Deathbringer Regent was amazing for me and helped me go 3-1. Wrath with a 5/6 flying body after people have blown removal? Seems good.
Had a Dromoka box, but my rares besides Dromoka's Command and a promo Arashin Foremost were out of color. With a Tranquil Cove and Silumgar's Monument I went Esper Bad Mana.
People are running enchantments like Glaring Aegis and bolster cards that benefit a single creature. Run Whisk Away and similar effects.
Walking into the story in the middle, I can make stuff up.
If the Naga are a cross between an ancient extinct cobra and humans, then when the Naga take over in the Khans timeline, they could "Suddenly Reclaim" an ancestral cobra. As the Sultai rulers they could make a golden artifact to resemble it. So the cobra in Sudden Reclamation could be the model for the statue in Altar of the Brood.
Moderator Action: Verbal Warning for Baseless Speculation:
Please don't just "make stuff up". Baseless speculation is specifically against the Storyline Subforum rules.
~kaburi
In the Silumgar timeline, I don't see why the Sudden Reclamation ever gets done and the Altar ever gets made, since the Naga go from being intermediaries between the Rakshasa and Tasigur to being intermediaries between the Rakshasa and Tasigur.
While the commentary points to a link, the story doesn't make sense (why would Silumgar allow the Altar of the Brood to ever be constructed) and the figure in Fate Forgotten does not resemble either the Sudden Reclamation creature or the Altar of the Brood statue.
Amusingly, there is an alternate art of Altar in "Ugin's Fate" that resembles neither the Sudden Reclamation cobra, nor the Fate Forgotten figure.
What am I missing?
To my eyes the snakes in Sudden Reclamation and Altar of the Brood are distinctively hooded, like a cobra. The creature in Fate Forgotten is not hooded and colored differently than the creatures in Sudden Reclamation and the statue in Altar of the Brood. It resembles Ugin's Construct to my eyes, except for the fangs, as previously pointed out. It is artifact colored and has fuzzy things that could easily be the legs. The card and the coloring of the creature point to it being an artifact. It may not be Ugin's Construct, but it differs from the Altar and the suddenly reclaimed snake in their most important feature and coloring.
But the two torches emitting blue flames present in both Altar of the Brood and Fate Forgotten but not in Sudden Reclamation and Ugin's Construct is what sets the two apart. I think the haze in Fate Forgotten is blocking the hood of the Snake - you can see the upper right side of the Snake's Hood, but not the bottom right since it was obscured by the haze, the left side is completely blocked off from our perspective of view.
My current stand is that Sudden Reclamation was the statue found by the Sultai 1,280 years ago, which they used to build Altar of the Brood. On Tarkir 1.0, the Altar flourished and continued to exist, but on Tarkir 1.1, it was forgotten. Ugin's Construct had nothing to do with the trio.
Sudden Reclamation is a card about resurrecting creatures with a picture of a green hooded snake that seems to be alive in water outside. It has a quote from a necromancer, not an artificier or a sculptor. Altar of the Brood is a gold covered statue that shows no signs of having been a living creature and is described as a statue. Yes, the statue is also hooded, but that does not make them the same. The statue is an artifact, not a creature, and obviously covered with gold.
Fate Forgotten is a card about exiling artifacts and enchantments. It has a creature that is gray, the color of Ugin's Construct (although the teeth are shaped differently, possibly due to artistic license), stone and metal. The outline of the creature's head is clear and the protrusions along the spine which would be obscured by the hood (and are obviously not part of the creature in Sudden Reclamation) are visible. It seems apparent to me that the creature is not hooded. They both have a pair of torches emitting blue smoke. The torches themselves are obviously different.
Why do you think the creature in Sudden Reclamation is a statue?
To my eyes the snakes in Sudden Reclamation and Altar of the Brood are distinctively hooded, like a cobra. The creature in Fate Forgotten is not hooded and colored differently than the creatures in Sudden Reclamation and the statue in Altar of the Brood. It resembles Ugin's Construct to my eyes, except for the fangs, as previously pointed out. It is artifact colored and has fuzzy things that could easily be the legs. The card and the coloring of the creature point to it being an artifact. It may not be Ugin's Construct, but it differs from the Altar and the suddenly reclaimed snake in their most important feature and coloring.
I added scale elite to my deck. Yes it is slow, but the tapping ability when you attack with counters is great. Dromoka's command will be an obvious add when dragon comes in. You can counter damage removal and then buff your heroic creature.
I am curious about your deck.
My current list has 18-19 land, so I can't imagine playing Elite Scaleguard there. Have you tried Dragonscale General or Citadel Siege?
From Khans, I've ended up running Seeker of the Way. It has way overperformed (sorry). Last Sunday, I threw my deck into a 4 round 2hg tournament online and it romped and stomped. It doesn't seem like people are running Hornets right now, which is good.
Yeah, there may be some interesting cards that we shouldn't talk about here until tomorrow, but Maplesmall has started a thread in the new card discussion where we can talk about them without incurring admin wrath.
That all makes total sense. I really like what you are doing with that list. My question is: is that list just better if you move Narset to the sideboard to play against control and put in two more Outpost Sieges?
Yeah. When I actually map it out, the GG is killer and if I add Caryatids, it's a creature deck. I just wonder whether Narset is worth it if I don't consistently hit on the +1. When I miss, she is just a much worse Outpost Siege, or another Living Guildpact. I don't really want to put Taigam's Scheming in a constructed deck . What am I missing?
I haven't constructed a decklist w/manabase, but I'm not talking about a typical big green creature list. I'm thinking four color, no B. Does Sarkhan have a fondness for Narset? I'm dreaming about Dragonlord Ojutai. I'm also thinking about Outpost Siege and Soulfire Grand Master. I've got Anger in the sideboard and I'm trying to figure out how to survive.
Had a Dromoka box, but my rares besides Dromoka's Command and a promo Arashin Foremost were out of color. With a Tranquil Cove and Silumgar's Monument I went Esper Bad Mana.
People are running enchantments like Glaring Aegis and bolster cards that benefit a single creature. Run Whisk Away and similar effects.
Another Dromoka Seeded pack had Dromoka's Command as the promo rare.
If the Naga are a cross between an ancient extinct cobra and humans, then when the Naga take over in the Khans timeline, they could "Suddenly Reclaim" an ancestral cobra. As the Sultai rulers they could make a golden artifact to resemble it. So the cobra in Sudden Reclamation could be the model for the statue in Altar of the Brood.
Moderator Action: Verbal Warning for Baseless Speculation:
Please don't just "make stuff up". Baseless speculation is specifically against the Storyline Subforum rules.
~kaburi
In the Silumgar timeline, I don't see why the Sudden Reclamation ever gets done and the Altar ever gets made, since the Naga go from being intermediaries between the Rakshasa and Tasigur to being intermediaries between the Rakshasa and Tasigur.
While the commentary points to a link, the story doesn't make sense (why would Silumgar allow the Altar of the Brood to ever be constructed) and the figure in Fate Forgotten does not resemble either the Sudden Reclamation creature or the Altar of the Brood statue.
Amusingly, there is an alternate art of Altar in "Ugin's Fate" that resembles neither the Sudden Reclamation cobra, nor the Fate Forgotten figure.
What am I missing?
Sudden Reclamation is a card about resurrecting creatures with a picture of a green hooded snake that seems to be alive in water outside. It has a quote from a necromancer, not an artificier or a sculptor.
Altar of the Brood is a gold covered statue that shows no signs of having been a living creature and is described as a statue. Yes, the statue is also hooded, but that does not make them the same. The statue is an artifact, not a creature, and obviously covered with gold.
Fate Forgotten is a card about exiling artifacts and enchantments. It has a creature that is gray, the color of Ugin's Construct (although the teeth are shaped differently, possibly due to artistic license), stone and metal. The outline of the creature's head is clear and the protrusions along the spine which would be obscured by the hood (and are obviously not part of the creature in Sudden Reclamation) are visible. It seems apparent to me that the creature is not hooded. They both have a pair of torches emitting blue smoke. The torches themselves are obviously different.
Why do you think the creature in Sudden Reclamation is a statue?
building on the Marang River similarity already noted:
Marang River Prowler -> Mystic of the Hidden Way/Marang River Skeleton
or maybe
Jeskai Infiltrator -> Mystic of the Hidden Way/Elusive Spellfist
Abzan Advantage, Temur Battle Rage, ?, ?, ? -> Clan Charm/Dragon Clan Command? not seeing it.
Map the Wastes -> Seek the Horizon/Explosive Vegetation?
Clan land Siege -> Clan Ascendancy/Echoes of the Kin Tree, Hedonist's Trove, Myth Realized, Dragon Tempest, Obscuring Aether?
Ugin's Construct -> Ugin's Nexus/Scion of Ugin
Is Whisperer of the Wilds -> Rattleclaw Mystic/Shaman of the Forgotten Ways a thing?
My current list has 18-19 land, so I can't imagine playing Elite Scaleguard there. Have you tried Dragonscale General or Citadel Siege?
From Khans, I've ended up running Seeker of the Way. It has way overperformed (sorry). Last Sunday, I threw my deck into a 4 round 2hg tournament online and it romped and stomped. It doesn't seem like people are running Hornets right now, which is good.
Yeah, there may be some interesting cards that we shouldn't talk about here until tomorrow, but Maplesmall has started a thread in the new card discussion where we can talk about them without incurring admin wrath.
0 Seeker of the Way
0 Soulfire Grand Master
4 Courser of Kruphix
0 Monastery Mentor
1 Dragonlord Ojutai
Spells
0 burn
0 counterspell
0 Treasure Cruise
2 Narset Transcendant
2 Ojutai's Command
4 Outpost Siege
1 Sarkhan Unbroken
0 token generation
2 Wild Slash
1 Flooded Strand
4 Forest
4 Frontier Bivouac
2 Island
2 Mountain
4 Mystic Monastery
1 Plains
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
0 Yavimaya Coast
4 Anger of the Gods
2 Atarka's Command
4 Dromoka's Command