@Rod
What do you like about Tom's game so far? If I recall it's pretty much a meme that you are suspicious of him in every game. What's different this game?
@All
I think Gozer the Gozerian sounds the tamest. Like he's just a guy from Gozeropolis, carrying out their day.
Still cradling Marko to his chest the creature rolls to it's feet. The ceiling smashes down as two archangels plunge through it, golden blades gleaming
I've been re-reading from the beginning while I'm waiting to die. I don't think it's Titus anymore. I don't think it's T-Dubs either. I think it's Scarlet Celestial. I've picked out some posts from the first five pages of the game, that I found interesting.
And I copy, paste, deleted them.
While I dig them out again, take a look at some of their interactions starting around page 2, notably the ones with RE1031, and Tammy. There's also some with both Grape and Osie that stand out.
I'll dig out the post numbers again, but they shouldn't be this sure I'm scum, after hopping on Titus VCA theory.
The creature nods it head, following along with your reasoning. It bobs Marko's head in sync
@Scarlet Celestial
I get it, it's just wrong. We are missing something. I can't tell you what it is. Don't you think it slightly stretches the bounds of plausibility that my interactions with Grape and Osie/Wheat was scum theatre? What was scum!Me hoping to gain? Where is my win condition? What agenda have I been pushing? I guess I'm asking you to look at both sides of the coin. What do you do if I flip town?
@Marko
I was referencing her agreement with Titus that I'm scum based on VCA.
You state that you don't understand why Titus would give up on Grape, whilst defending Osie, I thought that meant Osie was scum power.
As far as defeatism goes, I'd like to think it's more like fatalism. The thread has largely expressed desire to lynch me. It's unlikely I can change that outcome, so short of shaking some trees and see if anything falls out, it's just a waiting game.
Tell me your thoughts on TW.
Suffering from several grievous wounds, the creature still finds the strength to cuddle MarkoRaj to it's chest. It brushes the hair/fur/scales/goo/whatever from his face/you get the idea and whispers "Who hurt you?"
(I'd hope for my team to receive special consideration due to my stellar rp and commitment to said rp.)
Rp is dumb. There I said it
I can't tell what kind of credit you are looking for here but I hope it's not the villagery kind
I do indeed still think it's the worst but I will do my due diligence today at some point
It was a joke, jeez...
Remind me to never set up my deathbed where you can kick the legs out from under it again.
If I could think of something villagery to do at this point I would, but nobody really cares what I have to say/think and it's not exactly groundbreaking so I can't even blame them. I won't be self-voting on principle (nods to Empoof's teammate), so here we are.
Since we're talking, what do you think about Titus, Celestial's agreement with Titus, and what makes TW a more likely candidate?
Huddled up underneath a thick wooden table, the creature is licking it's wounds and cursing the circumstances that got it here. "Marilith a little lamb? Yeech."
Go back and look at things. Scarlet Celestial is far too sure(obviously), but I dunno. It's hard to not look side eyed at Titus, the hard defense of Osie, and basically scum reading me with next to nothing with no engagement is pretty rough. Good luck, have fun and please, please re-evaluate what's going on.
(I'd hope for my team to receive special consideration due to my stellar rp and commitment to said rp.)
Golden columns of light stab through the library roof, burning demons to cinders. Despite it's great bulk, the creature manages to dodge several shafts before a mighty bolt strikes squarely in it's chest. Singed and smouldering, the creature limps out of the spells range
third thingy is also probs a scum PR btw which is super consistent with Tubbz' slow burn entrance to d1 and what honestly looks like distancing.
I fe like the gamestate isn't really indicative of a deepwolf but also like I guess that'd just make them deeper hey
Tubbz you just said its prolly Titus and if it's not Titus it's prolly me. given that's the intuitive lynchpath why do you think it's necessary to talk about a deepwolf here?
You're arguably "deep", but really once I'm gone the margin for error goes too. I think it's most likely Titus, but I'm not sure it's Titus. The remaining town players need to be analytical about the next lynch and not just make assumptions. (More assumptions. <eye roll>) SC's logic regarding how suicidal Titus' push on me would be, is frankly hard to argue with. I just know it's wrong. I can't explain why it's wrong other than saying I'm town tho, so YMMV.
Tubba, both your votes on your teammates came after they voted themselves and therefore were already outed. I myself looked at the VCs and I WORKED OUT WHY THEY WOULD VOTE YOU and it probably only comes from them as Town. Most of your defence rests upon you saying how your actions would've been as scum, but that's some pretty bad wine right there.
Based on playing with them prior and what was said of their usual scum game, I wouldn't say this were their scum game and as such that leaves only you. If I'm wrong, then Titus should burn to hell after you're dead, but I'm pretty certain that you must be the final scum.
@Scarlet Rage What do you think of my work with EoD VCs from yesterDay?
Ok, lay it out for the dumb kids then.
I mean, the game isn't lost if I'm lynched here, but what is my scumread really based on? I talked to Grape??? I talked to Osie??? I voted scum out??? It's not me, and if it's not Titus we are in trouble with a deep wolf. You say that it's wine, but ask yourself why would scum!me bus both my partners and practically no one else? It's not bad wine, it's nonsensical.
The creature's minions are running amok throughout the library, sending whole shelves of books into flames. The creature is chasing them around, bopping them over the head and stuffing them into a sack
Eyeballing the VCs, I would say Empoof and Marko are near certain town.
Tubba, I don't think you are town but humor me for sake of argument. If I am town, who is scum in your worldview?
That's a big IF Titus, with the gap made wider by your stubborn,steadfast refusal to address my concerns and questions, but ok. If you're town, my next likely suspect would have to be trob/the worst. They never explained why they were willing to back off Osie/Wheat and come after me, in spite of both me and Tammy asking about it. Marko is a distant possibility based on largely being on the fringes of the game without contributing much. SC probably isn't scum based on their overall activity and engagement with the thread, and Empoof hasn't really tried to bury anyone, so I don't think he's scum either. I mean that I think if Empoof were scum I'd probably be dead already, and he seems more interested in figuring things out when scum!Empoof just votes me and moves on.
Put my shoes on and look at the game. If I'm town where do you look next?
The creature is angrily trying to maintain control over it's newly summoned army. Losing their primary general has left him a task akin to herding feral cats
@Scarlet Celestial
Tammy seemed to be questioning Titus' assumptions with her last few posts, and came well shy of concluding me as scum. Besides that, my play as scum was to call both of my teammates into suspicion, and to vote both of them out of the game? With no effort to preserve them in any way? I'm not a great player but does it make sense for any player to be that bad??? Yes, I had interactions with Grape early game. By your count, so did most of the other players to some extent. What about my interactions are more likely to come from s/s? Grape was acting differently than what I'm used to seeing him play as, so I was interested in figuring him out. The same goes for the Osie slot. Speaking of the Osie slot, why wouldn't I have done more/anything to pres there? I could have cited giving the replacement time to get into the game, or instead of openly disagreeing with Titus about basically everything, I could have begrudgingly conceded that maybe they had a point on Osie slot.
As far as the third point regarding EoD VCA, I'm gonna rip my hair out if one more person piles on that Ord Mantell garbage freight train. Like, the person who originated that theory on me being scum because of votes has yet (despite being point blank asked several times) to explain it, and you cite it as well????
@Empoof
Talk to me about your Titus read. I see hiding behind VCA, hard pres-ing of confscum, attempting to claim a kill attempt on their person, and setting up a narrative to get me mislynched.
The creature has been busy summoning a horde of lesser demons. Studying one of the other books in the library has convinced it that this world is ripe for conquest
@Scarlet Celestial
I can't find much fault with your reasoning. I would say that if Titus could pull the game over to me and preserve likely scum!pr Wheat, it could be an equitable trade. They would even be able to argue that I was an ok lynch based on VCA and my lack of overtly town play to try and keep themselves in the game. I think they're just folding at this point, Wheat's self vote seems to be pretty evident of a deflated scum team. I guess it's possible that Titus is just wrong town, but they're the only
player I perceive to be pushing an agenda.
The creature sits atop a makeshift throne, dressed as an old time judge complete with a long white wig
@Titus
<snip>
I can be a little inattentive to details, but I'm having a hard time locating my alleged swing vote. Would you please point it out and break it down for me? I'd like to move on but it's bugging me.
I'm thinking Grape/Osie(Wheat)/Titus, or super spicy world of Grape/Titus/Trobairitz(the worst).
Scum!Titus has been hiding behind the nebulous cloud of VCA, avoiding taking serious stances and pushes against players. The vote count doesn't reflect anything in regards to me and Grape, and they refuse to explain how it does. Look at post #1755 as an example of Titus setting up a narrative.
Trob/Worst, the main thing here is how easily Worst from wanting to lynch Osie to just being willing to go with the flow. Coupled with some strange interactions with Grape early game and then disappearing to the point of replacing out puts the slot on my radar.
I don't have anything new to say about Osie's play, Wheat taking the tack of challenging widely town read and townfirmed players seems diversionary and not genuine. It also makes no sense for scum!Titus to bus Grape to save town!Osie. Osie is likely scum pr in my mind.
I'd lynch Titus or Osie, preferably in that order.
Vote Titus
You haven't made that many votes. I have gone over my thought process with votes several times.
What do you think of someone trying to kill me? What roles involve Will Saves?
Three. Ara, Grape and you.
Spell it out for me, humour me. Stop dancing around and take on the question. Your entire premise of scum!me is based on it, so just clarify. What about my vote on Ara, aligns me with Grape?
As far as roles that require will saves, controllers mostly. Will saves are typically strong against standard mobs, less useful against single bbeg's. I'm not sure how I feel about someone trying to kill you. My perspective has you trying to kill me, I'm kinda biased.
Tubba read on Trob is stinky
has he had any trajectory on that or just realised he needs to SR me bc the lad is howling
Well, I think it's substantially better than your progression on me. I bothered to have reasons in mine. Seriously, Tammy asked the same question I did. What changed you from wanting Osie gone post haste, to me? I've checked the iso and there's not a lot going on there.
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I can be a little inattentive to details, but I'm having a hard time locating my alleged swing vote. Would you please point it out and break it down for me? I'd like to move on but it's bugging me.
I'm thinking Grape/Osie(Wheat)/Titus, or super spicy world of Grape/Titus/Trobairitz(the worst).
Scum!Titus has been hiding behind the nebulous cloud of VCA, avoiding taking serious stances and pushes against players. The vote count doesn't reflect anything in regards to me and Grape, and they refuse to explain how it does. Look at post #1755 as an example of Titus setting up a narrative.
Trob/Worst, the main thing here is how easily Worst from wanting to lynch Osie to just being willing to go with the flow. Coupled with some strange interactions with Grape early game and then disappearing to the point of replacing out puts the slot on my radar.
I don't have anything new to say about Osie's play, Wheat taking the tack of challenging widely town read and townfirmed players seems diversionary and not genuine. It also makes no sense for scum!Titus to bus Grape to save town!Osie. Osie is likely scum pr in my mind.
I'd lynch Titus or Osie, preferably in that order.
What do you like about Tom's game so far? If I recall it's pretty much a meme that you are suspicious of him in every game. What's different this game?
@All
I think Gozer the Gozerian sounds the tamest. Like he's just a guy from Gozeropolis, carrying out their day.
Vote Gozer the Gozerian
Hold up. Stop whatever you're supposedly doing with your life right now, and watch this movie.
Vote RE1031
Also Richard Peck did nothing wrong.
Fight me.
I've been re-reading from the beginning while I'm waiting to die. I don't think it's Titus anymore. I don't think it's T-Dubs either. I think it's Scarlet Celestial. I've picked out some posts from the first five pages of the game, that I found interesting.
And I copy, paste, deleted them.
While I dig them out again, take a look at some of their interactions starting around page 2, notably the ones with RE1031, and Tammy. There's also some with both Grape and Osie that stand out.
I'll dig out the post numbers again, but they shouldn't be this sure I'm scum, after hopping on Titus VCA theory.
@Scarlet Celestial
I get it, it's just wrong. We are missing something. I can't tell you what it is. Don't you think it slightly stretches the bounds of plausibility that my interactions with Grape and Osie/Wheat was scum theatre? What was scum!Me hoping to gain? Where is my win condition? What agenda have I been pushing? I guess I'm asking you to look at both sides of the coin. What do you do if I flip town?
@Marko
I was referencing her agreement with Titus that I'm scum based on VCA.
You state that you don't understand why Titus would give up on Grape, whilst defending Osie, I thought that meant Osie was scum power.
As far as defeatism goes, I'd like to think it's more like fatalism. The thread has largely expressed desire to lynch me. It's unlikely I can change that outcome, so short of shaking some trees and see if anything falls out, it's just a waiting game.
Tell me your thoughts on TW.
It was a joke, jeez...
Remind me to never set up my deathbed where you can kick the legs out from under it again.
If I could think of something villagery to do at this point I would, but nobody really cares what I have to say/think and it's not exactly groundbreaking so I can't even blame them. I won't be self-voting on principle (nods to Empoof's teammate), so here we are.
Since we're talking, what do you think about Titus, Celestial's agreement with Titus, and what makes TW a more likely candidate?
Go back and look at things. Scarlet Celestial is far too sure(obviously), but I dunno. It's hard to not look side eyed at Titus, the hard defense of Osie, and basically scum reading me with next to nothing with no engagement is pretty rough. Good luck, have fun and please, please re-evaluate what's going on.
(I'd hope for my team to receive special consideration due to my stellar rp and commitment to said rp.)
You're arguably "deep", but really once I'm gone the margin for error goes too. I think it's most likely Titus, but I'm not sure it's Titus. The remaining town players need to be analytical about the next lynch and not just make assumptions. (More assumptions. <eye roll>) SC's logic regarding how suicidal Titus' push on me would be, is frankly hard to argue with. I just know it's wrong. I can't explain why it's wrong other than saying I'm town tho, so YMMV.
Ok, lay it out for the dumb kids then.
I mean, the game isn't lost if I'm lynched here, but what is my scumread really based on? I talked to Grape??? I talked to Osie??? I voted scum out??? It's not me, and if it's not Titus we are in trouble with a deep wolf. You say that it's wine, but ask yourself why would scum!me bus both my partners and practically no one else? It's not bad wine, it's nonsensical.
That's a big IF Titus, with the gap made wider by your stubborn,steadfast refusal to address my concerns and questions, but ok. If you're town, my next likely suspect would have to be trob/the worst. They never explained why they were willing to back off Osie/Wheat and come after me, in spite of both me and Tammy asking about it. Marko is a distant possibility based on largely being on the fringes of the game without contributing much. SC probably isn't scum based on their overall activity and engagement with the thread, and Empoof hasn't really tried to bury anyone, so I don't think he's scum either. I mean that I think if Empoof were scum I'd probably be dead already, and he seems more interested in figuring things out when scum!Empoof just votes me and moves on.
Put my shoes on and look at the game. If I'm town where do you look next?
@Scarlet Celestial
Tammy seemed to be questioning Titus' assumptions with her last few posts, and came well shy of concluding me as scum. Besides that, my play as scum was to call both of my teammates into suspicion, and to vote both of them out of the game? With no effort to preserve them in any way? I'm not a great player but does it make sense for any player to be that bad??? Yes, I had interactions with Grape early game. By your count, so did most of the other players to some extent. What about my interactions are more likely to come from s/s? Grape was acting differently than what I'm used to seeing him play as, so I was interested in figuring him out. The same goes for the Osie slot. Speaking of the Osie slot, why wouldn't I have done more/anything to pres there? I could have cited giving the replacement time to get into the game, or instead of openly disagreeing with Titus about basically everything, I could have begrudgingly conceded that maybe they had a point on Osie slot.
As far as the third point regarding EoD VCA, I'm gonna rip my hair out if one more person piles on that Ord Mantell garbage freight train. Like, the person who originated that theory on me being scum because of votes has yet (despite being point blank asked several times) to explain it, and you cite it as well????
@Empoof
Talk to me about your Titus read. I see hiding behind VCA, hard pres-ing of confscum, attempting to claim a kill attempt on their person, and setting up a narrative to get me mislynched.
@Scarlet Celestial
I can't find much fault with your reasoning. I would say that if Titus could pull the game over to me and preserve likely scum!pr Wheat, it could be an equitable trade. They would even be able to argue that I was an ok lynch based on VCA and my lack of overtly town play to try and keep themselves in the game. I think they're just folding at this point, Wheat's self vote seems to be pretty evident of a deflated scum team. I guess it's possible that Titus is just wrong town, but they're the only
player I perceive to be pushing an agenda.
Vote Wheat
Three. Ara, Grape and you.
Spell it out for me, humour me. Stop dancing around and take on the question. Your entire premise of scum!me is based on it, so just clarify. What about my vote on Ara, aligns me with Grape?
As far as roles that require will saves, controllers mostly. Will saves are typically strong against standard mobs, less useful against single bbeg's. I'm not sure how I feel about someone trying to kill you. My perspective has you trying to kill me, I'm kinda biased.
Well, I think it's substantially better than your progression on me. I bothered to have reasons in mine. Seriously, Tammy asked the same question I did. What changed you from wanting Osie gone post haste, to me? I've checked the iso and there's not a lot going on there.
@Titus
I can be a little inattentive to details, but I'm having a hard time locating my alleged swing vote. Would you please point it out and break it down for me? I'd like to move on but it's bugging me.
I'm thinking Grape/Osie(Wheat)/Titus, or super spicy world of Grape/Titus/Trobairitz(the worst).
Scum!Titus has been hiding behind the nebulous cloud of VCA, avoiding taking serious stances and pushes against players. The vote count doesn't reflect anything in regards to me and Grape, and they refuse to explain how it does. Look at post #1755 as an example of Titus setting up a narrative.
Trob/Worst, the main thing here is how easily Worst from wanting to lynch Osie to just being willing to go with the flow. Coupled with some strange interactions with Grape early game and then disappearing to the point of replacing out puts the slot on my radar.
I don't have anything new to say about Osie's play, Wheat taking the tack of challenging widely town read and townfirmed players seems diversionary and not genuine. It also makes no sense for scum!Titus to bus Grape to save town!Osie. Osie is likely scum pr in my mind.
I'd lynch Titus or Osie, preferably in that order.
Vote Titus