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Jan 16, 2014XBM Yosho posted a message on Primer constructionThus far it looks pretty solid. I agree with Obermeir on the inclusion of a Peasant section. It won't be a large section to add but it does give additional options.Posted in: -spooky- Blog
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Jun 14, 2013XBM Yosho posted a message on Banned from the casual forum for 2 weeks.I am very much with you Cz on calling people out on bad advice and the like, I do my very best to keep the paper Pauper/Peasant section alive much as you do with multiplayer, I gave it a rules thread, started the Primer sub-section and I actively call people out if they throw something horrid out there. I certainly hope I don't get a vague ban one day because of it.Posted in: Cz Blog
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Apr 20, 2013XBM Yosho posted a message on The only furry who plays Magic it seems.Really bored, got an update to the fursona picture, ExImperialDragon is the best!Posted in: XBM Yosho Blog
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I was thinking about that actually. A thought if the moderators were to approve it would be to delete them and re-post them under either you or I so we can keep it up to date. The Infect and Aura primers could use some love.
That's good, glad to have another Pauper player who can contribute. One downfall of primers though can either to not have enough suggestions and in other cases too many, most of which are garbage; but still suggestions are needed so we can please everyone.
I guess I missed your thread. I thought I scanned pretty well for one, sorry!
As for making a primer you can use one of mine or Obermeirs as a template in addition to reading over THIS thread.
Some primers didn't make it very far because certain things were never included or it was just very shoddy work overall. THIS is an example of what not to do. So make sure you add a good chunk of suggestions, not just how you play the deck. People want options! As-well sample deck lists with explanations, match up break down, the whole nine yards.
If you have a question or anything I'm sure myself or others can easily answer it.
I assume you meant Peasant?
At the end of it all I bumped the deck to Peasant and added Ajani's Pridemate and called it a day.
The only thing I can think of is how are you going to push through to get the lethal blow? That is the problem with my current Soul Sister deck, it gains lots of life and slowly grinds away. But put anything nasty in front of it and it crumbles.
Loyal Cathar is a great card, though I don't have room for him. Many people run with him literally all the time. They swear by him as if he was a Guardian of the Guildpact lol.
What do you think about this?
4 Doomed Traveler
4 Guardian of the Guildpact
4 Icatian Javelineers
3 War Falcon
4 Squadron Hawk
3 Standard Bearer
3 Suture Priest
4 Lotus Petal
3 Bonesplitter
3 Journey to Nowhere
3 Guardians' Pledge
2 Unmake
20 Plains
I actually really like that card, maybe you can come up with an aggro version of White Weenie?
I've used it before in an older version of my White Weenie deck, it was more of a developing version of White Weenie.
The card was perfect for tribal soldiers too. In the right soldier deck and if you run Lotus Petal you can do some serious damage quickly.
To sum it up, yes. Immaturity is an epidemic online.
People do it because the internet is a safety net. You can take a different 'tough guy' persona online with little to no substantial consequence in the real world. They either get a kick out of it, or don't have the capacity to understand when to drop a certain subject matter.
I agree, the project was in the works for awhile and it is finally completed. Any suggestions are always welcome to improve both this and the banned cards thread.
I haven't seen anyone actually bring up Caw Blade except for in this thread. It has been floating around for a while in limbo and has eventually transformed into a form of Delver; but I haven't heard a peep about it at my local meta in quite some time.
I have played several of my own Casual paper Pauper decks outside of the format and have done very well.
The Turbo-Fog deck can easily hold off a wide variety of decks that aren't prepared for it. I stomped a very well developed RG werewolf deck with complete ease for example with Turbo-Fog.
My Burn deck has done extremely well since it is basically the same as a Legacy one. My Affinity and White Weenie decks can also hold out but are not as consistent in long games as the previous two.
Casual paper Pauper.
It is true that Magic The Gathering Online Pauper has a ban list. That is because it is a sanctioned format and that sub-forum can be located HERE. This sub-forum however is for Casual paper Pauper and paper Peasant which are not sanctioned. The very essence of Casual is no ban list yet people seem to forget what governing forum they are in when they argue the point of a ban list or any restrictions. If you play with a banned card list, that is fine. But officially their isn't any.
Casual paper Pauper and paper Peasant have no official ban list, zero, none. Any ban list or restrictions enforced by anyone are not official. Some cards may be super broken or unfair but as it is a Casual format, unsanctioned by DCI or Wizards you can play with whatever you want as long as it is a common or was a common at one point on paper. If you choose to play with the online ban list or any restrictions just make sure you inform the community of such in your initial post.
For reference here is the Magic The Gathering Online: Pauper ban list and additional rules. Remember, these are not applicable to the Casual paper format unless your play group decides to use them.
The Pauper Magic Online banned list:
Common promo cards are only legal if the card has been printed before at the common rarity in a set or product.
(Once again, I cannot stress enough that these banned cards are for Magic Online and may or may not be in effect at your local tournament. Normally they're no banned cards in the the Casual paper version of the game.)
Casual paper Peasant doesn't have an online version but it does have its own unofficial ban and restricted list. All of that is below and once again it is not official, so within the Casual format you can use anything; it just depends on what your play group allows.
For reference here is the Magic The Gathering Peasant ban list and additional rules. Remember, these are not official and are only in use if your play group decides to use them.
All silver-bordered and gold-bordered commons and uncommons are banned.
(Once again, these banned cards are not "official" and may or may not be in effect at your local tournament.)
HERE is a link to the paper Peasant Magic website, you can read up more on the format there as it will be more detailed then what it written here.
Different playgroups have different rules when dealing with these cards from such sets as "The Dark", "Homelands", ect. The debate begins with whether or not these cards are actually common or uncommon and I will explain why. C1 is a rarity abbreviation for a card appearing 1 time on a "common" print sheet and C2 is a rarity abbreviation for a card appearing 2 times on a "common" print sheet. The same can be said for U1 and U2 as-well. In those days they had no specific "rare" rarity even though some cards were more scarce then others. If you apply today's rarity structure to the old sets this is where the confusion sets in. Normally when playing paper Pauper or paper Peasant the rule of once a common, always a common applies, however when dealing with the older sets which had a completely different rarity structure than the newer sets you start running into problems.
Since a C1 card was printed on the common sheet some consider it to be common regardless of how many times it was printed, others who go by today's rarity structure refer to it as an uncommon card because of how many times it was printed on the common sheet.
This is also true for U1 cards as they were printed on the uncommon sheets some consider these uncommon regardless of how many times it was printed, others who go by today's rarity structure refer to it as rare because of how many times it was printed on the uncommon sheet.
Now for something even more confusing, in the case of sets such as "Alliances" we have C1 common cards that have two different artworks but are both considered C1 common cards. However, they may be considered C2 common cards by some because even though they had two different artworks they are the same card printed twice.
Hopefully this clears up any confusion, whether or not a C1 card is usable in paper Pauper or U1 cards are usable in paper Peasant are going to be fully dependent on your playgroup and determine. Coming from a Casual format sense though if you want to play with them you can because as stated several times, they're no ban lists or restrictions. It is as you see it.
Here is a VERY in depth analysis of the rarities regarding the older sets written by BetweenWalls for your reading pleasure. Updated on 9/29/2013
1: The deck is quite slow, your 'real' turn starts on turn three so you are basically getting punched in the face for turns one and two.
2: My biggest problem with a turn three start is the opponent has basically saved any and all removal and counters.
When I have more time I can provide some suggestions but this was it for now.
All banned card and restricted information has been saved and removed. It will be placed into a new sticky to make things easier for the community to understand so we can eliminate a lot of the overly excessive questions regarding legality.