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  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from liquid_water
    No you're actually completely incorrect in the matter. Read the card again. Then do it about 86 more times because you're not reading the card.
    What a troll response. Typical LW.

    Anyway, do you really think having to nuke a plains if the mono white player is stuck on 4 lands is OK? I would guess yes, because you don't care about the game being social.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from NGW
    Seeing as Hermit Druid is still around in this format when things like Sundering Titan get banned for no real good reason? Yeah...
    Another example of people who do not understand the EDH ban list, big shocker. You cannot stop people from being tools, or playing combo. Sundering Titan in NOT a may ability, so it is nuking 10 lands anytime it hits. If there are 2 plains out, and the guy is mana screwed anyway, you MUST hit him. That does not make for fun game play.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from NGW
    Which is a damned shame, thing will never get banned, regardless of how busted it is, because he's one out of x number of people that actually have a semi-legit use for the card and he wants to keep it in his deck.
    So you are saying Sheldon keeps cards off the list so he can use them despite how bad they are for the format. You need more tinfoil in that hat.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on [SCD] Iona, Shield of Emeria
    Quote from Hammer
    As for your point about being prepared, I do agree with a lot of this. However, as a mono red mage, what am I supposed to do except pray I draw my duplicant/helvault whatever?
    I bet you are just fine with Boil though, right?
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from liquid_water
    I can compare them to tooth and nail. For one, mana cost is irrelevant in this format since everyone and their dog is ramping to turn 5 tooth and nails. I'll give you that it's instant. Tooth and nail is literally cast and assemble combo in one step.

    Combo players are still gonna combo, you can't stop that, the only thing the banlist can stop is the stupid stuff like GB.
    9 mana sorceries VS 4 mana instant, and you say mana cost is irrelevant? That is a total fallacy and you know it.

    Explain why GB is "stupid" but Gifts is fine? You have to pay to get card draw with GB, and its not even a tutor. I think GB is busted , but so is Gifts, explain why I am wrong.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
  • posted a message on [[Official]] General Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from liquid_water
    Moving right along, I say we unban gifts ungiven because it has legitimate uses just like tooth and nail and hermit druid. Just like those two cards, you can choose whether to go combo or not to go combo. Yeah I know you can tutor a combo and two recursion pieces blah blah blah. Tooth and hermit do the same thing and they're legal so that argument is trolololol.


    Gifts is a 4 mana instant that can get any type of card.

    T/N is a 9 mana sorcery entwined and can only get creatures.

    That is the big difference, so trolololol all you want, it is correct.
    Posted in: Commander Rules Discussion Forum
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