MTG Salvation

Quote from Maximum_Intelligence

It really depends, honestly.

I won't run any auras outside of a voltron deck or outside using one for a combo, a la Splinter Twin and Pestermite

Ditto, the only ones I run are in an Uril deck, and very seldomly ones that I specifically want to attach to a general.

Quote from Titancross

Lets just ban everything but craw wurm. That'd be fun.

How would you cast it? You banned basic lands, remember?

Quote from Uranium

I play Ghave but honestly my general could be Karador. My deck is heavy sac/reanimator/stax, not tokens. However, my turns still take pretty long late game, and I've had multiple people complain about it.

Why do I play Ghave instead of Karador? Because Karador doesn't draw 10 cards with Skullclamp

Depends on the build. My Karador deck is good friends with Skullclamp.

Quote from Genghis Tron

4 card combo and they wanted Rooftop Storm banned? If you went through all those hoops I think'd you deserve the win.

Out of curiosity is there anything else that's House Banned in your group (whoever it was that I originally commented to) ?

I didn't think players would scoop just because he could cast his general for free (although if so, OP should play Rhys for an instawin), so I assumed they were afraid of the Rooftop Storm combo.

Quote from Jivanmukta

Exactly, criticism of the ban list is not meant to be taken as "The RC are a bunch of stupid meanies". But there is obvious room for improving the list.

No, apparently people will just say that if they think it.

Quote from bobthefunny

Castle lost the non-attacking clause ages ago, you're good to go!

You also have Builder's Blessing, because Castle needed a functional reprint. You know, in case you wanted 8 in a deck.

Well that's embarrassing, especially since I built a Doran deck a couple of years ago and thought Castle didn't have the errata. Good to know, since I'm rebuilding it. Never knew about the functional reprint. Thanks for that.

Quote from trancekat

I'm not sure I follow. Without vigilance, it's still good. I pump my critter, then move to the attack step. Yes?

Ugh, yeah, I misread the card. That does make it better than I thought initially.

Quote from Bhaelfur

Any love for Sprouting Vines? It seems like it'd be perfect for Azusa, Lost but Seeking. It will always grab at least two basic lands at instant speed, often times more than that.

With the disclaimer that I never ran it in a deck that had ways to consistantly dump many lands into play at once, I don't really like it. I found that I always wanted to hold it until I could get 3-4 lands out of it, but every time I got the chance, it caused me to have to discard. YMMV though, and it's certainly worth trying out.

I agree with this completely. Thing is, most everyone on here is very invested in this format, and in Magic in general. Most of us probably think about it once a day on average (some a lot more). We love this game, and that's going to make us emotional about it.

I think there's a lot of good that can come from all these discussions, whether it be cards or strategies that people like/dislike, interpretations, or any other debatable topic. But as you and others said, toning down the vitriol is key.

Quote from Ted Elderhi

I know right? I love anything that is blue and has discard. Like Dismal Failure. Mmmm, sweet 2 for 1s.

Oh man, that card is awesome! Need a playset now, just to have some extras on hand.

Quote from trancekat

Unlikely Alliance

Came across this beauty and went "Wow! Doran loves you!"

Also a very political card. Save someone or their creature and make an ally.

For Doran, Castle is just better, and the deck doesn't really want multiple ways to do this effect, since you lose it when attacking (and tapped, but vigilance is king for his wall deck).

100% correct on the political aspect, but only half useful, again due to the not attacking restriction.

Quote from ShadowMage

I think the ban list and all it's discussion is a waste of time. Cards like emrakul, which become the main win condition, I can see being banned. It's colorless and goes in any deck. But conversely, people don't play answers and complain when they loose. It's a game there is going to be a winner and a loser. If you don't like it go play solitaire. Too much whining. Read an article on how to be a better magic player, change the cards in your deck, change your strategy!!! Keeps the game from getting stale. If my opponent always wins the same way, instead of complaining I'm gonna figure out the way to stop them.

It's more probable that if everybody was as active on the forums as we are, everyone would start running the same ten decks. It seems like for every new forum member that asks for help with an established deck, there's two that have and off the wall deck. The "noobs" are what keep edh fresh.

Quote from 1classydude

Remand is a fairly safe counterspell. You 'counter' maelstrom wanderer and draw a card, casting him again the next turn for his base cost. Or you can use it to interrupt a combo or prevent a craterhoof from ending the game.

I like the interaction that Remand has with MSW, but I hate the idea of not actually countering a spell, merely making them wait another turn to cast it. The extra card is nice though. Dunno, if I can find one I'll probably give it a whirl.

Sheldon, that's a very good deckbuilding mantra, and I would love to see it plainly reflected on the official site.

P-Funk, thank you for providing your definition of a casual player. If this is the generally accepted definition that the RC uses, could it be clearly defined on the site too (along with your definition of social game)?

Ogre, the only concern I'd have with additional format changes is what changes to make? You can't change the way the cards interact within the EDH structure (like Serra Ascendent) because unless Wizards takes control of the format, you can't errata the cards. I like the idea of fixing the format to unban cards, but while it sounds good in the general sense, in practicality I don't think it would work. I'm finding this out in this own thread with a lot of the good replies.

Around 10-15 turns for me, if the game is still progressing, as previously stated. My introduction to EDH came during a deployment where we had nothing but time on our hands, and a five hour game was a fun way to unwind. So I'm a little biased in that sense.