@DV
This is reminiscent of Vaimes/Killjoy in F&E, but decidedly more heated. I'd place that at your feet. I don't think this level of abrasiveness is very helpful for town or solving. A scream fight won't actually unearth any reads. I'd be happy to look at a Vaimes case, but all I see when I read your posts are hammerstrokes and f-bombs. I would never vote with that. If you honestly think Vaimes is scum, pitch your case to the class instead of arguing in circles with him.
@Vaimes
Grape is decidedly more quiet this game, but I think it's way too early to read much into that.
It's still a good point, so for everyone voting Dan, can you go a little more in depth on the read? I've played one game with Dan and he didn't have a lot of time to make an impression.
@Tom
Why Dan? He seems a little more aggressive this game, but I could chalk that up to being moslynched d1 last game.
Also regarding the Vaimes melee, averages alone says there should be scum in that mix? You don't mention either Vaimes or DV, do you have some more specific thoughts of those two?
It's weird that you would ask Tom this and not any of the three other people voting Dan.
Still not really seeing Vaimes as scum, but he let DV get under his skin and was being a bit rough after that. Hoping to see that course reversed today.
@DV it's me isn't it? I should be scummiest but haven't posted enough to get myself there? There's plenty of time for that still.
Hey Rodemy! Since your asking for reads from people want to give us some spicy takes yourself?
The others mentioned their reasoning behind Dan to an extent. Tom just posted a vote.
@Tom
Why Dan? He seems a little more aggressive this game, but I could chalk that up to being moslynched d1 last game.
Also regarding the Vaimes melee, averages alone says there should be scum in that mix? You don't mention either Vaimes or DV, do you have some more specific thoughts of those two?
@Osie
You said earlier in reference to GJ that you didn't want to "read ahead", but you've put a fair amount of effort into a reads list. Is there an incongruity there or am I just nit picking?
@Grape
You said that Vaimes/DV is unlikely to be s/s, you then say that DV/GJ is unlikely to be both scum. Can you clarify that for me? Do you have a feeling one way or the other about any of them?
Well rod, I think I'm ready to do this. If we lose, then it will be to the some of the most spectacular scum theatre, and Dawn just don't seem really interested in playing anyway. Vote Dawn
Lol no. Vaimes killed dota in order to WIFOM it today and claim that I would believe him. Which is wrong. I want the hammer vote on Vaimes. Consider my vote there.
Ooo I got the same vibe.
vote vaimes
It's too late in the game to take easy ways out Rod. I understand the ISO is huge, but show some process. I'm like that annoying math teacher that wants to see your work.
vote Iso
Ride or die on my criminal mastermind theory. Pushed every single mislynch, consistently pushes a locked in POE on flimsy clears, and the only solving he's shown all game was to uncover masons.
To claim that Vaimes didn't kill Vezok because of wine is just that, wine. It doesn't solve anything. I've been back and forth on Vaimes all game, but this isn't an argument that's going to convince me anytime soon.
Oh, I was gonna switch back to vaimes but this works too.
Really, I 100% think if iso was scum he'd lynch masons as early as he found them. It's possible that his partners were under suspicion before and he had to shake things up, but that still leaves them in the Poe (specifically, probably tubba and grape). However, grape/tubba/vaimes is just a team that makes so much more sense. Vaimes is always a wolf at this point and i thijnk that means iso is evwn less likely to be scum than before. I know it looks awfully convenient but I have been trying to solve kj/vaimes since day 1 and nobody has been following me on that. Just gimme a chance k
I asked you about it. twice. Both times you hand waved it away. What else ya got?
@Vaimes: Seriously, if you are town you are doing a piss poor job of both showing it and actually reading the game. I've wanted you to be town since day 1 and actually tried to communicate with you. I tried to tell you that I'm town and voting me does nothing. You insisted on pushing my wagon until I had to reveal I'm a mason. (quick aside: Iso knew who the masons were, while you didn't. gan kill makes more sense coming from a team with you). You then went after ******* Senteza who was the towniest town to ever town with bull***** reasons about how you meta-read her in her first game by reading someone who has a similar play style to her. I told you to change your mind, because reasons. You insisted on saying I'm an idiot who can't see Senteza is scum. Whoopsie daisy, Senteza was actually my mason buddy, but you couldn't even read into that. You then went after Iso with another bull***** conspiracy of how he power-wolfed and pocketed the entire playerlist by playing badly. I told you to drop it cause I don't want to discuss it until LyLo. This was actually me offering you an olive branch. What did you do? ******* started a wagon on Iso on a day that was not LyLo. Now you come into the thread and accuse me of tunneling and not accepting a picture with Iso scum.
I would have been inclined to believe you if yet another person flipped town from the Poe (Preferably Tubba, who I've wanted dead since day 1 and you derailed all my attempts to get him lynched). Instead you went out and ***** the bead and cry that nobody listens to you.
And for some godforsaken reason more than half the playerlist doesn't want to lynch you cause, let me see... you have many posts and you come up with crazy theories.
I don't want to play with you ever again. You make me feel miserable every time I read your posts.
@grape: If you flip town, I'm sorry for lynching you, but it's your fault for not joining the Vaimes wagon. Unless you have a better idea of who the last partner of Vaimes/Tubba is I don't want to hear your blabbering in thread.
If you weren't a mason I'd policy vote you. Useless, close minded b/s.
So what'd I miss....
Grape? Grape? Graaaaaaaappppeee?!?
Why Grape? Y'know the conftown starting wagons is killing us. It's like you can't see past your hands or something. Oh, he has flexible reads that don't line up with the only game state where I'm not a prat?!? Kill him! He must be lying because other options are impossible!
Mikey's post for the last page and a half are scumtastic, evasive, brushing aside theories because they don't suit him, the whole weird "this is Mikey, on mobile" thing. Nobody suspicious of that. Grape critically thinks about the game "Obv scum!!!!"
Iso puts on another clinic to bury someone with nothing! He makes no convincing argument! "Just keep lynching these five people I told you to and we can't lose" No *****! Of course he can't lose, you're doing all the work for him! If we don't lynch Mikey or Iso tomorrow I'm gonna plotz.
Like, why is it so hard to envision the gambit? He only knew who one mason was! Why shoot the only one you know about when you can watch their interactions to pick up the rest? Everyone says "you need to shoot masons to win" sure, and once they knew them all they started to shoot them. That's how I would do it, and I'm in my first mason game! I get that's a world where you look really dumb, but mistakes were made. You get one more. Consider who's been in the drivers seat for this game, that's been tremendously scumsided. It wasn't Ruma, it wasn't Killjoy, and it sure as hell wasnt Grape (thank you for your service Grape), but isn't it convenient how one of the solviest townies is gone?
This is reminiscent of Vaimes/Killjoy in F&E, but decidedly more heated. I'd place that at your feet. I don't think this level of abrasiveness is very helpful for town or solving. A scream fight won't actually unearth any reads. I'd be happy to look at a Vaimes case, but all I see when I read your posts are hammerstrokes and f-bombs. I would never vote with that. If you honestly think Vaimes is scum, pitch your case to the class instead of arguing in circles with him.
@Vaimes
Grape is decidedly more quiet this game, but I think it's way too early to read much into that.
The others mentioned their reasoning behind Dan to an extent. Tom just posted a vote.
Why Dan? He seems a little more aggressive this game, but I could chalk that up to being moslynched d1 last game.
Also regarding the Vaimes melee, averages alone says there should be scum in that mix? You don't mention either Vaimes or DV, do you have some more specific thoughts of those two?
You said earlier in reference to GJ that you didn't want to "read ahead", but you've put a fair amount of effort into a reads list. Is there an incongruity there or am I just nit picking?
@Grape
You said that Vaimes/DV is unlikely to be s/s, you then say that DV/GJ is unlikely to be both scum. Can you clarify that for me? Do you have a feeling one way or the other about any of them?
Meesa been tinking yousa should bow to the true dark lord!
Vote Dawn
Vote Mikey
Methinks he doth protest too much, and now he must die
It's too late in the game to take easy ways out Rod. I understand the ISO is huge, but show some process. I'm like that annoying math teacher that wants to see your work.
Ride or die on my criminal mastermind theory. Pushed every single mislynch, consistently pushes a locked in POE on flimsy clears, and the only solving he's shown all game was to uncover masons.
To claim that Vaimes didn't kill Vezok because of wine is just that, wine. It doesn't solve anything. I've been back and forth on Vaimes all game, but this isn't an argument that's going to convince me anytime soon.
I asked you about it. twice. Both times you hand waved it away. What else ya got?
If you weren't a mason I'd policy vote you. Useless, close minded b/s.
Grape? Grape? Graaaaaaaappppeee?!?
Why Grape? Y'know the conftown starting wagons is killing us. It's like you can't see past your hands or something. Oh, he has flexible reads that don't line up with the only game state where I'm not a prat?!? Kill him! He must be lying because other options are impossible!
Mikey's post for the last page and a half are scumtastic, evasive, brushing aside theories because they don't suit him, the whole weird "this is Mikey, on mobile" thing. Nobody suspicious of that. Grape critically thinks about the game "Obv scum!!!!"
Iso puts on another clinic to bury someone with nothing! He makes no convincing argument! "Just keep lynching these five people I told you to and we can't lose" No *****! Of course he can't lose, you're doing all the work for him! If we don't lynch Mikey or Iso tomorrow I'm gonna plotz.
Like, why is it so hard to envision the gambit? He only knew who one mason was! Why shoot the only one you know about when you can watch their interactions to pick up the rest? Everyone says "you need to shoot masons to win" sure, and once they knew them all they started to shoot them. That's how I would do it, and I'm in my first mason game! I get that's a world where you look really dumb, but mistakes were made. You get one more. Consider who's been in the drivers seat for this game, that's been tremendously scumsided. It wasn't Ruma, it wasn't Killjoy, and it sure as hell wasnt Grape (thank you for your service Grape), but isn't it convenient how one of the solviest townies is gone?