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Feb 7, 2014pauvro posted a message on Launch Giveaway!Myr Battlesphere is my favorite card. I run it in a Myr tribal deck and absolutely love it! The ability to utilize myrs to do direct damage after he attacks is useful. Thank you for running this give away, I would love to winPosted in: Announcements
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I just want to let you know that I have started testing this build with a rudimentary sideboard. I have faced one deck that wasn't too advanced but your version of the deck did play nicely. I drew a Consuming Aberation which was pretty good, won me the game. I'm unsure if Mind Grind is really worth it in this build, we don't really have ways to generate enough mana for it to be a blow out reliably but the fact that it pushes foward our win condition, mills for Lazav and Consuming abberation, the singleton might be passable. I will be testing more.
I wanted to let you know that I tested this deck out today and found it interesting, you may be onto something with this. I won the game I played and enjoyed the versatility of this deck...that said I wonder how well it can actually hold up. Have you tested this any?
I believe you may be on to something with this type of strategy. Something that can mill for 7 a turn is definitely a win condition on it's own, let alone if you have some other creatures around as well to do the job. Tell me, have you tested with this configuration you have posted?
I like your configuration here, I want to try it out for myself but could you elaborate on the sort of match ups you have had and how they have played out? Any more information into how this works for you would be greatly appreciated. How does Lazav end up working for you? I am intriqued by the idea of a hexproof source of 4 devotion for Phenax with the flexbility to turn into your opponents greatest threat. What role has he served in your strategy? Do you shy away from copying an opponents creature due to devotion requirements or is it not usually an issue?
Honestly I don't like Doorkeeper. He is only good if you have a lot of defenders out on the field, in situations where you don't have that luxury then he's useless, also, once you do get Phenax out his ability is a bit redundant. In playtesting I felt as if I'd rather have something else most of the time I had doorkeeper, it's cute but it's not effective enough to auto-include. With that being said if every since one of your creatures has defender, and you are going for a heavier creature build then perhaps that could accomadate him better. Try him yourself and see.
I played two different decks with these suggestions. I want this deck to work so badly but I'm not sure it can really hold up. I faced a R/G aggro deck and a W/B aggro deck and really couldn't do anything productive at all, I am starting to dislike the way this deck plays. I am considering reworking the entire deck from the ground up. I need something to take to gameday and really thought I could fine tune a Phenax deck to at least be competitive but if further testing and tweaking shows similar results I'm going to have to play something else
Thanks for your suggestion. Could you explain your reasoning a little. Are the jace and thassa to aid in digging for phenax? I like your suggestions though. Let's keep working on this archetype. Is anyone play testing this actively? I am and would like to compare notes
3 Phenax, God of Deception
4 Wall of Frost
3 Nightveil Specter
4 Omenspeaker
-=Spells=-
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Dissolve
2 Drown in Sorrow
4 Thoughtseize
2 Far // Away
3 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
2 Jace, Memory Adept
2 Jace, Architect of Thought
-=Land=-
4 Watery Grave
4 Temple of Deceit
7 Swamp
6 Island
2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
2 Negate
2 Drown in Sorrow
1 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
2 Dark Betrayal
3 Thoughtseize
1 Doom Blade
2 Notion Thief
2 Bile Blight
They aren't completely pointless as they do clog up the board a bit, but sometimes they can be a bit annoying as they don't do much without Phenax out. I think the correct build here is one that can put pressure on with non-defenders but also becomes something of a beast when Phenax comes out, my list is incomplete (as I don't have full sets of certain cards yet) but would anyone care to help me with possible tweaks? I still need to test this out
4 Nightveil Specter
4 Omenspeaker
2 Wall of Frost
2 Mnemonic Wall
1 AEtherling
1 Lord of the Void
2 Phenax, God of Deception
3 Thoughtseize
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Bile Blight
1 Doom Blade
4 Psychic Strike
3 Far // Away
1 Psychic Intrusion
4 Temple of Deceit
4 Watery Grave
11 Swamp
5 Island
I have a whole playset of Bile Blight and almost a whole playset of Drown in Sorrow in my collection so I could utilize those. I was thinking that drown in sorrow wouldn't be a bad card to have as it won't kill anything I own. On top of that if we have enough high toughness creatures, aggro may try to over extend to compensate and deal with Ashiok so drown in sorrow could be pretty effective. Let's keep discussing I want to bring this archetype to game day as well and want to make sure it's as tuned as we can get it.