrighted data have been found guilty of enabling IP infringement. Just like Cockatrice does.
They were found guilty yet remain functional to this day.
Since when do people online care about the legalities of what they download?
Like, never.
Don't be like what, he had a valid point where the cockatrice makes Hasbro so little money that without it they would make more. People would be looking for another digital way to play the game and go for MTGO. Where they pay the start up fee and then pay for tournaments sanctions by WOTC. Bottom line, they make more money with cockatrice not there.
The arguement that Hasbro has "other" products that they sell is really a "Fools statement ;)" We are in the middle of a down Economy and they want every penny they can get.
Whatever. You are going to complain about a "down economy" in defense of a company that produces the bulk of its product overseas.
Bottom line is, they will make money regardless of whether the program existed or not. It is that drive for "more" that has inspired this BS, and do you know what happens when people and business get greedy?
If they want to try to fight against everyone who hosts a Cockatrice server in court, they will lose more money fighting than they will gain. I guarantee it.
They are terrified of the "threat" these servers pose, and they have responded by escalating the situation.
I am not clinging to a failed defense, I am pointing out facts proven by history. In the war between Corporate profits and the Internet, the internet will win. Pirate Bay has won, despite people having gone to jail over it.
Even Limewire remains functional to this day.
People want to run to legalistic terms such as "Corporations", "copyright" and "infringement" yet fail to mention what continues to hold MTG together... Community.
People are not going to ptp online AND buy cards irl. And it is that whisper of corporate greed telling the policy makers at Hasbro that they might. They are wrong, and it is going to cost them severely. Wait and see.
This reminds me--when you download Cockatrice, don't you automatically download Oracle too? It has been a while since I downloaded the program, but I'm an idiot, so I can't imagine that I did anything other than click a button or two to make this program run (and that includes downloading all of the Gatherer information). In this way, I'd say that I think "It's just a virtual table" is a weak argument if Cockatrice itself comes prepackaged as a way to play MTG.
No, it gave you the option to download oracle, which has since been removed.
Whether or not the little (recommended) tag was by the download is irrelevant.
And NGW, you know what he meant, dont be like that lol
Of course they wouldn't open an Arabian Nights pack if it fell into their hands. Hell, I wouldn't open an AN pack if I came across one today.
But for the new singles... Stores still have to buy the packs in order to sell singles. Thus, making the corporate BS-monger's as much money as they need. Nevermind the fact that Hasbro sells thousands of products
That being said, there are terms obviously offensive, then there a terms with practical applications.
bypassing a filter via something of F**k should not be a severe problem like that. What's the difference if it reads as such, or ****. We all know what the **** was said.
What I am saying is this, the problem is not with the words, it is in the Community. If an Individual wants to consistently pursue no other action than blatant trolling, it would come time to drop "the hammer." If an individual slips up and says the wrong ****ing thing than perhaps a warning should be issued, and it should be left at that.
^^ you all know you pronounced that word in your mind.
If someone wants to call me a queer ass ****** twink, I would laugh and ask them if they were just jealous of my good looks. ^.^'
BUT, it is not that the words need censored, it is that the community ought be respectful.
IE
If someone says, "Lets have a *****in' good time!" or "Good game *****es" that is passable to me. Someone who is obviously trolling and hits someone with "ShutthaFup you c--tfaced B" should be reported, and dealt with accordingly.
I am not a big fan of censorship, I understand why it exists in some cases, but sometimes I just like to be able to say what I damn well mean.
Not really... it is still all in context.
I can understand why you would feel that way. Although, I do not believe it should be censored considering that it does happen, and IF someone wished to speak about it then they should be able to tell the story. Be it in the speakeasy or under personal writing...
I wince a little bit every time I hear someone on xbox live screaming "Oh yeah! Ima ____ your face!" But sometimes the ignoramus's just need to be ignored or told straight up, if you continue with such BS than there will be consequences.
Bllllaaaahhh, it is past time people let go of such negative connotations. I am white, all 3 of my nephews are mixed, and everyone in my family can sit back and laugh while throwing the term back and forth. I recognize this may not be the case for everyone, but the times are changing. And with the times, negative implications in language also change.
Although, for any dummy who would walk into a room and use the word negatively, their blood is on their own hands
Considering it is used everywhere in the rap industry and in modern black culture, I just don't believe it is as bad as people make it out to be.
Well that makes 3. Don't give up on it yet.
Patents, copyright, whatever.
They are trying to shut down an idea and a community to bolster their profits. And it is not going to work.
It's over dude. The people who get it already know, and the stiffs who side with the mega-business well never change their mind.
Why don't we just run all over the place and tell people they don't HAVE to pay for MTGO and take the war to Wasbro, since they brought the fight to us. Sorry WotC, you should probably stick to the paper game, after-all, that still holds a large appeal to the majority of players.
They were found guilty yet remain functional to this day.
Since when do people online care about the legalities of what they download?
Like, never.
Whatever. You are going to complain about a "down economy" in defense of a company that produces the bulk of its product overseas.
Bottom line is, they will make money regardless of whether the program existed or not. It is that drive for "more" that has inspired this BS, and do you know what happens when people and business get greedy?
If they want to try to fight against everyone who hosts a Cockatrice server in court, they will lose more money fighting than they will gain. I guarantee it.
They are terrified of the "threat" these servers pose, and they have responded by escalating the situation.
I am not clinging to a failed defense, I am pointing out facts proven by history. In the war between Corporate profits and the Internet, the internet will win. Pirate Bay has won, despite people having gone to jail over it.
Even Limewire remains functional to this day.
People want to run to legalistic terms such as "Corporations", "copyright" and "infringement" yet fail to mention what continues to hold MTG together... Community.
People are not going to ptp online AND buy cards irl. And it is that whisper of corporate greed telling the policy makers at Hasbro that they might. They are wrong, and it is going to cost them severely. Wait and see.
No, it gave you the option to download oracle, which has since been removed.
Whether or not the little (recommended) tag was by the download is irrelevant.
And NGW, you know what he meant, dont be like that lol
Of course they wouldn't open an Arabian Nights pack if it fell into their hands. Hell, I wouldn't open an AN pack if I came across one today.
But for the new singles... Stores still have to buy the packs in order to sell singles. Thus, making the corporate BS-monger's as much money as they need. Nevermind the fact that Hasbro sells thousands of products
That being said, there are terms obviously offensive, then there a terms with practical applications.
bypassing a filter via something of F**k should not be a severe problem like that. What's the difference if it reads as such, or ****. We all know what the **** was said.
What I am saying is this, the problem is not with the words, it is in the Community. If an Individual wants to consistently pursue no other action than blatant trolling, it would come time to drop "the hammer." If an individual slips up and says the wrong ****ing thing than perhaps a warning should be issued, and it should be left at that.
^^ you all know you pronounced that word in your mind.