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  • posted a message on Jeskai Midrange
    Samuel Poncher took a version of this to a 7-2 record at the Pro Tour!
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1459854#paper

    Per mtggoldfish, small sample size caveats applying, the archetype did well enough.
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/pro-tour-guilds-of-ravnica-by-the-numbers

    Edit: This version went 7-2 in a Magic Online PTQ on 11/10:
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1460353#paper

    Edit 2: This one went 5-0 on MTGO on 11/12:
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1462656#paper
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
  • posted a message on Pro Tour Guilds of Ravnica/Atlanta - Standard/Draft - 11/9-11
    Pro Tour Guilds of Ravnica is partly Standard. It will take place 11/9-11. Standard is awesome. Please, please, please keep being good and varied and evolving.

    Day 1 and 2 coverage will begin at 9:00am ET (6:00am PT) with draft. Five rounds of Standard will start somewhere around 1:30PM ET. These streams will be repeated upon completion.

    Day 3 coverage will begin with the top 8 playing Standard (best of 5 matches) at 9:00am ET (6:00am PT).

    Video on demand of the stream will be available for each round.

    Information for the event is here and here.

    Coverage for the event is here.

    You can discuss the event below. Please remain on topic. Off-topic posts will be marked as spam.

    Thanks!

    -- hoser2
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on Jeskai Midrange
    Quote from kysg »
    Quote from mo3mon3y »
    why isnt this deck still not represented aswell as boros so far i have yet to have mana issues.


    Because no-one was really interested in splashing blue to get teferi. Also most of those decks were setup to beat golgari. Deck tries to be the better of Boros/Selesnya angels variants. The question is, is it necessary to splash blue.
    Hmm. Confession time. I saw this deck among the MTGO 5-0s and I had the cards. It was the only Teferi deck I had seen with only two and I haven't felt the desire to pick up any more at current prices. It used some cards that seemed powerful: History, Rekindling Phoenix and Teferi.

    That said, in playing it, I have discovered some unexpected lines. The early pressure sets up Banefire finishes nicely. Teferi hasn't been a finisher as much as a value engine. The array of resilient attackers make decent blockers if needed to protect Teferi. The light touch of permission gives people pause. Further, nobody expects this, which gives significant benefits.

    I would say that the relevant question is, "Does this give me an enjoyable experience and the best win percentage against the expected field?"

    Two more different lists in the most recent deck dump:
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1449004#paper
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1449014#paper
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
  • posted a message on Jeskai Midrange
    Yeah, it's been surprisingly good. I took it out once more, going 3-1 with the bye. I beat Gruul dinosaurs and Gb Stompy, while losing to GW Tokens.

    I have had two games where I couldn't access U, one of which I would have been able to get U if there was an island to fetch from Assassin's Trophy. I even won one of the games in which I couldn't access U.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
  • posted a message on Jeskai Midrange
    So I saw this wacky list in one of the MTGO 5-0 decklist dumps. I had most of the cards and it looked fun, so I built it. I took it to Friday Standard. I went 4-1, beating Boros Aggro, GB Midrange, Gb Stompy and GW Tokens before losing to GW Tokens in the final. I figured it was a fluke, but I just took it out to Wednesday Standard and won out with a 3-0 against Jeskai Control, Jeskai Control and Izzet Spells. It looks clunky, but it plays as being inconsistent. Your opponents have no idea what you will play next, and neither do you. It's quite fun, and apparently pretty good.

    Here's my budgetized version:


    I based it on this. This is fairly similar. This and this are significantly different, but arguably similar.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
  • posted a message on GP Lille -- Standard -- 10/26-28
    Grand Prix Lille (and New Jersey) is Standard. They will take place 10/26-28.

    Day 1 coverage may start at around 5 AM ET (2 AM PT).

    Day 2 coverage will probably start at the same time.

    Coverage information for GP Lille is hopefully somewhere, but apparently wizards is better at hiding it than I am at finding it. According to this, there will be twitch coverage.
    Other information for GP Lille is here.

    Coverage for the event is here.

    You can discuss the event below. Please remain on topic. Off-topic posts will be marked as spam.

    Root for your fellow MTGS members!
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] The "I Need Help Deciding What To Play!" Thread.
    Quote from SpaciousBox »
    I am aware it's massively early to be taking about established Ravnica, but I am more interested in what people are presently exploring and how I might get involved in the brewing process. I've been out of standard for just over a year (perhaps a little longer) and am looking for a deck or archetype that isn't just the standard turn sideways, buff, and await kill spells. It would be nice to perhaps explore something combo related, or maybe a deck with a focus on lands? Something that's a bit cheeky I can turn up to FNM with and cause confusion.

    I've so far come across Izzet Wizards as a potential combo deck. But simply need advice on what exists, as I am very out of touch with standard! What happened to Saprolings? Did they make it?

    Thanks in advance.
    Saprolings was a fine FNM deck, I think. Not top tier, but competitive. Here is a deck you might like: https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/michaelflores-10232018-and-now-for-something-completely-different
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] The "I Need Help Deciding What To Play!" Thread.
    Quote from SpaciousBox »
    I am aware it's massively early to be taking about established Ravnica, but I am more interested in what people are presently exploring and how I might get involved in the brewing process. I've been out of standard for just over a year (perhaps a little longer) and am looking for a deck or archetype that isn't just the standard turn sideways, buff, and await kill spells. It would be nice to perhaps explore something combo related, or maybe a deck with a focus on lands? Something that's a bit cheeky I can turn up to FNM with and cause confusion.

    I've so far come across Izzet Wizards as a potential combo deck. But simply need advice on what exists, as I am very out of touch with standard! What happened to Saprolings? Did they make it?

    Thanks in advance.
    This isn't very timely, sorry. MTGGoldfish publishes many articles on what they call against-the-odds decks that might be up your alley.

    Quote from Poopsicle »
    Hi! I'm a modern player but want to get into standard. I have most of the shocklands and checklands without green. What would be a good deck if I like to play control or midrange?
    Here is a review of current Standard decks. Golgari is the current "best" midrange deck. Some are arguing that Jeskai Control is the best control deck, but Dimir and Esper both top8ed the last major tournament. Enjoy!
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on Need more options for standard Grixis
    I'm not sure whether you are interested in midrange or control. Here is the Grixis Midrange thread to look at and hopefully get specific help. Likewise, here is the Grixis Control thread. Fiery Cannonade is a card to consider if there are a lot of tokens in your meta.
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on Rate my mill deck
    Welcome! As pointed out above, there are cards in your deck that aren't in Standard (currently Ixalan, Rivals of Ixalan, Dominaria, M19 and Guilds of Ravnica). You have laid out the deck very nicely and should be able to convert it easily to use decktags (technically required, described here or mouse over the editor widgets and play with it). I am not sure whether to move this to casual or Modern, but I think you should get some decent feedback in Casual, so I will try that. - hoser2
    Posted in: Casual & Multiplayer Formats
  • posted a message on Boros Mentor Aggro (formerly Dub vs rage for Boros Aggro)
    Quote from Desu »
    Would limited value birds like rust wing or healers hawk be to slow or weak? having a bit of evasion is always nice. edit: also the witness.

    is the format still to killy for semi mid range buffing with auras? or do you guys feel mentoring once or twice before capping out is still value?
    Healer's Hawk is interesting. With evasion, after being mentored, it could be a threat.

    As for the auras, without hexproof, lots of card draw or other spells to protect it, it's generally a bad idea. Consider the card Ravenous Chupacabra. Maybe there is an experimental frenzy build that could make up for the card disadvantage, but it's hard. This is the only Standard deck that I've seen that gets away with auras and you can see that it has both card draw and spell protection. It is quite affordable and a good budget choice.
    Posted in: Budget (Standard)
  • posted a message on Boros Mentor Aggro (formerly Dub vs rage for Boros Aggro)
    This thread has evolved into a nice discussion of budget Boros Aggro, IMO. Is there a good reason for me not to retitle it and move it to the budget section? I'll do it if I don't hear otherwise soon. - hoser2
    Posted in: Budget (Standard)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] The "I Need Help Deciding What To Play!" Thread.
    Quote from M00S12 »
    mono white aggro vs RW aggro
    is there a huge difference in power?
    is it like "holy crap dude why the frick are you not playing red" or not that bad?
    The only information I have on the meta is MTGO 5-0 decks (listed here). These are chosen to provide variety, so the numbers for an archetype are not necessarily indicative of relative quality, but ... There is a mono-W list there, FWIW.
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on A very nooby booby question about elves and fire.
    Welcome!

    I imagine that you were being hyperbolic, but as long as you are curious rather than stubborn, I don't think you will seem like an "ass." Unfortunately, the game is so complex that almost everyone is likely to start out looking ignorant. The good thing is that we've all been there. I would say, just go there to learn, meet people and have fun. When you start to be the "newb" that beats them, some people may have difficulty with it, but hopefully by then you will have some solid connections with more sporting players.

    Questions:
    1a. Yes, 2 total mana*.
    1b. No. In general, for a 90% chance to cast a single colored spell (say unkicked Fight with Fire on turn 3, you would need 12 sources of R (brilliant article with math here, but skip the math and puzzle out the tables to start). A kicked Fight with Fire requires RR, which would need 14 sources on turn 7 (which is as far as the Karsten tables go). With 4 Llanowar Envoy, that is just 4 sources and only if your Llanowar Envoy survives.
    2. Yes, assuming that that each creature gets one point of damage.

    Technically these are rules questions, so I will move this thread to the rules subforum, but please don't take this as a criticism (Edit: someone else moved this before I could).

    * Llanowar Envoy is not an efficient source of fixing. In limited (sealed or draft) it can support a splash, but in constructed your opponents will mostly have much more efficient spells. Don't worry about it, as you have so much to learn and the greatest genius is to just dive in. Cards like Servant of the Conduit (rotating, so don't buy), Drover of the Mighty, Dragon Hoard and Evolving Wilds are better ways to support a splash. Best ways to support a splash are dual lands, which range from cheap (Timber Gorge) to expensive (Rootbound Crag).
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on GRN Sultai Midrange
    I see Lazav, Isareth, The Eldest Reborn and Muldrotha as forms of recursion. But at this point I don't know what is going to be powerful in the new meta and I want to explore cards that might be.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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