I think it really depends on the meta you play in and how you want to have the deck play out. My question for you is what do you want to be doing? Playing Epser goodstuff, Comboing Off, Grinding the game into oblivion as the archenemy life boss?
Clone is VERY low impact and unless you're playing clone.deck there are much better versions to run, two of which you are already running as well as Rite of Replication...
Draining Whelk I think this card is very much a trap, yes Deadeye and him lock out games very easily but so does Deadeye with a million other things that don't cost 6 mana... you also don't have many ways to abuse / reuse him outside of a single Deadeye.
Ajani's Pridemate - WAY too low impact, you're better off playing something like Chasm Skulker if you feel you NEED a low drop that has potential in the mid to end game.
Jester's Cap - unless you have a combo heavy meta where you would also want a way to recur this I don't think this type of effect is very good.
Divinity of Pride - do you just want a big dumb beater? I mean sure he is a very impressive Baneslayer... but in EDH is this really want you want to be playing also his manacost is somewhat prohibitive to cast you will not get the free wins off this guy that Serra Ascendant provides which makes him MUCH worse.
Nevinyrral's Disk - I think you have enough artifacts and enchantments that you don't want to just blow these up, perhaps Toxic Deluge or Black Sun's Zenith if you want another wrath effect that gets around Indestructible?
Mortify just seems the worst of these and would run Vindicate before hand in any case.
I can comment more intelligently if I understand what kind of deck and game you want to play.
Wow, those are all very solid points. I intend on being Esper Goodstuff. I am playing in a combo heavy meta (hence the Jester's Cap) so I threw in a few infinite combos of my own.
Here's my list so far but I'm 20 or so cards over. It's mainly a goodstuff deck with a few infinite combos and some lifegain synergy. Really need help making cuts but any input is much appreciated!
What type of deck are you trying to build? Control? Stax? Combo? Goodstuff?
Also, dual commander or multiplayer?
I'm going to say Goodstuff. A few infinite combos (not trying to combo off consistently), definitely not Stax. It would multiplayer 9 times out of 10.
im no expert on oloro, but in all of my goodstuffy builds i try to run:
5-10 ramp
3-5 boardwipes
3-5 spot removal
10-15 utility creatures
3-5 wincons
38 lands
20-30 filler (can be wipes, removal, wincons, tutors, etc. use this space to tune for the meta)
as for oloro specifically, your graced with all of the best board wipes in the game. i recommend running a variety to deal with every possible board state (toxic deluge, wrath of god, supreme verdict, merciless eviction and austere command is where i'd start)
the less tutors you plan on running, the higher each of these numbers should go. you can easily get away with just 2 board wipes if your running 8+ tutors, but your gunna need 5-6 if your running no tutors
Definitely going to need some tutors, haven't decided what ones or how many just yet though. Thanks for the input!
I'm putting together an Oloro, Ageless Ascetic EDH deck and was trying to get a feeling for what numbers of what cards I should be putting in. Ramp, card draw, board wipes, spot removal, utility lands, basics etc. I've googled a bit and found some stuff but they were pretty old posts so I thought I was post here. Thanks for looking!
So how does this deck deal with the Tron matchup? Are there any other particularly tough matchups I should prepare for? I've wanted to build a Tezzeret variant for years and am finally starting to piece together the deck.
Captain sisay is perfect for that.
She's got degenerate combos for competitive metas. She tutors for pieces that interfere with other people's combos. And if it's a casual game, you can just ramp and tutor for big eldrazi and stuff.
Plus she's really resilient and tons of fun.
Looks interesting! I'll check her out, thank you for the recommendation!
Hello everyone, I play at several stores with wildly different metas. I'm trying to build a deck that can play the super degenerate combo game when it needs to but also jam a fair game of EDH. Any commanders or even specific cards that would lend themselves to this sort of strategy? Thanks!
Hey everyone! I'm looking for a deck recommendation for my LGS's "Bad Modern" night. I'm looking for something that has some play to it, something non-linear. I was considering Troll Worship. Any other ideas???
Cards you already own: Basically all Modern staples except for Jund cards (Lilianas, Goyfs)
Colors you like to play: I honestly like them all
Style you like to play: Midrange, Combo, Control
Level you want to play at: Strictly for our bad modern night, no tier 1 decks allowed!
Quick question for the people playing the Nourishing Shoal version. If I'm playing vs Burn and have shoals and wurms in my hand should I just fire them off any time they're tapped out to avoid Skullcrack and Atarka's Command?
Well since I'm assuming this is the state championship for your state, what do you typically see lots of locally at fnm?
That's the problem! I haven't been able to play since the banning/unbanning so I'm not sure what to expect. During regionals recently burn was all over, I'm not die if that's still the case.
Hey everyone. I'm hoping to get a little input for deck selection next weekend at SCG State championships. I'm stuck between RUG Midrange, Grixis Control, Abzan Company and Infect. I can also put together UWR Control. I'm just really not sure what's better positioned! They're all a blast to play!
Wow, those are all very solid points. I intend on being Esper Goodstuff. I am playing in a combo heavy meta (hence the Jester's Cap) so I threw in a few infinite combos of my own.
1x Ajani's Pridemate
1x Ashen Rider
1x Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
1x Bloodgift Demon
1x Clever Impersonator
1x Consecrated Sphinx
1x Divinity of Pride
1x Drogskol Reaver
1x Duplicant
1x Chasm Skulker
1x Felidar Sovereign
1x Karlov of the Ghost Council
1x Phyrexian Metamorph
1x Sun Titan
1x Rhox Faithmender
1x Serra Ascendant
Tutors:3
1x Beseech the Queen
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Increasing Ambition
Ramp:11
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Coalition Relic
1x Commander's Sphere
1x Gilded Lotus
1x Azorius Signet
1x Pristine Talisman
1x Thought Vessel
1x Orzhov Signet
1x Sol Ring
1x Solemn Simulacrum
Combos:9
1x Exquisite Blood
1x Sanguine Bond
1x Helm of Obedience
1x Rest in Peace
1x Palinchron
1x Deadeye Navigator
1x Blue Sun's Zenith
1x Laboratory Maniac
1x Exsanguinate
1x Black Sun's Zenith
1x Merciless Eviction
1x Wrath of God
1x Supreme Verdict
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Austere Command
Spot Removal:6
1x Vindicate
1x Utter End
1x Path to Exile
1x Return to Dust
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Anguished Unmaking
Goodstuff:14
1x Erebos, God of the Dead
1x Greed
1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1x Jester's Cap
1x Mimic Vat
1x Venser's Journal
1x Well of Lost Dreams
1x Phyrexian Arena
1x Rhystic Study
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Sphinx's Revelation
1x Blind Obedience
1x Propaganda
1x Alhammarret's Archive
Countermagic:1
1x Forbid
Land:37
1x Temple of Deceit
1x Temple of Enlightenment
1x Temple of Silence
1x Temple of the False God
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Drowned Catacomb
1x Underground River
1x Isolated Chapel
3x Swamp
1x Reflecting Pool
1x Strip Mine
1x Shimmering Grotto
3x Plains
1x Esper Panorama
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Orzhov Basilica
1x Maze of Ith
1x Mana Confluence
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Godless Shrine
3x Island
1x Opal Palace
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Evolving Wilds
1x Dimir Guildgate
1x Arcane Sanctum
1x Adarkar Wastes
1x Command Tower
1x City of Brass
1x Bojuka Bog
1x Azorius Guildgate
Thanks!
Definitely going to need some tutors, haven't decided what ones or how many just yet though. Thanks for the input!
I'm going to say Goodstuff. A few infinite combos (not trying to combo off consistently), definitely not Stax. It would multiplayer 9 times out of 10.
Looks interesting! I'll check her out, thank you for the recommendation!
Cards you already own: Basically all Modern staples except for Jund cards (Lilianas, Goyfs)
Colors you like to play: I honestly like them all
Style you like to play: Midrange, Combo, Control
Level you want to play at: Strictly for our bad modern night, no tier 1 decks allowed!
Thanks for looking!
That's the problem! I haven't been able to play since the banning/unbanning so I'm not sure what to expect. During regionals recently burn was all over, I'm not die if that's still the case.