thanks guys for the help. this deck is gonna be great once i finish the tweaks. I am going to yank
Vengeful Vampire,
Mikeaus, the Unhallowed,
Reap the Seagraf,
Noctornus
and add
3x Crippling Blight
So far. That leaves me short obviously, more tweaks to come. As a new player having only played against my brother - so i have no real experience against guys who play a lot - whats the deal with tormented soul? I've had decent sucess with him because he's cheap to play and also unblockable. No one seems to like this card, just wondering why?
You getting all this Stabby? That is what I shall call you from now on, stabby.
As for my pick I would say appetite main and druess side. neither one hits cheap creatures but only appetite hits most planeswalkers and thragtusk. Since thragtusk is a major player I would rather have answers for him. The only deck we would want duress in for is control and appetite will hit some of controls stuff like jace and tamiyo.
As a zombie player I wouldn't mind discarding a gravecrawler or a dreg mangler to lili anyway.
I am. I've been analyzing everyones input. Cant thank you all enough!
Thanks everyone. I ordered some of the cards I needed to put the rest of this deck together. I tried to use what a lot of you all suggested to get it just the way I want it.
Off of ebay - I got 4 Geralf's Messenger, 4 Gravecrawler, 1 Vampire Nighthawk to fill in some spots. I took out a bunch of the 1of's I had on the creature roster.
So here's what it looks like now -
Standard
standard is a rotating format. This means that every few years the legal cards of the format change. It is made up of the past two blocks and the current core set. Currently that includes
Innistrad Block= Innistrad(the set), Dark Ascension, and Avacyn Restored
The Current Core Set is called M13
And we just started the Ravnica Block with the set Return to Ravnica.
next year we will start a new set and the entire innistrad set will become illegal for use in standard. Sangromancer is from the set Mirroden Besieged in the scars of mirrodin block which rotated last month.
Modern
Modern is a non rotating format(cards only become illegal when they are banned by wizards of the coast). The cards that are legal in it is anything from 8th edition forward.
Legacy
Legacy is a non rotating format just as Modern but all cards are legal except banned cards. It is different from Vintage because they ban cards in an attempt to not have extremely broken stuff in the format to make it a bit more fair. If you ever see a vintage tournament you will know what I mean by "fair". Vintage is extremely broken as alot of decks can win by turn 1-2.
Vintage Not really something you have to worry about unless you have $4000 to drop on a deck right now. The costs are crazy but it is basically legacy without a strict banlist. A few of the cards that would normally be banned are restricted to 1 per deck.
Thanks for all this. If I ever get to a point where I'm doing tournaments, I guess I'd be playing in Modern Events because I kinda want to get a great couple of decks together and stick with them. At least that's how I feel now. It will probably change as new expansion come out down the road. Are there always Modern games at these tournaments or is it dominated by Standard events?
Hail fellow black mage and welcome. Always good to see more sheep flocking to the pit...I mean friends...*shifty eyes*
First off you will hear this every time you post a deck with 1-of's that aren't finishers in a control deck...you need 4. Got that out of the way. Now the arch type I have been playing the most is aggro, which this looks to be, so here we go. Note: this will be standard oriented as most of the cards seem standard.
Tormented soul is best when you have a reason to connect with him. The swords from scars, exalted triggers, any effect that says "when this creature deals combat damage to a player"... in this deck he is just a 1 damage per turn pinger.
With the ability to have 12 turn 1 2/x guys(creatures that have a 2 for power) Walking corpus is a bit lackluster. I would go with these guys:
Crypt keeper should be Tormods Crypt and it should be in the sideboard. If you don't yet know what a sideboard is don't worry it is more for tourneys and something you will learn as you play.
Sangromancer isn't standard so for the purposes of this exercise she is dropped.
Actually one of the best cards in the standard Zombie deck is a vampire. Blood Artist can win games. Night hawk is also another really good card in any deck that can cast it. The problem as I see it is a
dis-synergy(is that a word?) between the cards you run. a vampire deck that runs Vampire Nocturnus is great, but without a critical mass of vampire types it is hard to get alot of good use out of him.
K so my input mixed with a bit of bordom has made this
If your not opposed to running two colors(I know it's mono black clan but shhh!) splash 4 each of Dragonskull Summit and Blood Crypt . Then you can run dreadbore and flashback on bump in the night as well as a bit of various burn (direct damage red spells). You came at a bit of a hazy time in standard for mono colors. Ravnica is all about dual colored guilds. blacks current guilds are rakdos as black/red and golgari as black/green.
Anyway welcome to the clan and I'm sure in no time you will be welcomed as a full member.
Thanks. this was extremely helpful. My actual intention (need the cards to do this) is to bring - 4x Vampire Nighthawk and 4x Geralf's Messenger to get rid of alot of those 1of's I have. Now I'm starting to lean more to building a Vampire Deck and a separate Zombie deck.
Could get expensive! I tried to add cards that would benefit both zombies and vampires in the same deck (army of the dead, etc and Vampire Nocturnus)
what does it mean that Sangromancer isn't standard? Sorry, I'm new at all of this.
I really like the thought of bringing Rakdos Crackler. And I've been told repeatedly to get Blood Artist in there!
Greetings from Clan Mono-Black's esteemed Evincar (you guys have no clue how much I have wanted to say that :p). Our policy for membership is to have a deck of certain quality and while your deck might not be up to the level we'd like it to be, our members will more than certainly help you achieve that level. Until it reaches that level, feel free to post. We are a nice bunch and are easy to get along with. I assume you would like to be added as a friend for now then?
As for your deck, I can already see some potential. I'll tell you this now, it is a hell of a lot better than my first magic deck. I like your start of having 3 Nighthawks ( and I am also a fan of how you know Giant Scorpion should be a Nighthawk. This shows promise.) I cannot say enough how good the Nighthawk is. That said, There is something I must say about your deck. I see its being drawn in two directions. Vamprires vs Zombies. Consider picking one and going with that one, that and flesh the deck out with 4 ofs to make the deck more consistant. If you chose to go with Zombies, I know there is a very good, competitive standard deck for Zombies out there. Perhaps get ideas from there. I'm sure there is a vampire deck floating around in Developing too. Perhaps research those and get some ideas.
Again, you are welcomed to continue posting in Clan Mono-Black!
so on a side note for everyone here, in the realm of my EDH addiction, I have been considering switching Sedris to Nicol Bolas. As you can see from my sig of 850 EDH decks (ok, 18....) the first line is my "shards of Alara" series. Nicol Bolas is Grixisey enough. My only dilemma is that it gives Karrthus too much of an advantage over him....
Yes i'd like to be added as a friend to this group. My intention is to get rid of most of the 1of's that i have and replace them with cards to get up to 2of or 4of. I agree with everything that you said and suggested. I need to get out and buy another bunch of boosters. I was ideally going to get up 2 or 4 Geralf's Messengers, 4 Vampire Nighthawk, etc. But now maybe I will take your advice and build a zombie deck and a vampire deck! I thought I had selected a good group of cards that balanced well together, but like I said. I'm totally new to all of this!
Thanks a bunch for the insight.
Should I continue to repost the deck as I make changes?
and is it not kosher to mix decks like i've done (zombie/vampire)?
Hi all. So I'm sure this deck needs alot of work. I've been playing casual games with it and have had pretty good success. But I may have just been lucky. Also, some of the cards are in only for lack of some other cards. I tried to note that.
Greetings Clan Mono-Black. I just started playing mtg and I am a BIG fan of the mono decks and black is far and away my favorite. I built a deck that has won me some casual games. It's probably not a great deck - as i said I'm just starting, but I'd love to fulfill the first requirement of joining the clan.
can I just list the deck here?
j
anyway, here it is - again, it's not perfect. I'm still working on getting a few more of some of these cards so I can remove some others.
Brand new here. My brother just got me in to mtg and I am completely addicted already. I'm learning new ways to play, to put together decks, to mix and match cards, etc. Granted, the decks I'm building are probably pretty bad compared to some of the decks that some of the seasoned players are building, but I'm having a lot of fun (not to mention spending a lot of money)! I'm currently playing a mono black deck mostly from DA but using a few cards from 2013 and RTR.
Anyway, just wanted to say hello. Looking forward to joining in on the convos here
Vengeful Vampire,
Mikeaus, the Unhallowed,
Reap the Seagraf,
Noctornus
and add
3x Crippling Blight
So far. That leaves me short obviously, more tweaks to come. As a new player having only played against my brother - so i have no real experience against guys who play a lot - whats the deal with tormented soul? I've had decent sucess with him because he's cheap to play and also unblockable. No one seems to like this card, just wondering why?
jason
after a week or so of toiling, here's my deck...
4x Gravecrawler
4x Highborn Ghoul
4x Geralf's Messenger
4x Vampire Nighthawk
1x Liliana of the Dark Realm
2x Vengeful Vampire
1x Vampire Nocturnus
1x Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
2x Reap the Seagraf
4x Murder
4x Bump in the Night
thoughts??
I am. I've been analyzing everyones input. Cant thank you all enough!
Thanks everyone. I ordered some of the cards I needed to put the rest of this deck together. I tried to use what a lot of you all suggested to get it just the way I want it.
Off of ebay - I got 4 Geralf's Messenger, 4 Gravecrawler, 1 Vampire Nighthawk to fill in some spots. I took out a bunch of the 1of's I had on the creature roster.
So here's what it looks like now -
4x Gravecrawler
4x Highborn Ghoul
4x Geralf's Messenger
4x Vampire Nighthawk
2x Liliana's Shade
1x Liliana of the Dark Realm
2x Vengeful Vampire
1x Vampire Nocturnus
1x Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
2x Tragic Step
4x Murder
2x Reap the Seagraf
1x Sorin's Thirst
1x Endless Ranks of the Dead
1x Army of the Damned
looking forward to any more input. I really want to stick with both zombies and vampires for this one deck.
thanks!
J
j
Thanks for all this. If I ever get to a point where I'm doing tournaments, I guess I'd be playing in Modern Events because I kinda want to get a great couple of decks together and stick with them. At least that's how I feel now. It will probably change as new expansion come out down the road. Are there always Modern games at these tournaments or is it dominated by Standard events?
Thanks. this was extremely helpful. My actual intention (need the cards to do this) is to bring - 4x Vampire Nighthawk and 4x Geralf's Messenger to get rid of alot of those 1of's I have. Now I'm starting to lean more to building a Vampire Deck and a separate Zombie deck.
Could get expensive! I tried to add cards that would benefit both zombies and vampires in the same deck (army of the dead, etc and Vampire Nocturnus)
what does it mean that Sangromancer isn't standard? Sorry, I'm new at all of this.
I really like the thought of bringing Rakdos Crackler. And I've been told repeatedly to get Blood Artist in there!
Yes i'd like to be added as a friend to this group. My intention is to get rid of most of the 1of's that i have and replace them with cards to get up to 2of or 4of. I agree with everything that you said and suggested. I need to get out and buy another bunch of boosters. I was ideally going to get up 2 or 4 Geralf's Messengers, 4 Vampire Nighthawk, etc. But now maybe I will take your advice and build a zombie deck and a vampire deck! I thought I had selected a good group of cards that balanced well together, but like I said. I'm totally new to all of this!
Thanks a bunch for the insight.
Should I continue to repost the deck as I make changes?
and is it not kosher to mix decks like i've done (zombie/vampire)?
thanks again
jason
Please let me know what everyone thinks.
2x Walking Corpse
4x Highborn Ghoul
1x Crypt Creeper (for lack of another Walking Corpse or Tormented Soul)
3x Vampire Nighthawk
1x Geralf's Messenger
1x Chosen of Markov (for lack of either Geralf's Messenger, Vampire Nighthawk, or Walking Corpse)
1x Giant Scorpion (only because I don't have another Vampire Nighthawk)
1x Liliana's Shade
1x Sangromancer
1x Liliana of the Dark Realm
2x Farbog Boneflinger
2x Vengeful Vampire
1x Vampire Nocturnus
1x Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
2x Spiteful Shadows
4x Murder
2x Reap the Seagraf
1x Sorin's Thirst
1x Mark of the Vampire
1x Endless Ranks of the Dead
1x Army of the Damned
can I just list the deck here?
j
anyway, here it is - again, it's not perfect. I'm still working on getting a few more of some of these cards so I can remove some others.
2x Walking Corpse
4x Highborn Ghoul
1x Crypt Creeper (for lack of another Walking Corpse or Tormented Soul)
3x Vampire Nighthawk
1x Geralf's Messenger
1x Chosen of Markov (for lack of either Geralf's Messenger, Vampire Nighthawk, or Walking Corpse)
1x Giant Scorpion (only because I don't have another Vampire Nighthawk)
1x Liliana's Shade
1x Sangromancer
1x Liliana of the Dark Realm
2x Farbog Boneflinger
2x Vengeful Vampire
1x Vampire Nocturnus
1x Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
2x Spiteful Shadows
4x Murder
2x Reap the Seagraf
1x Sorin's Thirst
1x Mark of the Vampire
1x Endless Ranks of the Dead
1x Army of the Damned
Brand new here. My brother just got me in to mtg and I am completely addicted already. I'm learning new ways to play, to put together decks, to mix and match cards, etc. Granted, the decks I'm building are probably pretty bad compared to some of the decks that some of the seasoned players are building, but I'm having a lot of fun (not to mention spending a lot of money)! I'm currently playing a mono black deck mostly from DA but using a few cards from 2013 and RTR.
Anyway, just wanted to say hello. Looking forward to joining in on the convos here
jason