I think sideboard would be a nice discussion here. The list below is the one Conley Woods came up in March:
SB: 2 Defense Grid (Maybe for control and combo?)
SB: 2 Echoing Truth (Against hate cards and most anything. I guess I always side one or two in every game 2, so I can answer almost any sideboard card that the opponent my have for me)
SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage (Dredge, Snapcaster Mage, Abzan Company)
SB: 2 Kiora's Dismissal (This one is the cherry on the top, a nice one for game 3 depending on what you saw game 2. I once had the joy to end of turn bounce my opponent's Stony Silence and Rest in Peace for the win. He thought he had it
SB: 1 Nihil Spellbomb (I think it's nice to remember that artifact sideboarded cards can be tutored for with Reshape)
SB: 1 Pithing Needle (From the top of my head, Liliana of the Veil, Relic of Progenitus, Scavenging Ooze and a lot of things from Robots or Affinity). Since we're talking Needle, remember that despite our opponents thinking that it might shut us down, it doesn't ("unless they're mana abilities" )
SB: 1 Pyrite Spellbomb (Alternate win condition, I guess it's good against Slaughter Games)
SB: 3 Silence I don't know
SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Disenchant Not sure of this one. Open the Vaults returns our opponent's stuff so...
Zac Elsik had a nice one too, so I'll mention 2 cards that I think that deserve a second look:
I kinda like your list. Just gonna replace thoughtcast with serum visions. But why only 2 blooms? It just seems so good to get with reshape?
Also i don't see any conjurer's baubles or elsewhere flasks in your list? Any reason for that?
I've tested Thoughtcast and Serum Visions. The card advantage from "cast" looks better for me by now.
I guess Conley (and some others) like to have only 2 blooms 'cause drawing a Lotus Bloom is bad. Also, you don't want blooms in your initial hand, you want to reshape for it.
Elsewhere Flask or Ichor Wellspring is a personal choice and demand further testing. Flask is better without a KCI and Wellspring is better with KCI out.
I will do further testing on Flask and Serum and keep you guys posted.
I've been testing Mulldrifter replacing Thoughtcast (or Serum Visions to that effect) and have been happy with the results. What do you guys think of it?
I'm now a big fan of this deck and currently building it.
Been goldfishing with it and it wins every freakin time on turn 3.
It's a little hard to play with it on cockatrice as most people ragequit you.
I've been following this thread for a while and gone trough a lot of versions on testing. The one I've been more happy with is the Conley Woods most recent one. Can't remember if I've ever seen it been discussed here. Anyway, what do you guys think of it?
What do you think of collecting some versions and updating the primer, so that people that are planning to pick up the deck could decide which version do they wanna go?
I think sideboard would be a nice discussion here. The list below is the one Conley Woods came up in March:
SB: 2 Defense Grid (Maybe for control and combo?)
SB: 2 Echoing Truth (Against hate cards and most anything. I guess I always side one or two in every game 2, so I can answer almost any sideboard card that the opponent my have for me)
SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage (Dredge, Snapcaster Mage, Abzan Company)
SB: 2 Kiora's Dismissal (This one is the cherry on the top, a nice one for game 3 depending on what you saw game 2. I once had the joy to end of turn bounce my opponent's Stony Silence and Rest in Peace for the win. He thought he had it
SB: 1 Nihil Spellbomb (I think it's nice to remember that artifact sideboarded cards can be tutored for with Reshape)
SB: 1 Pithing Needle (From the top of my head, Liliana of the Veil, Relic of Progenitus, Scavenging Ooze and a lot of things from Robots or Affinity). Since we're talking Needle, remember that despite our opponents thinking that it might shut us down, it doesn't ("unless they're mana abilities" )
SB: 1 Pyrite Spellbomb (Alternate win condition, I guess it's good against Slaughter Games)
SB: 3 Silence I don't know
SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Disenchant Not sure of this one. Open the Vaults returns our opponent's stuff so...
Zac Elsik had a nice one too, so I'll mention 2 cards that I think that deserve a second look:
Swan Song: A nice one to hold on our opponent's turn 2 (Stony Silence, Rest in Peace, Eidolon of the Great Revel)
Damping Matrix: It does a lot. Cursecatcher, Cranial Plating, Viscera Seer, Aether Vial and the list goes on.
I've tested Thoughtcast and Serum Visions. The card advantage from "cast" looks better for me by now.
I guess Conley (and some others) like to have only 2 blooms 'cause drawing a Lotus Bloom is bad. Also, you don't want blooms in your initial hand, you want to reshape for it.
I dislike Conjurer's Bauble 'cause I never want to draw my whole deck to combo. Codex Shredder is much better IMHO.
Elsewhere Flask or Ichor Wellspring is a personal choice and demand further testing. Flask is better without a KCI and Wellspring is better with KCI out.
I will do further testing on Flask and Serum and keep you guys posted.
1. Where's Aazadan?
2. Since a lot of things are mana abilities in our deck, does anyone here know what can and can't be responded to?
3. Tested Damping Matrix in the sideboard. It's awesome.
Looks like you were right
4 Worldspine Wurm
2 Borborygmos Enraged
4 Griselbrand
4 Goryo's Vengeance
4 Nourishing Shoal
4 Through the Breach
4 Faithless Looting
3 Serum Visions
2 Izzet Charm
3 Night's Whisper
2 Sleight of Hand
1 Taigam's Scheming
1 Noxious Revival
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Stomping Ground
1 Blood Crypt
1 Watery Grave
1 Steam Vents
3 Gemstone Mine
2 Blackcleave Cliffs
3 Polluted Delta
3 Bloodstained Mire
2 Pact of Negation
2 Pyroclasm
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 Duress
2 Painful Truths
1 Rending Volley
2 Sudden Shock
1 Shatterstorm
2 Echoing Truth
Mana base is like this 'cause he used to run Leyline of Sanctity, Abrupt Decay and Ancient Grudge on his sideboard
Been goldfishing with it and it wins every freakin time on turn 3.
It's a little hard to play with it on cockatrice as most people ragequit you.
I've been following this thread for a while and gone trough a lot of versions on testing. The one I've been more happy with is the Conley Woods most recent one. Can't remember if I've ever seen it been discussed here. Anyway, what do you guys think of it?
Conley's article and video
1 Banefire
Eggs
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
4 Terrarion
4 Ichor Wellspring
Ramp
4 Mox Opal
2 Lotus Bloom
1 Mind Stone
Engine
4 Krark-Clan Ironworks
Recursion
4 Faith's Reward
3 Open the Vaults
1 Codex Shredder
4 Reshape
4 Thoughtcast
Lands
3 Adarkar Wastes
1 Buried Ruin
4 Darksteel Citadel
3 Ghost Quarter
4 Island
1 Plains
2 Defense Grid
1 Disenchant
2 Echoing Truth
1 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Kiora's Dismissal
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Pithing Needle
1 Pyrite Spellbomb
3 Silence
1 Tormod's Crypt
I think there's the Emrakul, the Aeons Torn version, the Banefire, the Blue Sun's Zenith, the Herald of Kozilek and Sword of the Meek.
What do you think of collecting some versions and updating the primer, so that people that are planning to pick up the deck could decide which version do they wanna go?