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Quote from AylaTheCat »

Wanting us to self police does way more harm than good. Ban cards that you think don’t belong in the format, don’t say they’re mean and contribute to group infighting.

I strongly disagree: Adults should be able to self-police, and it keeps the ban list short. He is allowed an opinion on what he does not like to see without just making everyone do so with a ban.

Are they winning with the first ability, or the second?

I also like surprises that make board wipes one sided : Make a Stand and friends

As with most Commander centric decks KILL IT. Make it cost 20 mana, get others to notice, and have them KILL IT.

It they are packed with counterspells, they dont have good cards of their own to double ETB. Stop putting down ETB bombs. Board wipe and spot remove key pieces.

Yes its a good Commander, no it won't get banned. Take some of the advise here and adapt.

Skyship Weatherlight
Kuldotha Forgemaster

Quote from Cereberus632 »

You see no issue with that statement and the ideology of someone who would genuine believe that and try to push that as the way someone should play EDH?

I don't see that as an issue, because I honestly don't think that is what is being said. I think you have misinterpreted what other people are saying, because your point may not be clear to them. It certainly wasnt to me.

I don't think people are playing Bribery to punish you, I think they are playing it because its a low cost way to get out a huge creature. I think they are justifying that saying you should be able to answer threats you have in your deck, because it seemed like you were saying they shouldn't get your cool thing for less than what is costs mana-wise.

So whats your position on reanimate or the like on cards you have?

I don't think you should play any card you would not want played against you. Why do you feel good cards you like to play should not come out against you?

If I am mistaken in your position, please let me know.

I misread where he vialed in. Sorry

Quote from WizardMN »

In your scenario, each will end up with one counter.

Wait, if Champion is already on the BF, his ability and Lt's will both add a counter, right?

Quote from Frances the Bard »

How much total damage can you deal by kicking a Rite of Replication targeting an Omnath, Locus of the Roil?

I believe your confusion stems from something like Rite kicked on Kokusho, the Evening Star or similar. The triggers still happen, but as was stated, they do not resolve until after the SBAs move any legends to the graveyard. For Koku this does not matter, they do not rely on permanents on the battlefield. New Omnath does.

Quote from Red Foil Fencer »

Commander is aimed at the majority of players that don't engage with LGSs or organized play. That's who the banlist is set up for.

We are misaligned on what target audience means here. Yes the RC has a strong focus on kitchen-table style games, but they know those people can regulate themselves if there is an issue. The ban list is the best starting point for those groups, and the best place for people who don't belong to such a group to focus on.

People playing at a shop or GP with random folks have a place to build from. Of course a rule 0 discussion could be had, but the ban list preempts that unless purposely engaged. I meant 'target audience' as those who get the most from it. You mean who the RC builds rules for.

So what would change in the ban list, for your ideal state, if the target audience was LGS players?

Correct. You must do at least lethal damage to each blocker before doing any to the next. Assign as much as you want to the first etc.

Oloro effectively has eminence. He was/is pretty bad for the format. And Edgar can be

Quote from Gabryz »

Ok, so my friend trick me ... thank you for your clarification!

It may also be they did not know this either. Show them this page, so they too understand the rules.