So Bur’s power feels too strong for scum, Cuth’s Vig claim hasn’t been countered and town should have a KP or some kind of Vit drain. Cuth has not been towny, but was that to stay under the radar and duck NK?
@Cuth How long does it take to charge up your shot?
i've said this many times
it takes 2 vit to remove 4 vit from someone
Sorry, I thought you had a way to generate Vit by picking the lynch, and started without enough Vit to shoot.
yes, i started with 2 vit and would gain one if we yeeted the person i picked at SoD
(incidentally, i forgot to submit this phase, but that's pretty immaterial atp)
Respectfully, why didn’t you do more to try and get your shot online? Who did you pick other than Boom and when?
So Bur’s power feels too strong for scum, Cuth’s Vig claim hasn’t been countered and town should have a KP or some kind of Vit drain. Cuth has not been towny, but was that to stay under the radar and duck NK?
@Cuth How long does it take to charge up your shot?
i've said this many times
it takes 2 vit to remove 4 vit from someone
Sorry, I thought you had a way to generate Vit by picking the lynch, and started without enough Vit to shoot.
So Bur’s power feels too strong for scum, Cuth’s Vig claim hasn’t been countered and town should have a KP or some kind of Vit drain. Cuth has not been towny, but was that to stay under the radar and duck NK?
@Cuth How long does it take to charge up your shot?
I don’t know about outed, but he’s wolfy, and has been all game.
Coy is putting it mildly, and it’s conveniently left you with no blood on your hands or hard stances on slots. Vote Cuth
What is this? Explain that second sentence to me
Name someone that you think Cuth thinks is scum. They’ve taken next to no stances, shown up to vote and given nothing for anyone to analyse. It’s left himself with an easy shrug of the shoulders and off to the next yeet.
I don’t know about outed, but he’s wolfy, and has been all game.
Coy is putting it mildly, and it’s conveniently left you with no blood on your hands or hard stances on slots. Vote Cuth
I will be here sporadically leading up to deadline, I’d like Az/Cuth, with Bur or Anak as distant thirds. I still think wisp should be an option, but that’s whatever.
Thank you for your opinion 18 hours to deadline on the world's slowest forum.
ok I regret the snark now
I don't really want to kill Az all that much, but it's felt inevitable for most of the Day. I'd rather CFD Boom or Anak.
Ok, I’m back and forth on Az. No offence @Az, pretty much from when he came in with his “solved the game” post from way back, my hackles have been up. But if you cut away the bull*****, the thought process posts look good, like someone working through the game. If he’s faking this it’s good. And if he’s faking the good, why does he keep purposely doing the bad? 2/3 of his post make me want to smash that vote button, but if I look at the third, I can bob my head along with it and see how he gets there.
Anak’s position has trended down for me. I don’t think you can be that confident on townAz, like what do you see that everyone else isn’t? So the Samwise Gamgee like devotion is just weird. Wouldn’t Az have told him to cool it down if they were aligned? But why would scumAnak fight the townAz lynch? Is Anak just pocketed? I feel like I’m chasing my tail and missing the forest for the trees.
Gun to head, Az feels scummier than Anak. Why do you think differently?
That only proves your ability, it doesn’t really move the needle on your alignment. You keep saying things that seem reasonable but when I think about them I can’t help but notice the other less charitable interpretations.
unvote Az
I need to think about this
That's correct. I wasn't trying to imply that it was a terribly useful data point, and as I said in my full claim, it's only half-true that it's even confirmable. But I make no assumptions about people trying to use doubt that I have the ability I claim as a point for a lynch, worse arguments (such as that the town should just give up on a 2nd lynch) are being made as we speak.
Kay, but you did imply that it was provable, and that we could delay lynching you to test something that wouldn’t even be confirmed one way or the other??
@HR @Sloth: The only other wagon besides Az's that has over 2 votes is Tubba. Would you prefer to eliminate Tubba as our second elimination or just eliminate no one with that second elimination?
We're at 24h before DL and unless we CFD someone, our wagons today are Az and Tubba.
Especially Sloth who wants Wisp out, voting Tubba off as the second elimination today should remove Wisp from the game OR expose him as liar (and if it comes to that, I'm not going to think twice about eliminating him tomorrow).
I may not have the mathematics right here, but if we kill two town today, wisp fails to elimate or is a liar, we kill wisp with vengeance in our hearts but still are in a terrible spot because we haven’t hit scum? Im not sure we can afford wisp at this stage. (Sorry wisp, wuv you.)
Also, in before another classic role analysis mislynch. How is it that towns never learn to avoid the same tragic pitfalls that they've been falling into for fifteen years? Yes, behavioral analysis takes more homework, but it's so much more accurate.
If you really doubt the provable claim, send LW or some other unclaimed town vig after me.
That only proves your ability, it doesn’t really move the needle on your alignment. You keep saying things that seem reasonable but when I think about them I can’t help but notice the other less charitable interpretations.
@Cuth: Sorry (argh, I hate this) if you made this clear earlier in your iso than I have time to check currently, but was your "if Boom dies I get something" only active yesterDay (for D2) and if he dies now you don't get the shiny you were hoping for?
it's also active today
the point was to force mafia's hands wrt deciding how to handle me, and also imply that it was only d2 a bit for the same reason
i think there were absolutely wolves in the bloc that was like "no let's just let sloth shoot please no need to yeet lol what is this cuth"
i'm not saying that's not a thing villagers couldn't think, but i'd say that specific reaction, as opposed to "i don't think boom is as wolfy as x" or "i just don't think this thing you're talking about is as important as the upside of yeeting both"
when i think it was pretty clear that boom had nothing going for him
but yes it's vit-based, so it's contingent on me actually having enough to activate this ability
and wisp drained one
or this would never have come up lol
vote:Sloth, vote: Tubba
vaimes, i've basically claimed my entire role between the qt and my posts at sod today
also i think all i was reading sloth v for was nai; i don't think i've seen things obviously wolfy in terms of process and engagement, but it feels slightly mechanical and i think things like him w-reading you (and, i'll be honest, most of his readslist yesterday) feel beyond just my baseline of regular sloth disagreement territory into "pushing a narrative view of the game via reads that i think makes us lose most of the time"
@azrael that's not my flavor, but i'm also not going to claim my specific flavor yet for the same reason i'm not claiming my exact ability yet
also i don't think your read is abstractly bad but i think it takes the quoted posts pretty far out of the context of my posting in this game
because if i said "i have pretty strong feelings but idk what" and then left it at that and just sort of softballed the rest of the game then it could absolutely be indicative of posturing/etc
but i'm pretty certain i followed that up by making several sets of reads that were in fact rather strongly couched
the idk what was more to do with world overlap/contingencies than "i actually don't know what to think about any of these people"
along the lines "if i get player x to a confident v read (vaimes/tammy in this case, i believe), then i can feel better about these subsequent subsets of reads"
so you quoting one of my first posts in thread that i essentially elaborated on pretty concretely not that long afterwards and then saying the lack of commitment compared to stated level of engagement means i am 100% a wolf is pretty silly
Fair enough that it doesn’t make you lockScum, but you really think you’ve put enough of your thoughts out there and backed them up? I know that you want(ed) to lynch Boom for raisins. And now you want to lunch Sloth and me, and I’m having a real hard time finding a precious post that mentions you’re thoughts on any of the three. So, it looks like you just want people to die, what I can’t understand is how limply and lazily you’ve been pursuing it.
Also no, that assumption was perfectly fine, it's a very strong assumption, an assumption that would almost guarantee Cuth town, if he decided to play the game
But here we are
It’s a fine starting off point maybe, or fine in conjunction with x, but as far as being a sole reason to town read?? **** outta here, it is not.
Why does HR’s ability if real as stated make you believe that Cuth’s role is real as stated? I don’t see the correlation.
Respectfully, why didn’t you do more to try and get your shot online? Who did you pick other than Boom and when?
Sorry, I thought you had a way to generate Vit by picking the lynch, and started without enough Vit to shoot.
@Cuth How long does it take to charge up your shot?
What do you mean by neighbourhood? Everybody who skilled you can talk to each other as well?
Name someone that you think Cuth thinks is scum. They’ve taken next to no stances, shown up to vote and given nothing for anyone to analyse. It’s left himself with an easy shrug of the shoulders and off to the next yeet.
I don’t know about outed, but he’s wolfy, and has been all game.
Coy is putting it mildly, and it’s conveniently left you with no blood on your hands or hard stances on slots.
Vote Cuth
Ok, I’m back and forth on Az. No offence @Az, pretty much from when he came in with his “solved the game” post from way back, my hackles have been up. But if you cut away the bull*****, the thought process posts look good, like someone working through the game. If he’s faking this it’s good. And if he’s faking the good, why does he keep purposely doing the bad? 2/3 of his post make me want to smash that vote button, but if I look at the third, I can bob my head along with it and see how he gets there.
Anak’s position has trended down for me. I don’t think you can be that confident on townAz, like what do you see that everyone else isn’t? So the Samwise Gamgee like devotion is just weird. Wouldn’t Az have told him to cool it down if they were aligned? But why would scumAnak fight the townAz lynch? Is Anak just pocketed? I feel like I’m chasing my tail and missing the forest for the trees.
Gun to head, Az feels scummier than Anak. Why do you think differently?
Kay, but you did imply that it was provable, and that we could delay lynching you to test something that wouldn’t even be confirmed one way or the other??
I may not have the mathematics right here, but if we kill two town today, wisp fails to elimate or is a liar, we kill wisp with vengeance in our hearts but still are in a terrible spot because we haven’t hit scum? Im not sure we can afford wisp at this stage. (Sorry wisp, wuv you.)
That only proves your ability, it doesn’t really move the needle on your alignment. You keep saying things that seem reasonable but when I think about them I can’t help but notice the other less charitable interpretations.
unvote Az
I need to think about this
Fair enough that it doesn’t make you lockScum, but you really think you’ve put enough of your thoughts out there and backed them up? I know that you want(ed) to lynch Boom for raisins. And now you want to lunch Sloth and me, and I’m having a real hard time finding a precious post that mentions you’re thoughts on any of the three. So, it looks like you just want people to die, what I can’t understand is how limply and lazily you’ve been pursuing it.
I simply cannot resist...
It’s a fine starting off point maybe, or fine in conjunction with x, but as far as being a sole reason to town read?? **** outta here, it is not.