Also that isn't disingenuous at all, that's me being as straight faced as possible.
How bout this, if we stop referring to game throwing as an argument this game, and highroller stop's shading people for as you call it, "a difference of opinion", then I will be less passive aggressive towards him
You have also done very little I don't think anyone is going to debate this statement, Cantrip has said more in his very short iso than you have, so really it shouldn't be so hard to it together some coherent thoughts that aren't a long the lines of, "I'm voting because of policy", which does not belong in the game of mafia
That's me also being pretty straight forward with my opinion, and again it's not your job to look town, but it is your job to hunt for mafia if you are in fact town
@Tubba
Yeah, I’ve typed up three different responses and none of them are helpful. Kinda like outing yourself as a kill power third party for no reason, and then whining about the attention it draws.
I haven’t wanted to talk about policy lynch etc. but I’ve been asked about them. I’m not going to lead the town, I’m not confident enough in my reads for that. You’re not wrong in saying I could be more active, but my reads feel shallow.
@Azrael
Can you explain any of the scum pings that you quoted regarding Sloth and Johnny?
@Cuth
It bothers me that you are so relaxed. You didn’t care when Wisp voted you, you didn’t care when they charmed you. What up with that?
@Boom
Have you read anymore of the game? Give me your thoughts on 3 random players, excluding Tammy and Wisp.
@Highroller probably play a little better so you can find mafia, and then we won't have to worry
IDK wit seems to spread, so I am not at all worried about my wincon on day 2
especially given that I am already 1/3
RIP
the probably not partners thought is ok to be fair
Before emotions get high, let’s nip this sort of thing in the bud, right meow. Highroller has an opinion, the validity of which can be argued at length outside of the game. I agree with him to an extent, but you have to read the room. I don’t think that means hes playing poorly, and it’s disingenuous at best to imply that.
@Whoever wanted me to unpack my apology to Grape, this is probably another discussion best left for OoG, but essentially self-voting = game throwing which is detrimental to everyone playing and the people responsible for setting up and moderating the game. It’s reasonable to assume Grape put forth a not insubstantial amount of effort, and having it derailed by people just giving up is annoying.
Tubba, what does this mean? What do you mean by maybe that’s too much pressure
“Tammy is probably just pure and should probably be town core, but maybe that’s too much pressure right now. “
Like, if I had one chance to pick a townie, it’s be you. That means your intentions can be trusted, your positions can be trusted to be protown. The pressure would be wanting you to give more, and the possibility that even if you have good intentions, you could still just be wrong? Not just sheep you, but work with what you’re doing.
@Sloth
I had a scum read on CC prior to the self vote. I would policy vote a self voter, barring extenuating circumstances (basically a green check). I hate it, and will expound on that at length after the game.
Maybe I’m just too surface level? I don’t know. I definitely feel more comfortable in the background, solving through interactions than driving interactions.
I don’t like how Chad disappeared after getting called out and I don’t feel like Boom has done much to turn that around.
I would like to see more from Iso, Bur and WMU. It’s reasonable for scum to be hiding behind not doing much and while I can’t lay any claim to be tearing it up, it’s still true.
FWIW, I now believe almost everything Wisp has claimed. If there’s any doubt it’s that we’re in a multiball hellscape, but I don’t know how deep I wanna pursue that. If Wisp is working with someone it’s Cuth, I didn’t find the explanation for the early vote and the targeting of Cuth to hold much weight.
Azrael needs to cut the coy act and start explaining if not his reads, at least something from his scumcell spreadsheets.
CC looked like scum that got caught trying to make something out of nothing and had no back up plan, and had just given up. I would always vote there even if I thought there was little chance they were Scum. Self voting is bad for everyone involved in the game. If that’s the hill I die on, that’s fine.
Tammy is probably just pure and should probably be town core, but maybe that’s too much pressure right now.
I think I like Johnny, they’ve been pushing people to move the game and two votes feels like a townie power.
Vaimes doesn’t feel like jokey Jaime ****in Lannister (I was tantalizingly close to figuring it out), they don’t feel like they’re trying to hide in plain sight.
I’m suspicious of Cuth by association. Why wasn’t he more concerned with being targeted by Wisp? Probably not Witted, but Vitlity is pretty important.
KJ needs to come back and dazzle me, they had a hand in pushing CC to scrub out, and I can’t remember them talking about much else.
Highroller is a very sensational choice for Wisp to target, so that’s probably not what happened? I don’t think they’re lying, their attitude seems to real to be a put on to get Wisp killed. Scum would lie, but scum wouldn’t really need Wisp dead? Either exactly Wisp and Cuth are lying a la Harry Potter Carrow Crew, Highroller is lying, or there’s another ability that’s similar to Wisp’s. I’d slot them at 15%, 25%, and 60% respectively.
I apologize for the atrocious formatting, but I’m just throwing my thoughts out and it’s a pain to edit on mobile to begin with and the thumb situation doesn’t help. I will do my best to clarify anything.
If CC flips wolf, I think I move tubba up a few spots. The more I think about it, the more I think it's so easy to fake excitement about an outed wolf, that I just can't ever see that post coming from a wolf unless Tubba is a wolfy buddy steaming and posting on tilt. And I have never seen Tubba so much as get annoyed.
I’m not annoyed, I just think that that line of play needs to be stomped out. It’s crushing to the wolves if it’s a red flip, and it’s a wasted day for town if it’s a green flip. Frankly, our hands are tied. They’re no longer playing. Either we wait for a replacement (while not necessarily terrible for the Mod, still not great) or we policy vote anyone that puts the game in this position. It’s easier with Circles having scum equity before giving up, but as I’ve said I would make the same vote regardless of what I thought there alignment was.
@Highroller: lol, brother you don't know the half of it.
I'm not really interested in trying to fight this. Let's just get on with it.
Vote:CropCircles
Go Scum!!
Eww... Hate this.
I’d say you should claim, but it literally doesn’t even matter. You are either game throwing or game throwing and I think it’s a policy RFtG for me.
Vote CropCircles
Don't particularly like it. The claim part in particular, reads odd to me. AlmostIt’s exactly like Tubba is stating he thinks the role is town, but isn't going to put up with self voting.
That just seems like a really odd post to make as a wolf though. The slam dunk reaction would be to fake excitement about a wolf outing, even if you are upset on the inside.
FTFY
It’s an abdication of any desire to win the game, regardless of their alignment they are not playing to their wincon. Even if they weren’t in my scum pile I would vote this.
@Highroller: lol, brother you don't know the half of it.
I'm not really interested in trying to fight this. Let's just get on with it.
Vote:CropCircles
Go Scum!!
Eww... Hate this.
I’d say you should claim, but it literally doesn’t even matter. You are either game throwing or game throwing and I think it’s a policy RFtG for me.
@Highroller
I’m with you, I think you are right and Wisp should die. I can also see that that’s just not going to happen and we should move on content with being morally and intellectually superior.
Where we disagree is that Wisp is lying and possibly scum. I was sceptical, but it seems unlikely that alignment is something Wisp is lying about.
@All
I should’ve switched my vote to Chad after coming to grips with Wisp, consider my vote there but I’d like to hear what Boom thinks of the game.
@Wisp
How many charms can you have active at one time? You give a charm and drain 1, then at night you remove the charm and drain for another 1-3? Can you leave the charm on or do you need to reset each night? If you want me off your back you need to get supes clear as you can.
@Az
If you want to keep your town reads close to your chest, I won’t begrudge you it, but I need you to breakdown your post list of scum tells for GJ and Sloth. They seem rather innocuous?
Talking about me still is a waste of time, if we can't come to a conclusion at EoD just vote me and move on, but you will be moving on with 0 information, and a Mafia team that is still strong, probably stronger in worlds where one of them is my target and wants me dead as well
To be fair this is your own fault, your claim was unnecessary, ill timed and illogical. What did you think would happen?
Yeah, I’ve typed up three different responses and none of them are helpful. Kinda like outing yourself as a kill power third party for no reason, and then whining about the attention it draws.
I haven’t wanted to talk about policy lynch etc. but I’ve been asked about them. I’m not going to lead the town, I’m not confident enough in my reads for that. You’re not wrong in saying I could be more active, but my reads feel shallow.
@Azrael
Can you explain any of the scum pings that you quoted regarding Sloth and Johnny?
@Cuth
It bothers me that you are so relaxed. You didn’t care when Wisp voted you, you didn’t care when they charmed you. What up with that?
@Boom
Have you read anymore of the game? Give me your thoughts on 3 random players, excluding Tammy and Wisp.
Before emotions get high, let’s nip this sort of thing in the bud, right meow. Highroller has an opinion, the validity of which can be argued at length outside of the game. I agree with him to an extent, but you have to read the room. I don’t think that means hes playing poorly, and it’s disingenuous at best to imply that.
@Whoever wanted me to unpack my apology to Grape, this is probably another discussion best left for OoG, but essentially self-voting = game throwing which is detrimental to everyone playing and the people responsible for setting up and moderating the game. It’s reasonable to assume Grape put forth a not insubstantial amount of effort, and having it derailed by people just giving up is annoying.
Like, if I had one chance to pick a townie, it’s be you. That means your intentions can be trusted, your positions can be trusted to be protown. The pressure would be wanting you to give more, and the possibility that even if you have good intentions, you could still just be wrong? Not just sheep you, but work with what you’re doing.
@Sloth
I had a scum read on CC prior to the self vote. I would policy vote a self voter, barring extenuating circumstances (basically a green check). I hate it, and will expound on that at length after the game.
I don’t like how Chad disappeared after getting called out and I don’t feel like Boom has done much to turn that around.
I would like to see more from Iso, Bur and WMU. It’s reasonable for scum to be hiding behind not doing much and while I can’t lay any claim to be tearing it up, it’s still true.
FWIW, I now believe almost everything Wisp has claimed. If there’s any doubt it’s that we’re in a multiball hellscape, but I don’t know how deep I wanna pursue that. If Wisp is working with someone it’s Cuth, I didn’t find the explanation for the early vote and the targeting of Cuth to hold much weight.
Azrael needs to cut the coy act and start explaining if not his reads, at least something from his scumcell spreadsheets.
CC looked like scum that got caught trying to make something out of nothing and had no back up plan, and had just given up. I would always vote there even if I thought there was little chance they were Scum. Self voting is bad for everyone involved in the game. If that’s the hill I die on, that’s fine.
Tammy is probably just pure and should probably be town core, but maybe that’s too much pressure right now.
I think I like Johnny, they’ve been pushing people to move the game and two votes feels like a townie power.
Vaimes doesn’t feel like jokey Jaime ****in Lannister (I was tantalizingly close to figuring it out), they don’t feel like they’re trying to hide in plain sight.
I’m suspicious of Cuth by association. Why wasn’t he more concerned with being targeted by Wisp? Probably not Witted, but Vitlity is pretty important.
KJ needs to come back and dazzle me, they had a hand in pushing CC to scrub out, and I can’t remember them talking about much else.
Highroller is a very sensational choice for Wisp to target, so that’s probably not what happened? I don’t think they’re lying, their attitude seems to real to be a put on to get Wisp killed. Scum would lie, but scum wouldn’t really need Wisp dead? Either exactly Wisp and Cuth are lying a la Harry Potter Carrow Crew, Highroller is lying, or there’s another ability that’s similar to Wisp’s. I’d slot them at 15%, 25%, and 60% respectively.
I apologize for the atrocious formatting, but I’m just throwing my thoughts out and it’s a pain to edit on mobile to begin with and the thumb situation doesn’t help. I will do my best to clarify anything.
Vote ChadBoom Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
Unvote
Play Ball!
Self voting is terrible. Don’t do it anymore. There are less dramatic and detrimental ways to game health to get out of playing.
Sigh...Sorry Grape.
Vote Wisp
I’m not annoyed, I just think that that line of play needs to be stomped out. It’s crushing to the wolves if it’s a red flip, and it’s a wasted day for town if it’s a green flip. Frankly, our hands are tied. They’re no longer playing. Either we wait for a replacement (while not necessarily terrible for the Mod, still not great) or we policy vote anyone that puts the game in this position. It’s easier with Circles having scum equity before giving up, but as I’ve said I would make the same vote regardless of what I thought there alignment was.
😍 recommend me something/someone to read?
FTFY
It’s an abdication of any desire to win the game, regardless of their alignment they are not playing to their wincon. Even if they weren’t in my scum pile I would vote this.
Har dee har har... my theory at the time was sound, ask Highroller!
Eww... Hate this.
I’d say you should claim, but it literally doesn’t even matter. You are either game throwing or game throwing and I think it’s a policy RFtG for me.
Vote CropCircles
@Highroller
I’m with you, I think you are right and Wisp should die. I can also see that that’s just not going to happen and we should move on content with being morally and intellectually superior.
Where we disagree is that Wisp is lying and possibly scum. I was sceptical, but it seems unlikely that alignment is something Wisp is lying about.
@All
I should’ve switched my vote to Chad after coming to grips with Wisp, consider my vote there but I’d like to hear what Boom thinks of the game.
@Wisp
How many charms can you have active at one time? You give a charm and drain 1, then at night you remove the charm and drain for another 1-3? Can you leave the charm on or do you need to reset each night? If you want me off your back you need to get supes clear as you can.
@Az
If you want to keep your town reads close to your chest, I won’t begrudge you it, but I need you to breakdown your post list of scum tells for GJ and Sloth. They seem rather innocuous?
To be fair this is your own fault, your claim was unnecessary, ill timed and illogical. What did you think would happen?