@Killjoy
If scumVoxx is real, claiming role blocked is a risk, but if it works, gives him a good chance to survive and do some damage. The payoff is more players rolling to his narrative, no longer seriously suspecting him at worst, and taking his opinions as gospel at best. If he solidifies even just two or three town reads on him, it works to buy him a few days/possible mislynches. It leaves him open to claim at a later date, and open to pushing fake news on the thread. While this is simply a theory of mine at this point, I want everyone to be aware of the possibilities and not fall prey to the gambit.
I've had a town read on you since your return from the V/LA. Before that I was a bit uncertain but your posts from that point onwards read to me as pure info spill, you're putting down everything that's going through your mind and none of it reads as scum trying to push an agenda.
Vaimes dying on night 1 solidifies that read for me because the two of you have a history together and I think scumVoxx would keep a townVaimes who wasn't scumreading him alive as long as possible because, if played correctly, he would defend you to the end or, if you flip he gets mislynched as a partner.
I could possibly see one of Shadow and Killjoy having a hand in selecting Vaimes as the N1 target, but I have kinda have townreads on both at the moment.
I disagree with the bolded text. Vaimes townreading Voxx, then flipping town is the second best thing that could happen to scumVoxx. Best was nk power role to boot. scumVoxx makes a killing with this play, and doesn't have to worry about Vaimes (a player of some experience I assume, and familiar with Voxx as well?) ever suspecting him.
I'm going to throw down where I'm at. If I get your gender wrong I'm sorry, I'm just typing instinctively and I have no idea who any of you are (apart from the Bear).
The most important thing I think town should know about me is that I am an emotional player and tend to trust my feelings and instinct more than actual content, but only if those feelings are especially strong. Also, this doesn't mean I don't take note of content because I do. I'll to give a loose example; if I have a strong feeling that someone is mafia, they'll have to produce more substantial content from a town perspective than someone who I have no strong feelings about in order for me to read them town. Of course the opposite applies too.
Tubba completely avoiding addressing my post is pretty bonkers considering the other engagement he's shown.
Junna's continued evasiveness (which was brought up on day one by me and others) and misinformation has pretty much hit breaking point for me. I'd be happy to lynch her today if Tubba doesn't get traction (or if he preforms a miracle).
I just don't see the benefit in doing any heavy lifting to change your opinion of me. Your read is wrong, and that's all there is to it. My play style doesn't match up with your expectations. I'm ok with it. Since that's a non-starter, I'm not going to say anything else about it.
I think your off on Jenna as well. While her posts are certainly cryptic at first glance, imo she's not spreading misinformation nor being especially evasive. I was frustrated by the posting style as well, but would scum really draw such negative attention? That's a hell of a gambit.
Speaking of gambits, I can't help but be suspicious of Voxx right now. He's perfectly suited to take a chance on a Hail Mary after banking town cred on the Vaimes read of him.
That's a post series that muddles the game as opposed to helping solve it. Town chases its tail trying to figure out how scum knows where the power is, we give Voxx more town cred as town power, but we don't actually gain any information.
This assumes scumVoxx is real, of course. That's something I want to hear opinions on.
Everyone. One of the best things scum had going for us last game was town's hesitance to communicate. The more people get engaged the easier it will be to find the people hiding things.
Part of the reason I locked onto Osie was a similarity from the last game we were in. When JeY started to scumread Eternal, scum was quick to discredit and turn the read around on her. So, with an Osie town flip that reasoning goes down the drain and I'm back to square one.
If Shadow is town (50/50 imo), I still have to think there's at least one scum on that wagon. It's too tempting to pass up, a potential page 1/2 lynch with hardly any interactions to backtrack and analyse. Vaimes=town, Osie=town, Dot=?, Jenna=?, Voxx=???.
If Shadow is scum, I still think there's probably a scum on there, for distancing and possible town crowd with a Shadow scum flip.
@Tubba:I have a question relating to something you said in the scumchat of Low Fantasy: You implied you didn't know what to fake when trying to fake as town. Low Fantasy was obviously your first game, and you were scum. Have you still never been town?
This is my first time as town. I take it that it shows?🙃
@Voxx
Regarding your feelings on Bear, I'm inclined to take your word for it, I've no previous experience with them so everything you say could be true and a perfectly valid reason to put vote pressure on them. However, I dont think you are going to be able to bring enough people on with what is essentially a meta read to make a lynch happen there. Talk to me about Osie, Tau, Dot and Colin. Does your meta offer you any insight on those players?
@Tubba Fett
Why are you inclined to take Voxx's word for anything? Are you townreading Voxx? If so, why had you not mentioned it before this post? Why didn't you vote A Bear here?
I misspoke. I mean, what choice do I have though, I don't know Bear. Does that make sense?
I'm not taking Voxx's word for anything. I want to know what he thinks about meta reads in general, and what he has to say about the people I asked about.
Voxx is in the middle for me right now, but I don't need a townread on him to want to hear what he has to say.
I've had a town read on you since your return from the V/LA. Before that I was a bit uncertain but your posts from that point onwards read to me as pure info spill, you're putting down everything that's going through your mind and none of it reads as scum trying to push an agenda.
Vaimes dying on night 1 solidifies that read for me because the two of you have a history together and I think scumVoxx would keep a townVaimes who wasn't scumreading him alive as long as possible because, if played correctly, he would defend you to the end or, if you flip he gets mislynched as a partner.
I could possibly see one of Shadow and Killjoy having a hand in selecting Vaimes as the N1 target, but I have kinda have townreads on both at the moment.
I disagree with the bolded text. Vaimes townreading Voxx, then flipping town is the second best thing that could happen to scumVoxx. Best was nk power role to boot. scumVoxx makes a killing with this play, and doesn't have to worry about Vaimes (a player of some experience I assume, and familiar with Voxx as well?) ever suspecting him.
If scumVoxx is real, claiming role blocked is a risk, but if it works, gives him a good chance to survive and do some damage. The payoff is more players rolling to his narrative, no longer seriously suspecting him at worst, and taking his opinions as gospel at best. If he solidifies even just two or three town reads on him, it works to buy him a few days/possible mislynches. It leaves him open to claim at a later date, and open to pushing fake news on the thread. While this is simply a theory of mine at this point, I want everyone to be aware of the possibilities and not fall prey to the gambit.
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I just don't see the benefit in doing any heavy lifting to change your opinion of me. Your read is wrong, and that's all there is to it. My play style doesn't match up with your expectations. I'm ok with it. Since that's a non-starter, I'm not going to say anything else about it.
I think your off on Jenna as well. While her posts are certainly cryptic at first glance, imo she's not spreading misinformation nor being especially evasive. I was frustrated by the posting style as well, but would scum really draw such negative attention? That's a hell of a gambit.
Speaking of gambits, I can't help but be suspicious of Voxx right now. He's perfectly suited to take a chance on a Hail Mary after banking town cred on the Vaimes read of him.
That's a post series that muddles the game as opposed to helping solve it. Town chases its tail trying to figure out how scum knows where the power is, we give Voxx more town cred as town power, but we don't actually gain any information.
This assumes scumVoxx is real, of course. That's something I want to hear opinions on.
Everyone. One of the best things scum had going for us last game was town's hesitance to communicate. The more people get engaged the easier it will be to find the people hiding things.
If Shadow is town (50/50 imo), I still have to think there's at least one scum on that wagon. It's too tempting to pass up, a potential page 1/2 lynch with hardly any interactions to backtrack and analyse. Vaimes=town, Osie=town, Dot=?, Jenna=?, Voxx=???.
If Shadow is scum, I still think there's probably a scum on there, for distancing and possible town crowd with a Shadow scum flip.
Talk to me about Dot, Jenna and Voxx.
But it still doesn't necessarily make Jenna town, just less mysterious.
This is my first time as town. I take it that it shows?🙃
I misspoke. I mean, what choice do I have though, I don't know Bear. Does that make sense?
I'm not taking Voxx's word for anything. I want to know what he thinks about meta reads in general, and what he has to say about the people I asked about.
Voxx is in the middle for me right now, but I don't need a townread on him to want to hear what he has to say.
I disagree with the bolded text. Vaimes townreading Voxx, then flipping town is the second best thing that could happen to scumVoxx. Best was nk power role to boot. scumVoxx makes a killing with this play, and doesn't have to worry about Vaimes (a player of some experience I assume, and familiar with Voxx as well?) ever suspecting him.